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[DnD] Let's Cast Magic Missile!
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Old Nov 29, 2009, 02:24 AM Local time: Nov 29, 2009, 02:24 AM #3326 of 4001
Oh for the love of Wilbur

Fuck it, I'm going to open the brick

because I'm just that awesome

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Nov 29, 2009, 02:26 AM Local time: Nov 29, 2009, 03:26 PM #3327 of 4001
Uh, Skex, you seem to really have an issue with walls.
There is a solid wall between yourself at X-3 and the door I believe you are indicating. That door, in the closed position, is supposed to border X-3 and W-3, not X-4 and X-3.

This is not to say that your blatant disregard for walls is not amusing, its just you aren't using it to its fullest extent. I'm sure there is plenty of room for slapstick in your narrative...
I don't think Skexis didn't make a mistake this time. Here's an earlier map.



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Old Nov 29, 2009, 02:35 AM 2 #3328 of 4001
Oh for the love of Wilbur

Fuck it, I'm going to open the brick

because I'm just that awesome


Also look harder Zerg. A wall clearly impedes the progress of Gheth's hand to the doorknob, even in the image you link. Shadows do not magically dissolve stone or make them immaterial.

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Old Nov 29, 2009, 02:38 AM Local time: Nov 29, 2009, 03:38 PM #3329 of 4001
It's .... it's not very clear!

Well, Pang hasn't posted yet, so he'd be able to edit the post. Might I suggest a tactical retreat to either my position, or to the door at AB-1.5? If I'm not mistaken, it should lead to a room that takes you to the other bridge at the southeast fort.

Though I'm sure the south bridge is safer. The troll will never go near that burning log since he's afraid of fire!

Will you be able to drag Gordok along with you? If that would trigger an AoO then better not.

Actually, what triggers an Opportunity Attack? The PHB says, moving away from a square threatened by an opponent, and explicitly lists crawling, walking, and running away as movement that invite melee attacks of opportunity. Shifting explicitly prevents that. How about other movements such as sliding, pulling, pushing, jumping away, and teleporting?

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Old Nov 29, 2009, 02:41 AM Local time: Nov 29, 2009, 02:41 AM #3330 of 4001
I think I have figured out what I'm going to do now.

I feel like we're missing something, though. Helga and the gang must have had some kind of negative reinforcement device somewhere around here. They can't just expect the troll to behave based on chains alone.

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While I'm here and thinking about it, is it possible to aim for a certain part of an enemy's body in exchange for higher DC?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Nov 29, 2009, 08:25 AM Local time: Nov 29, 2009, 09:25 PM #3331 of 4001
Also look harder Zerg. A wall clearly impedes the progress of Gheth's hand to the doorknob, even in the image you link. Shadows do not magically dissolve stone or make them immaterial.
You are right of course, but so that I can salvage a bit of my dignity, let the record show that Pang himself thought there was a connective door!

Zerg, let me make sure I understand your post.

You shift to V-5 as a reaction. Okay, fine. Then you fire off a Careful Attack at Helga.



Sure. Then you sprint over to AB-1, where your molecules merge with Garrmondo's as you occupy the same space. While the fusion is occurring, you attack Helga again in an unspecified manner. You already attacked during this turn, so you spend an action point. Then you take an AoO from Helga for using your bow at melee range.

THEN you run back to the bridge, necessitating that you pass by Ortak (having somehow avoided it on the way to your date with Garr) and take another AoO. Additionally, having already moved and attacked this turn, you spend another AP in order to perform this second move.

Is this correct? I don't want to move ahead if I'm misunderstanding you.
Also, if Glock can scan the troll, it'd be really great

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Old Nov 29, 2009, 01:34 PM #3332 of 4001
Yeah, there's a door there. No denying that. It's a open door that led from W-4 to X-4 — despite being open, it was still an obstacle. Open doors do not cease to exist. I'm not sure how I can make closed doors vs open doors alongside a wall more visually distinct. :/

I'll put an icon primer on the wiki and link to it in the OP, the OP is crowded enough without another two dozen images.

Originally Posted by Zergrinch
How about other movements such as sliding, pulling, pushing, jumping away, and teleporting?
Pushing, pulling and sliding are all "forced movement" and do not trigger AoOs. Teleporting does not trigger AoOs. Jumps are part of a normal move action, therefore they would trigger an AoO if a normal move would.

Originally Posted by Skexis
is it possible to aim for a certain part of an enemy's body in exchange for higher DC?
Not really. Anatomy per se is almost entirely a function of flavor these days, which is why you can sneak attack an ooze, set a stone golem on fire, and tackle a ghost. I could implement a called-shot system on my own but then we'd just have monsters shooting you in the brain for instant death all the damned time.

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Old Nov 30, 2009, 11:46 PM 7 #3333 of 4001


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Old Dec 1, 2009, 06:54 PM Local time: Dec 2, 2009, 07:54 AM #3334 of 4001
Oh God. Three damage rolls with natural 1s. In a row.

Anyway, I'm posting here to confirm whether I have line of sight from AB1 to the troll. If I'm interpreting the rules correctly, I'm supposed to draw a line from any corner in my square, to all four corners occupied by Gorg. And if any one is impeded, he has cover. And if all four are impeded, he has superior cover. Correct?



If the enemy occupies more than 1 square (like Gorg), can I choose any square I like? Or does it have to be a square that is closest to me? For example, Gorg is now located at Y-8 to Z-7. Can I choose to draw to Z-8, or must I use Z-7? (This probably isn't applicable in this situation, but I thought I'd ask anyway.)

Edit: Oh forum dice, why hast thou gone against us this round? Don't make Cal as useless as Motsognir was ;___;

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Old Dec 2, 2009, 01:54 AM 2 #3335 of 4001
Anyway, I'm posting here to confirm whether I have line of sight from AB1 to the troll.
Yup


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If I'm interpreting the rules correctly, I'm supposed to draw a line from any corner in my square, to all four corners occupied by Gorg. And if any one is impeded, he has cover. And if all four are impeded, he has superior cover. Correct?
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If the enemy occupies more than 1 square (like Gorg), can I choose any square I like?
Usually

We have two bards

We don't need three

PS Acer your curse only triggers when you use warlock attacks, not on your druid stuff

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Old Dec 2, 2009, 07:17 AM #3336 of 4001
Oh.... well damn I guess I'll have to keep that in mind from now on.

Guess I really did merely shove the troll then. 6 total damage instead of 11.

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Old Dec 2, 2009, 08:39 AM Local time: Dec 2, 2009, 09:39 PM #3337 of 4001
We have two bards

We don't need three
But... but but but writing bad poetry is so much fun

________


So, 220 HP monster. Which regenerates 10 HP per round unless harmed by fire or acid.

...

Man, this has been one crazy encounter. We've fought the following:
  1. 1 Cave Troll @ 220 HP (what's a Grimmerzhul?)
  2. 1 Duergar Theurge @ 64 HP
  3. 4 Duergar Guards @ 58 HP
  4. 2 Duergar Scouts @ 50 HP
  5. 2 Arbalests
  6. Subtract a level 3 orc leader improvised club, I guess
What level encounter would you consider this (admittedly with a delay mechanism) lineup to be?

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Old Dec 3, 2009, 07:13 AM Local time: Dec 3, 2009, 01:13 PM #3338 of 4001
It's going to take you guys until Easter to kill that thing. You should try to collapse the tower on it's head or something. It'd be quicker to dig out the bricks than try to whittle down all those hitpoints.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Dec 3, 2009, 07:14 AM Local time: Dec 3, 2009, 08:14 PM #3339 of 4001
Nah, if we can get 2 days per round, we should be done before Christmas. Pssst, Acerrrrr...


By the way, Shin's post just reminded me that the Horned Hold has many many many windows. Acer, just use your encounter power to shove Gorg out of the big picturesque window which he is totally backed up against!


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Old Dec 3, 2009, 08:28 AM #3340 of 4001
What level encounter would you consider this (admittedly with a delay mechanism) lineup to be?
Strictly speaking I've used up the XP budget for a 10th-level combat here, but considering half the combatants were wiped out before they could so much as say boo I think that was mitigated quite a bit.

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Old Dec 3, 2009, 09:56 AM Local time: Dec 3, 2009, 08:56 AM #3341 of 4001
The difference between "Easter" and "this Friday" rests solely on the time budgeting decisions of our bro Acer.

I was speaking idiomatically.
Old Dec 3, 2009, 10:56 AM #3342 of 4001
Well we had like three or five strategies going on in the background and I didn't want to be the one to mess it up. Plus I wasn't able to get in contact with my consultant.

But yeah, I hear you guys.

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Old Dec 3, 2009, 11:00 AM Local time: Dec 4, 2009, 12:00 AM #3343 of 4001
Five strategies?

I thought I was the one who had it bad with all the kooky plans.

We should talk moar. Google Wave, perhaps? So long as ol' Pangy ain't in on the plotting


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Old Dec 3, 2009, 11:02 AM #3344 of 4001
Actually I was kind of referring to you in that sense. =I

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Old Dec 3, 2009, 11:34 AM #3345 of 4001
So long as ol' Pangy ain't in on the plotting
I was actually kind of hoping you guys would get a secret clubhouse so as to plot behind my back. 'course, the secrecy inevitably falls apart when somebody has to ask me how the rules work

You might be able to just make a separate thread for player-only discussion, really. Threadban me and User 0 and you're set. Dunno if it's really worth the trouble though.

VVV Pretty sure threadbans need a Supermod or better, but as it happens—

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Old Dec 3, 2009, 12:20 PM Local time: Dec 3, 2009, 11:20 AM #3346 of 4001
There's probably enough of us who have a general idea of how the rules work for it to be feasible. I also don't mind looking things up for people if they have a question. And if we're not sure about a house rule, someone can just ask Pang about it as generally and unhelpfully as they can. Or we can just ask him about random unrelated rules to keep him guessing.

A thread here would probably work better than a google Wave. it's simpler and doesn't require any new players to go about signing up for things they don't want or need. I could set it up, but I'm not sure how the whole threadban thing works, so if i have time to fiddle around tonight i might try it.

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Old Dec 3, 2009, 02:00 PM Local time: Dec 3, 2009, 08:00 PM #3347 of 4001
I made a thread for player planning, but I need Pang to post in it once to threadban him and only an admin can ban guests from a thread as far as I know.

I probably can do it actually but I've no idea how. I've only been a mod for about three years, you can't expect me to have worked it all out yet.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 4, 2009, 11:09 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2009, 12:09 AM #3348 of 4001
Pang, I'd like to clear up something. Would my act of igniting my arrows to form improvised fire arrows count as part of the standard attack action (draw from quiver, expose to flame, load on longbow, fire), or would you count it as a minor action? I want to make sure I don't exceed my allotted actions quota when executing our secret plans.

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Old Dec 4, 2009, 07:36 PM #3349 of 4001
I'm just counting it as part of your reload action (which, as a longbow user, is free).

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Old Dec 5, 2009, 01:08 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2009, 12:08 AM #3350 of 4001
Acer I'm gonna take your turn if you haven't taken it by the time I wake the fuck up tomorrow morning.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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