Happiness is...

Originally Posted by Metaconsciou§

How can I possible account for everyone's unhappiness? In the end we are who we are, not what we are told. If what I say upsets, disgusts, irritates you, then by all means, execute your free will by ignoring it, or contesting it, as you already have.

You waste a lot of time typing up a bunch of hot air, sir.

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YES. Indeed they are MY distractions, not yours; I was not attempting to superimpose them over your own. I can only explain, describe, postulate from my own perspective. I can only speak from my own perspective, I was in no way trying to speak for you, or the greater whole, humanity. I earnestly believe there is worth in our ideals. I am not suggesting that we should go out of our way to be dissatisfied. NO, we should be happy, now, where we are, for what we have - but - there are problems and issues in this world, not just on the individual level. I speak in concern for all us, as a race. We have farther to go, more to accomplish, we have not yet reached the peak of our evolution.

You, sir, have spent an exorbitant amount of time in your philosophy class.

Life isn't about inner reflection, examining self-growth and consideration of human flaw. If you think thats what it's about, you damned well better wake up and move on. Sure, you're probably young and you have lots of time on your hands. Much like the Greeks back in their day.

The more you pine over your happiness, the more you consider it, analyze it, reflect upon it, the less SENSE it makes. The less it MEANS to you.

Go pick a fucking flower. Smell it, and then walk away. Do not think further on it.

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I am who I am. You are who you are.

Thanks for proving exactly what I said in my first post, Modified. -_-

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I am not play-acting here, I am not perfect. I am not where I would like to be yet, but I value my thoughts as well as my actions. And I appreciate others thoughts and actions as well, even yours, though you obviously disagree or misunderstand my position. We are all free to think and act as we please. I only wish to share my thoughts. Yes, in the end, it is what it is. However, not only through my actions, but through the sharing of my thoughts and speculations as well, I feel I find out a great deal more about who I am as well as who others are.

YEA, GEE. Way to say exactly what I said in about 4 times the length!

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

You waste a lot of time typing up a bunch of hot air, sir.

You, sir, have spent an exorbitant amount of time in your philosophy class.

Life isn't about inner reflection, examining self-growth and consideration of human flaw. If you think thats what it's about, you damned well better wake up and move on. Sure, you're probably young and you have lots of time on your hands. Much like the Greeks back in their day.

The more you pine over your happiness, the more you consider it, analyze it, reflect upon it, the less SENSE it makes. The less it MEANS to you.

Go pick a fucking flower. Smell it, and then walk away. Do not think further on it.

Thanks for proving exactly what I said in my first post, Modified. -_-

YEA, GEE. Way to say exactly what I said in about 4 times the length!

I am incredibly reflective, and I do sometimes think too much about certain things. We are quite different, you and I, but you make me smile. Not a smirk, or a sneer, a smile. I am not always one for brevity, I enjoy speaking my thoughts, letting my stream of consciousness flow out my mind and through my words.

Sorry for the verbal meanderings. >_>;

Edit: You remember who I was previous to the last crash, I'm flattered, I think. o.o Also, I frequently skipped my only philosphy class. Despite knowing and understanding the philosphies, I didn't bother to remember who said what and other such technicalities... I got a D+; I was too busy having fun. x_x;

How ya doing, buddy?

Either way you look at it happynes is an affect and a pirk in life that helps keep you going. Happyness is a pirk not something that will always be there. It doesn't just come to you you gotta get out and grab it. Even then it isn't always there. As long as you have faith in something good and actualy work toward it happyness will be there when needed. You don't have to be spiritual to have faith in something good to come. You do however have to go out and get it. Happyness doesn't come to those who sit and mope about it. Moping isn't a happy thing and contenuously moping keeps you from being happy.

Killing youself wont do it either cause now you are nothing(depending on what you believe) you are dead and can feel or think nothing. Now you've selfishly cause problems to your family who will have to pay for all the proceedings. So now you've taken the possability of happyness away from yourself and made others unhappy. Any who loved you will grieve over that fact and if it shows on tv it makes poeple like me angry. So now by trying to take away your miserable feelings you've caused a chain reaction of unhappyness. All Im sayin is happyness is there but for the most part you have to go out and catch it.
When ever your sad or miserable, instead of doing something stupid like killing yourself just because of it, go out and do something you find fun. If nothing is fun to you then thats your fault cause your human we all have some simple pleasure. Happyness is simple so stop complicating life and be happy.

"Just keep on keepin on and happyness will come. Maybe not for long but it will always come along."

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

The more you pine over your happiness, the more you consider it, analyze it, reflect upon it, the less SENSE it makes. The less it MEANS to you.

Why would it mean less to me to think and ponder over my happiness? I'm a little puzzled as to how this works because last I checked it wasn't a urinal cake... :/

I was speaking idiomatically.

I kinda know what sass is talking about. If you're happy there is no need for thought, but only to live in the moment of it, for however long that maybe.

Well I might not be right, but it is good advice(what sass said).

Now with sadness, you could do the opposite, cause the point is the get rid of it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Encephalon

Why would it mean less to me to think and ponder over my happiness? I'm a little puzzled as to how this works because last I checked it wasn't a urinal cake... :/

Not ponder over your own happiness, but happiness in general.

"What is happiness? Why am I happy? Where does happiness come from? What makes my measure of happiness different from others?"

You're overthinking when you start with that bullshit. Just BE HAPPY and get over the ideas behind it. Thinking about happiness only belittles it. I am saying you should just FEEL it and not THINK about where it comes from, why it exists, and compare it to other things.

But if you have to ask yourself if you're happy or not, you probably aren't. =p

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

But if you have to ask yourself if you're happy or not, you probably aren't. =p

Very true, I suppose. Still doesn't mean I'm actually asking myself if I'm happy or not. I think that philosophically overreaching for happiness IS the substitute that Metaconscious is talking about but, like you, I concur that it's kind of pointless to over-analyze that as opposed to enjoying the little things; you know...

Enjoying the air coming in through your sunroof as opposed to going on a road rage rampage. Saying "good morning, sunshine!" instead of "fucking sunshine, it's morning..."

I find comfort in these things as little as they seem.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Happiness is brilliant. That is all. You wish it could last forever.



It's also like a frog in a way, when you dissect it, it dies.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Encephalon

I think that philosophically overreaching for happiness IS the substitute that Metaconscious is talking about

Philosophically searching for happiness only brings dismay. Because there is no happiness without sadness, anger, yadda fucking yadda.

Philosophy likes to think it's useful. It's really not. More destructive than anything, if you ask me.

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but, like you, I concur that it's kind of pointless to over-analyze that as opposed to enjoying the little things; you know...

Little things that make you smile, yea. Life is full of them. Best to indulge in them, appreciate them, and value them. You may miss them someday.

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Enjoying the air coming in through your sunroof as opposed to going on a road rage rampage.

Road rage is INFINITELY better than enjoying a blazing sun. But ah. The ever-present conflict with the philosophy. What makes YOU happy may not make ME happy -s o why bother analyzing it. It's not that consequential.

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Saying "good morning, sunshine!" instead of "fucking sunshine, it's morning..."

Yea, no.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

Yea, no.

Well, it's an obvious romanticization, but you get the idea no?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Encephalon

Well, it's an obvious romanticization, but you get the idea no?

Of being a morning person? Not at fucking all.

(Yea, I know what you're saying. I just think philosophy in itself is fucking retarded - especially when you're trying to figure out what makes you happy, the origin of happiness, ultimate happiness, yadda fucking yadda. I hate assholes who overthink it. ;_; )

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