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FINALLY! Gonzales to RESIGN today.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 07:47 AM Local time: Aug 27, 2007, 05:47 AM #1 of 24
FINALLY! Gonzales to RESIGN today.

Gonzales departure won't end probes - Yahoo! News

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WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' resignation Monday after months of draining controversy drew expressions of relief from Republicans and a vow from Democrats to pursue their investigation into fired federal prosecutors.

President Bush, Gonzales' most dogged defender, told reporters he had accepted the resignation reluctantly. "His good name was dragged through the mud for political reasons," Bush said.

The president named Paul Clement, the solicitor general, as a temporary replacement. With less than 18 months remaining in office, there was no indication when Bush would name a successor — or how quickly or easily the Senate might confirm one.

"Better late than never," said Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, summing up the response of many in Washington.
Damm, its about time!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 07:51 AM Local time: Aug 27, 2007, 07:51 AM #2 of 24
God to resign from his position in the Bush White House:

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I don't know what the deal is with this guy. It's like talking to a dog, you know?


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Old Aug 27, 2007, 08:06 AM Local time: Aug 27, 2007, 08:06 AM #3 of 24
Aren't you going to feel silly when the guy replacing Gonzales turns out to be Michael Chertoff.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 08:58 AM #4 of 24
I'm surprised he didn't resign already, since he was such a favorite ragdoll for the dems.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 09:31 AM Local time: Aug 27, 2007, 08:31 AM #5 of 24
Aren't you going to feel silly when the guy replacing Gonzales turns out to be Michael Chertoff.
That's what I'm expecting too.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 02:28 PM #6 of 24
I would be interested in knowing what kind of blow back this might cause the Democrats who have hounded him, specifically in the Hispanic community at large. The Dems approval rating is already low, wonder if the Hispanic community will feel betrayed enough to pay them back. Gonzales was the nation's first Hispanic Attorney General.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 02:59 PM #7 of 24
I would be interested in knowing what kind of blow back this might cause the Democrats who have hounded him, specifically in the Hispanic community at large. The Dems approval rating is already low, wonder if the Hispanic community will feel betrayed enough to pay them back. Gonzales was the nation's first Hispanic Attorney General.
I really doubt it, since if there would be any hispanic blowback based on race alone, it would've happened when he first started getting negative attention.

Spics and beaners are smart enough to know that, even though the man was one of them, that he did some things that he deserved the bad credit for.

quite frankly I find your post offensive.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:24 PM #8 of 24
You find my post offensive, yet you use ethnic slurs in reference to Hispanics.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:29 PM 2 #9 of 24
Yeah, a goddamn racist redneck fuck finds the very idea that dirty illegals will have a strong negative opinion on Gonzales resigning while not having a strong negative opinion on the things that he has said and done is irresponsible and highly offensive.

You should meditate on this, porch monkey.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:46 PM #10 of 24
Still doesn't explain why you think a large group of hispanics/latinos would be upset at a guy getting fired/or resigning under pressure for being incompetent/corrupt/a liar. Oh but he's of their race, try again.
I never said they would, I merely wondered if they would, a sort of hypothetical question that wasn't meant to actually have a answer. Completely different. I even have the word "wonder" in my original post, and captured twice in a quote.

Yeah, a goddamn racist redneck fuck finds the very idea that dirty illegals will have a strong negative opinion on Gonzales resigning while not having a strong negative opinion on the things that he has said and done is irresponsible and highly offensive.

You should meditate on this, porch monkey.

I wasn't aware that all non-white's were illegal aliens. I'm terribly sorry for my misconception. Being called a porch monkey is highly amusing for many reasons, all of which you obviously don't have the necessary skills to understand, as it would seem. And furthermore, I will do no meditation because none in needed, but feel free to meditate all you want, it looks like you have some pent up anger that needs to be resolved.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:54 PM #11 of 24
I think it's really cute that you're affecting an intellectual and nuanced language while telling me that I am behaving in an over-the-top manner.

I'll try again.

None, or very few, hispanics are going to be offended that a man of his own free will has retired his post, when that man has been embroiled in controversy of his own doing. Merely suggesting that hispanics (and not other groups of people, such as short men or first-lawyers-in-their-families or loyal Bushies) would give Democrats (who had nothing to do with his resignation outside of giving him and many of his coworkers royal hell for said shady business) blowback for this is incredibly racist.

In short fuck you house nigger.

For the record, I checked his age before posting this. 1978, he's almost 30. thirty and he's posting shit like this.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:03 PM Local time: Aug 27, 2007, 04:03 PM #12 of 24
Yay. Seriously. Get rid of a liar and replace Gonzales with another liar of equal standing and supposed importance. Yay.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:03 PM #13 of 24
I think it's really cute that you're affecting an intellectual and nuanced language while telling me that I am behaving in an over-the-top manner.

I'll try again.

None, or very few, hispanics are going to be offended that a man of his own free will has retired his post, when that man has been embroiled in controversy of his own doing. Merely suggesting that hispanics (and not other groups of people, such as short men or first-lawyers-in-their-families or loyal Bushies) would give Democrats (who had nothing to do with his resignation outside of giving him and many of his coworkers royal hell for said shady business) blowback for this is incredibly racist.

In short fuck you house nigger.

For the record, I checked his age before posting this. 1978, he's almost 30. thirty and he's posting shit like this.
Wrong again, no matter how hard you try, you just won't make me give a fuck what you think of me, my opinions, or what I may wonder. Try again if you like, just don't expect satisfaction.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:07 PM #14 of 24
Shit son, from racism born of naïveté to "you don't know me" in the span of an hour and a half. That's a new record!

It's still true though. Even though he is the color of hispanics, you'll probably be hard pressed to find one who gives a shit who hadn't already given a shit. Will you be offended by my use of swear words again?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Aug 28, 2007, 12:22 AM Local time: Aug 28, 2007, 12:22 AM 1 #15 of 24
Wrong again, no matter how hard you try, you just won't make me give a fuck what you think of me, my opinions, or what I may wonder. Try again if you like, just don't expect satisfaction.
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Old Aug 28, 2007, 01:12 AM #16 of 24
Moved to Political, where the political types can clusterfuck this topic until they go blue in the fingers.

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Old Aug 28, 2007, 01:42 AM Local time: Aug 28, 2007, 01:42 AM #17 of 24
I think it's complete bullshit that Gonzales resigned over the most.....scandalous non-scandal in the history of recent politics. It's absolute bullshit on every account. Gonzales wasn't what I'd call a great attorney general, but he certainly wasn't a corrupt or bad one either.

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Old Aug 28, 2007, 03:17 AM 3 #18 of 24
I don't know, I am pretty uncomfortable with a man who has absolutely no memory of anything ever holding such a powerful position.

He probably won't even recall having resigned, so no worries there.

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Old Aug 28, 2007, 07:46 AM #19 of 24
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I think it's complete bullshit that Gonzales resigned over the most.....scandalous non-scandal in the history of recent politics. It's absolute bullshit on every account. Gonzales wasn't what I'd call a great attorney general, but he certainly wasn't a corrupt or bad one either.
First off, you've never fully acknowledged that the Justice Department was never intended to be a political department, which throws a giant wrench into your "US Attorneys serve at the whim of the President" logic. Second, you ignore the suspension of habeus corpus, his conduct while Ashcroft laid in the hospital, his continued refusal to respond to any questions on any government programs, and his complete lack of memory. The man is literally the worst attorney general to ever hold the office.

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Old Aug 28, 2007, 08:28 AM Local time: Aug 28, 2007, 08:28 AM #20 of 24
Oh I dunno about that. In recent history, Janet Reno was a pretty shitty (and unqualified) AG who even stamped down her clodhoppers when there wasn't terrorism to fall back on.

Also, on the bright side he at least didn't become a Supreme Court Justice.

How ya doing, buddy?

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Old Aug 28, 2007, 05:33 PM Local time: Aug 28, 2007, 05:33 PM #21 of 24
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First off, you've never fully acknowledged that the Justice Department was never intended to be a political department, which throws a giant wrench into your "US Attorneys serve at the whim of the President" logic.
A wrench which summarily gets melted into slag.

The very fact that --

1. The President is elected.
2. The President has the power to appoint the head of the Justice Department
3. The Senate (which is also elected) has the power to confirm the Attorney General
4. There is a two-party system in the United States in which each party subscribes to diametrically-opposed ideologies
5. These two parties continually vie for power by pandering to voters of various demographics

Means that the position of Attorney General is inherently political and the administration of such department cannot help but to be political. Fuck what it intended to be, we're talking about things the way they are. Don't like it? Leave.

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Second, you ignore the suspension of habeus corpus, his conduct while Ashcroft laid in the hospital, his continued refusal to respond to any questions on any government programs, and his complete lack of memory.
I don't ignore shit. All of the above can be argued until we're blue in the face, I simply don't see, Constitutionally or via federal law, where Gonzales did anything wrong. Don't like it? Kill yourself.

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The man is literally the worst attorney general to ever hold the office.
If by worst you mean.....one of the Top 20, then yes, I agree.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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