Teen Murderer Says Jail Is Too Hard, Appeals Sentence

Wow, that kid has some major issues he needs to address somehow. Although I doubt that any sort of prison sentence will help and I think that it might make him worse. He deserves some punishment though for what he did though because damn, that's a pretty horrible thing to do.

Thinking about it, I wonder why his parents/lawyers didn't try to get him institutionalized? Killing someone on an idle whim doesn't sound very sane to me, and his lack of remorse after he did it is the frosting on the cake.

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Originally Posted by Gechmir

Folks in prison are gonna have fun with him once he "graduates" from juvy.

Well... A prisoner didn't coin the phrase "more cushion for the pushin'" for nothing...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Encephalon

I think that at 15 you know the difference between right and wrong and I hate to say it but killing a man is kind of wrong.

Well, kinda what I was hinting at was that since in his mind he may have not known he was doing anything wrong isn't justified by his age per se, but a lack of mental capacity to process what he was doing wrong. In other words, there was possibly some psychosis going on.

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You have got to be kidding me....

I took one look at this nonsense and almost choked on my ice water. :aargh:

This pissant little ass sniffing penny-ante mouthbreather kills a guy, shows no remorse, gets off **LIGHT** by only going to juvy, then whines and appeals and squirms like a little bitch because "JAIL IS TOO HARD! I WANNA PLAY SOME NINTENDO! HE WAS JUST A HOBO! NOBODY WILL MISS HIM! I'LL DO GOOD NOW I PROMISE!"

Should've thought about that before you FUCKING KILLED A GUY SKIPPY. Little asshole needs to own up to what he did. I can't stand people like this. He's probably some ignorant over-priveledged twat who doesn't know what it's like to appreciate anything. It's not supposed to be freaking sunshine and lollipops and candy cane rainbows with juicy fruit unicorns wrapped in a pretty pink bow. He needs to learn people don't always have to bend over backwards to accomodate his needs. It's fucking JAIL. People go there to rot when they do evil terrible horrible heinous shit.

I'm with Devo. Make his sentence longer. Better yet, lock his monkey ass in the hardcore maximum security wing with the big boys. Then he'll see just how "hard" jail really is.

Uppity motherfucker.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Bolide

"no, not really" comment when asked if he felt remorse, that there is something wrong.

But atleast he was honest.

This story turned my stomach.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Dubble

You have got to be kidding me....

I took one look at this nonsense and almost choked on my ice water. :aargh:

This pissant little ass sniffing penny-ante mouthbreather kills a guy, shows no remorse, gets off **LIGHT** by only going to juvy, then whines and appeals and squirms like a little bitch because "JAIL IS TOO HARD! I WANNA PLAY SOME NINTENDO! HE WAS JUST A HOBO! NOBODY WILL MISS HIM! I'LL DO GOOD NOW I PROMISE!"

Should've thought about that before you FUCKING KILLED A GUY SKIPPY. Little asshole needs to own up to what he did. I can't stand people like this. He's probably some ignorant over-priveledged twat who doesn't know what it's like to appreciate anything. It's not supposed to be freaking sunshine and lollipops and candy cane rainbows with juicy fruit unicorns wrapped in a pretty pink bow. He needs to learn people don't always have to bend over backwards to accomodate his needs. It's fucking JAIL. People go there to rot when they do evil terrible horrible heinous shit.

I'm with Devo. Make his sentence longer. Better yet, lock his monkey ass in the hardcore maximum security wing with the big boys. Then he'll see just how "hard" jail really is.

Uppity motherfucker.

I was going to come in here and rage... but, uh.. yeah. I'm with this feller.

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I want justice just like anyone else here in this thread, I agree with the judge on his decision. HOWEVER, he needs to be rehabilitated and mentally learn what he's done. Death is absolute, and final...he needs to understand this, and must learn to value life and the people around him. Give him justice yes, but evil shit can't beget evil shit. We all can't lock away our 'problems' and just hope for the best.

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Originally Posted by Karasu

I want justice just like anyone else here in this thread, I agree with the judge on his decision. HOWEVER, he needs to be rehabilitated and mentally learn what he's done. Death is absolute, and final...he needs to understand this, and must learn to value life and the people around him. Give him justice yes, but evil shit can't beget evil shit. We all can't lock away our 'problems' and just hope for the best.

I don't know about you, but if at 15 you can't tell the difference between life and death, especially in the case of killing someone because you're bored and show no remorse, fuck rehab, it's time to hang the sign sociopath around his neck and tell him to lie in his bed, since he now made it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

You can basically boil all the arguments down to one simple phrase. It works, and there's very little in the way of a counter-argument that can effectively be made against it.

Prison isn't supposed to be nice.

It's called "a detterent". If you do that, you get this. As far as I can tell, it's working in this case. This young offender won't want to go back to prison, so he will have been deterred from re-offending.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I like how he'll be in prison during some pretty important years of his life. What kind of career opportunities are out there for a 37 year old who maybe got a GED in prison? Seems like it'd be best all around if he were to be quietly murdered sometime between now and release. It seems that we've basically already made the decision that the complete destruction of his life and future is just. Why not actually own up to it and not draw things out?

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Originally Posted by Avalokiteshvara

I like how he'll be in prison during some pretty important years of his life. What kind of career opportunities are out there for a 37 year old who maybe got a GED in prison? Seems like it'd be best all around if he were to be quietly murdered sometime between now and release. It seems that we've basically already made the decision that the complete destruction of his life and future is just. Why not actually own up to it and not draw things out?

He showed no remorse about the complete destruction of another life and future. The fact that this life belonged to someone who is not traditionally valued by society shouldn't take away from that fact. It's every bit as bad as if he killed the hot blond career woman in her late thirties.

He's still breathing. His life has not been destroyed. It has merely been limited in scope. That means that compared to his victim, he got off lightly. I don't support the death penalty, but I entirely support the notion of actions which have consequences.

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Originally Posted by Soluzar

Prison isn't supposed to be nice.

It's called "a detterent". If you do that, you get this. As far as I can tell, it's working in this case. This young offender won't want to go back to prison, so he will have been deterred from re-offending.

I can't help but wonder if he is going to resort to some other form of criminal activity when he is released though. As I mentioned before, it almost seems like there is some form of psychosis going on with his lack of being able to acknowledge the severity of what he did wrong by displaying no remorse.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I agree..the sentence is too hard. Because the gov't has to feed them and bath them and we have to pay the taxes to keep em there, etc etc. It's just a big mess. I think the death penalty is "easier"...could be messy but I am sure it would be easier to clean up in the end, and less taxes I have to pay for!

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Originally Posted by thesaint

I agree..the sentence is too hard. Because the gov't has to feed them and bath them and we have to pay the taxes to keep em there, etc etc. It's just a big mess. I think the death penalty is "easier"...could be messy but I am sure it would be easier to clean up in the end, and less taxes I have to pay for!

Actually, didn't some study prove it costs more to execute somebody than to keep them in prison for life? Given all the appeals and all that crap they always go through.

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Originally Posted by thesaint

I think the death penalty is "easier"...could be messy but I am sure it would be easier to clean up in the end, and less taxes I have to pay for!

Actually that's a misconception. In a lot of ways, the death penalty is more expensive than a life sentence so in all actuality, you're paying more taxes for those on death row than those on life imprisonment. Not to mention the death penalty is often not viewed as a deterrent to violent crimes to begin with. Check out these two sources for more info on that...

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Originally Posted by Bolide

Actually that's a misconception. In a lot of ways, the death penalty is more expensive than a life sentence so in all actuality, you're paying more taxes for those on death row than those on life imprisonment. Not to mention the death penalty is often not viewed as a deterrent to violent crimes to begin with. Check out these two sources for more info on that...

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The death penalty would sure as hell deter me lol. Actually, believe it or not, it is more expensive to keep them in prison, that people never consider. I love this topic....I did 6 years of Criminal Justice in college. If its one thing professors like to talk about, its the results of throwing everyone in prison. Some judges are jail happy, some aren't...but there are far too many that are. There are so many other options out there, but the most popular is still jail. The major problem with that (and what makes jail more expensive)? One word....."over-population". The prisons are over-populated, causing major issues in some states (i.e., NV). Over-population results in a higher costs. More programs to accomodate the higher # of prisoners, more guards, and research and actions that are needed to try to find a solution to what they will do with all these people. In NV, there are prisoners outside of cells, sleeping in portable beds laid in the hall. Security problem? They run out of cells all the time, so they are forced to come up with solutions like that.

What they should do is just start sending them all to the moon, and let the moon become one big butt-buddy farm! Might help solve world over-population as well

Jam it back in, in the dark.

"Not really, no,"

Wow, what a dumbass, his IQ must be breathtaking. I hope he fucking rots.

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What they should do is just start sending them all to the moon, and let the moon become one big butt-buddy farm! Might help solve world over-population as well

Wouldn't this cost a heck of a lot more money than what they're already spending now?

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Originally Posted by BigHairyFeet

Is this observation based on experience?

If by this you mean, "Have you killed a man?" then no, I have not. But I beat one within an inch of his life and I WAS arrested for it. I guess the experience is only a matter of degree.

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Originally Posted by Lene

Wouldn't this cost a heck of a lot more money than what they're already spending now?

We're talking about cost-cutting logistics here so we wouldn't be sending one at a time or anything. We'd be packin' the niggas in like sardines in a can and shooting them up to the cosmos by the hundreds.

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Originally Posted by Bolide

I can't help but wonder if he is going to resort to some other form of criminal activity when he is released though. As I mentioned before, it almost seems like there is some form of psychosis going on with his lack of being able to acknowledge the severity of what he did wrong by displaying no remorse.

I'll acknowledge that in this particular case, but in the case of sane inmates, it should generally be assumed that the unpleasant nature of a custodial sentence would help to deter them from re-offending.

If someone really isn't capable of comprehending the difference between legal and illegal acts, or if they don't understand the societal definition of right and wrong, then it's also going to be hard to deter them from crime. I'd agree with you on that point, but it can still be assumed that he won't want to return to jail. The question of whether his mental faculties are acute enough to allow him to avoid jail is another matter entirely.

I was speaking idiomatically.