Nintendo Press Conference (discussion and live stream)

there are a couple people playing DS in the line, its a good place to wifi and make the line up more worth it

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Figured I'd post this hear just so you all are better informed.

http://media.revolution.ign.com/arti...93/vids_1.html

Matt Cassamassina: "What about the classic controller and the light zapper? Are these gonna be something sold seperately?"

Perrin Kaplan: "We have not made a final decision yet, I think that they will probably be sold seperately, in that, the nunchuka and the wiimote will be part of the pack-in."

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Free.User

Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but:



That's the Mario theme!

Good eye... I actually thought you were making an OMG THERE'S A SPEAKER IN THE WIIMOTE post but that was actually a pretty cool detail for them to put in that picture.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

BTW, anyone else realized that with dual Zappers, the analog stick allows for the player to control their character and two weapons, all independant of each other. Hell, you could even use the zapper for movement and shooting, and use a standard controller as a knife, sword or something else!

Greatest idea ever, Nintendo.

- WraithTwo -

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Dayvon

Figured I'd post this hear just so you all are better informed.

http://media.revolution.ign.com/arti...93/vids_1.html

Christ it hurt to watch that video. You could cut the sexual tension with a knife.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Yeah, but from that video you learn that there are still more secrets to the hardware that haven't been revealed which is great. I enjoyed the video. It was fun. =)

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

devilmaycry, you won't be seeing a lot of Wii titles supporting the cube controllers. A lot of the functions that the Wii controller and analog attachment provide won't be able to be recreated on a cube controller.

That sucks ass then, if they don't have the burden of developing the game in HD can't they take that extra time to do an alternate control scheme? 'Cause you know Wii games will cost as much as a 360/PS3 game (belive else and you are naive at best).

Originally Posted by Dayvon

Perrin Kaplan: "We have not made a final decision yet, I think that they will probably be sold seperately, in that, the nunchuka and the wiimote will be part of the pack-in."

Having in mind just how much a very simple RGB cable costed me and how much it used to cost at lauch, I can only wonder the cost of these add ons... IMHO 30£ for sure, the RGB cable costed 25£ during the first times.

Oh... I've just noticed the seller at Amazon.co.uk that selled RGB cables t 9.99£ has disapeared. Damn he must've went out of stock in blink! Thank god/alah/budha I got mine in time, now if only I could get that RE4 at 9.99£....:fishing:

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Can you please stop making retarded assumptions please?

The development using the Wii controller has been said to be fairly easy and since it's based off GameCube development kits it is very easy and cheap to develop on the Wii. The devkits cost less than even the PSP devkits.

Iwata has already stated that all Wii videogames from Nintendo will be at max $50. He said that for short, simple, budget games they may sell at $20 or $30 and/or be sold online via the virtual console for a low price. Third parties such as EA may up the price to $60 or $70 dollars like they have for 360 games because they're assholes but that remains to be seen.

As Perrin Kaplan said, they are still figuring out what to pack together when selling controllers. Right now it looks like the zapper and Virtual Console controller will be sold separately and the wiimote and nunchuck attachment will be sold together. Personally, I'd love to have them all bundled together if it didn't cost too much.

Nintendo is looking to sell these at low affordable prices so you can get the most enjoyment out of your system with friends and family. It's part of their crede for Wii that they want the system to be inclusive so I can't imagine them being very expensive. Whatever they come up with I'm sure will be good.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Haha nice, Kaplen actually made sure to include Australia when Matt asked about the Worldwide launch. <3

Originally Posted by devilmayheavensmile

'Cause you know Wii games will cost as much as a 360/PS3 game (belive else and you are naive at best).

Oh okay, you are obviously someone in the know. A Mr. Nintendo, even.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

The development using the Wii controller has been said to be fairly easy and since it's based off GameCube development kits it is very easy and cheap to develop on the Wii. The devkits cost less than even the PSP devkits.

In that sense PC game should all cost 10€ since DirectX SDK is free ... maybe MS charges for somekind of Visual Studio for games but DX is free (AFAIK ofcourse).

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Iwata has already stated that all Wii videogames from Nintendo will be at max $50.

Playing Nintendo 1st party games? :-S Just thinking of it makes me sick, the only 1st party game I have for Gamecube it's Eternal Darkness and it's not even true 1st party... Zelda Twilight Princess might be worth playing but I've played so many Zeldas that I dunno... maybe when the game gets to the 15€ mark.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

He said that for short, simple, budget games they may sell at $20 or $30 and/or be sold online via the virtual console for a low price.

In that huge 512Mb flash drive? BTW what will be the real available space after format? 500Mb probably... anyway I'm not looking forward to play games I can get for free on SourceForge.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Third parties such as EA may up the price to $60 or $70 dollars like they have for 360 games because they're assholes but that remains to be seen.

They may be assholes but they're rich and their games still sell, while we (or at least I) are still poor. :lolsign:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

As Perrin Kaplan said, they are still figuring out what to pack together when selling controllers. Right now it looks like the zapper and Virtual Console controller will be sold separately and the wiimote and nunchuck attachment will be sold together. Personally, I'd love to have them all bundled together if it didn't cost too much.

Do I need to mention again the price of the RGB cable? This one just cracks me up cause these cables cost 1€ to assemble. No they ain't selling these neat add-on for 50 euro cents.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Whatever they come up with I'm sure will be good.

Good would be an alternative control scheme using a regular pad in every game, that would great not just good.

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

Oh okay, you are obviously someone in the know. A Mr. Nintendo, even.

Nah... I just do some pink magic in my free times so I can see the future sometimes, other times I just see the past :-S Will try yellow magic one of this days since people say it's hardcore stuff

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by devilmaycry

In that sense PC game should all cost 10€ since DirectX SDK is free ... maybe MS charges for somekind of Visual Studio for games but DX is free (AFAIK ofcourse).

Well let's put it this way. FOR CONSOLES the Wii devkits are the cheapest.

Originally Posted by devilmaycry

In that huge 512Mb flash drive? BTW what will be the real available space after format? 500Mb probably... anyway I'm not looking forward to play games I can get for free on SourceForge.

That's internal. There is upgradable SD flash for more room plus you can use the USB ports for external harddrives.

Originally Posted by devilmaycry

Do I need to mention again the price of the RGB cable? This one just cracks me up cause these cables cost 1€ to assemble. No they ain't selling these neat add-on for 50 euro cents.

I have no idea how it is in Portugal but I'm pretty sure the accesories and controllers will be reasonably priced. Nintendo isn't Sony.

Originally Posted by devilmaycry

Good would be an alternative control scheme using a regular pad in every game, that would great not just good.

Not going to happen. You won't see either cube controllers or that traditional controller created primarily for the virtual console used in many Wii games. If you don't understand why then you're missing the point of why Wii was created.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Quote:

In that huge 512Mb flash drive? BTW what will be the real available space after format? 500Mb probably

I was wondering about that. Is that really enough space to store a bunch of downloaded games from the VC and their save files ?

FELIPE NO

Alone? Probably not unless Nintendo has a way to have games compressed really well, form a list of downloaded games that can be redownloaded quickly if space is needed for newer downloads, and keeps the savegame data. Then that amount of space could work.

I think Nintendo is going to recommend that if you're serious then you upgrade to a bigger SD card for more storage and/or use an external harddrive via the USB ports.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Has it been stated yet on how the Wii will store data? I'm aware of the flash drive but will you be able to use memory cards or another alternative for storing data? I imagine those 512 MBs getting filled awfully fast with the VC.

How ya doing, buddy?

Officially, no. The specifics haven't been stated completely yet. I work off of bits and pieces of stated information, a bit of speculation, and common sense. Read my last two posts again, dude.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

I have no idea how it is in Portugal but I'm pretty sure the accesories and controllers will be reasonably priced. Nintendo isn't Sony.

I hate to add fuel to the fire, but the weird thing is that Nintendo in some cases are more expensive than Sony in Denmark. Just look at this:

Nintendo Memory Card 251: $50.99
Sony Memory Card: $28.82

Nintendo Gamecube Controller BLACK: $59.51
Sony Playstation Controller: $39.05

As much as I hate to say it, the accessories are actually the most expensive about Nintendo consoles. This also concerns games, which almost comes up to the prices of PS2 and Xbox 360 games. (The latter is by far the most expensive. Example: The price for Elder Scrolls: Oblivion collectors edition was $102.31... Sadly, I had to settle with the normal edition. ($93.79))

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

You'll eventually be spending more for the Wii because of the 900 "optional" accessories.

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Originally Posted by Kilroy

I hate to add fuel to the fire, but the weird thing is that Nintendo in some cases are more expensive than Sony in Denmark. Just look at this:

Nintendo Memory Card 251: $50.99
Sony Memory Card: $28.82

Nintendo Gamecube Controller BLACK: $59.51
Sony Playstation Controller: $39.05

As much as I hate to say it, the accessories are actually the most expensive about Nintendo consoles. This also concerns games, which almost comes up to the prices of PS2 and Xbox 360 games. (The latter is by far the most expensive. Example: The price for Elder Scrolls: Oblivion collectors edition was $102.31... Sadly, I had to settle with the normal edition. ($93.79))

Um, maybe in Denmark, but here in the United States it's the opposite but not to such an extent. Man, you guys are getting screwed. Go yell at your retailers or at Nintendo or whoever is making that deal for you guys or something. That shit is ridiculous. ='D

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Well let's put it this way. FOR CONSOLES the Wii devkits are the cheapest.

True.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

That's internal. There is upgradable SD flash for more room plus you can use the USB ports for external harddrives.

That costs more money

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

I have no idea how it is in Portugal but I'm pretty sure the accesories and controllers will be reasonably priced. Nintendo isn't Sony.

Haha, good one, infact in Portugal... or at least in the portuguese branch of Media Markt (a know european tech stuff store) Gamecube and the available acessories are the cheapest in the entire world! (AFAIK)
For example a GC controller costs 9.99€! Unbelivable!
Any GC game available costs 9.99€ too! Including Zelda wind Waker Special edition with the N64 zeldas
I got my Gamecube including a game (pokemon) and a official memory card 59 for the absurd price of 49€! 49 Euros!

Unfortunly AFAIK here it's the only place on the world where you can get this prices, so when I have to buy stuff that's not available like a RGB cable I have to order from UK and deal with RealWorld prices, and Nintedo's are far too high.
A 360 RGB cable cost 18£ R.R.P (recomended retail price) while gamecube's RGB costs 19£ as a bargain (R.R.P. in UK is 25£). I got mine in a Amazon seller bargain for 10£ ut it's already gone, don't bother looking for it.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Not going to happen. You won't see either cube controllers or that traditional controller created primarily for the virtual console used in many Wii games. If you don't understand why then you're missing the point of why Wii was created.

Bah I say.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by devilmaycry

That costs more money

The cost for SD memory keeps coming down all the time. And versus 40 more gb for the real PS3 console for a jump of $100 you can get an external harddrive with much more space for the same price.

Originally Posted by devilmaycry

Haha, good one, infact in Portugal... or at least in the portuguese branch of Media Markt (a know european tech stuff store) Gamecube and the available acessories are the cheapest in the entire world! (AFAIK)
For example a GC controller costs 9.99€! Unbelivable!
Any GC game available costs 9.99€ too! Including Zelda wind Waker Special edition with the N64 zeldas
I got my Gamecube including a game (pokemon) and a official memory card 59 for the absurd price of 49€! 49 Euros!

Unfortunly AFAIK here it's the only place on the world where you can get this prices, so when I have to buy stuff that's not available like a RGB cable I have to order from UK and deal with RealWorld prices, and Nintedo's are far too high.
A 360 RGB cable cost 18£ R.R.P (recomended retail price) while gamecube's RGB costs 19£ as a bargain (R.R.P. in UK is 25£). I got mine in a Amazon seller bargain for 10£ ut it's already gone, don't bother looking for it.

Wow, I never knew you guys were so lucky. If you get mostly everything for cheap then you really shouldn't be complaining when you go and buy something you can't find in your area for a more realistic price. =p

Originally Posted by devilmaycry

Bah I say.

Ah, I'm sure you'll come around to liking it. At least SSBB will be using the cube and traditional controllers for your tastes for the meantime. Don't expect to see that too often though.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Wow, I never knew you guys were so lucky. If you get mostly everything for cheap then you really shouldn't be complaining when you go and buy something you can't find in your area for a more realistic price. =p

These seem pretty fair prices to me It's paing more that's unfair :lolsign:
But don't get that excited, you wont get more GC at 49€... all GC (at least that I know) have disapear from the country. What were you expecting?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Ah, I'm sure you'll come around to liking it. At least SSBB will be using the cube and traditional controllers for your tastes for the meantime. Don't expect to see that too often though.

I would laugh if it's the reverse, you trying the new pad and finding out that it's crap but whatever.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Man, you guys are getting screwed. Go yell at your retailers or at Nintendo or whoever is making that deal for you guys or something. That shit is ridiculous. ='D

I know, I really do That's why I keep getting extremely annoyed everytime someone complains about games costing over $50. (Bargain, if I could buy brand new games at that price)

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Why can't you just import? Does it end up costing the same due to shipping? Or is it because of your PAL TVs?

I mean I'd do that if those weren't problems or something.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

PAL is a problem, but I think a freeloader could change all that. There are websites offering those delicious US games relatively cheap, but I've never really gotten into it.
With that in mind (and trying to get back on topic) I'd happily swap the VC for an all singing all dancing region free Wii. God that would be great...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Oh goodness, I really hope Nintendo makes it region free. Sony is. Nintendo would be dumb not to. I hope they let you download and play japanese games too. That would be killer. I'm shooting too high but man that would rock.

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