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[PS2] Final Fantasy XII
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Old Jan 6, 2007, 08:39 PM #351 of 4284
Not that I wouldn't have already considered the userbase without a Playstation 3.
Why'd they need to mentioned FFXIII being exclusive to the PS3? It this just the same kind of announcement as the same one back when FFX was being worked on?

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I like how I fought the Goliath, and basically got wasted. I got Fran to high tail it out of there. Why is Necrohol of Nabudis hard. I'm about half way done the Medallion quest.
You got wasted... by the Goliath? That thing is easy, it's just a little heavy on the magic stuff. Try the reflect trick on it. As for the Necrohol being harder, there's 2 reasons for that:

- There's a Rank 3 Esper and 2 bosses in the area
- It's where the Nethicite shard that the Nabudis family held was used, ground zero of the destruction. With all that mist, it's no wonder that the monsters are stronger. On top of that, you have a lot of people who were killed in an instant, with regrets and all. A lot of the monsters there are either formed from people's regrets, undying patriotism (like the Deathscythe), and so on.

Oh, and the Baknamy are equipped with Demonsbanes and Demon Shields, and they seem to have the same effects on them as they do on you when you equip them.

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Metal Sphere, that crystal bug constantly casts restore on itself, giving it back up to maximum HP - that's what is making it hard.
Use the Nihopalaoa trick on it, cripple it as much as you can, and go to town. Hit it with Expose until it starts missing. It'll probably be immune to Disable, but give that a shot too. If all else fails and you can't overwhelm it, leave and go level over in Overlooking Eternity. Make sure save back in the first area every so often.

Also, if you have Reflectga + Aga spells and Opal rings, hit it with the Reflect trick too. Getting hit 3-9 times by magic is enough to slaughter most enemies. This is all assuming you don't have Reverse, since you can just cast that before he uses Restore.

Oh, and in other news...

Bestiary Completed

I was getting unbelievably bored running through the last few levels of the Pharos waiting for this thing to appear, and right when I was changing the song in winamp during the warp to the 88th floor, it appears. Tower is fucking huge. At first I thought the damn TV had screwed up, but then I realized it was just a gigantic Babil blocking the way to the elevator.

It was actually fun to fight, so much so that I fiicked on the required gambits to do the Reflect trick, and wasted him with Darkga x 9. Apparently, you don't need to finish the second page for each monster to finish the bestiary, just kill the required number. I still need 10 mandragora as I said before and a Garif.

Ba'Gamman's in the Den playing some board game against Migelo while Old Dalan watches. The title you earn for getting him in there is Scrivener.

Now the only thing left before I get Order of Ambrosia is Whiteout. The closest I've managed was four Rank 3 quickenings, the last one never comes...

Order of Ambrosia

...is what my sister pointed out to me while I was hurriedly making my way to the Clan Primer to check out the Gabranth figure. I'd completely forgotten about it, since I was so focused on getting that last thing in there.

After finishing the bestiary, I went to the Nameless Spring map in the Tchita Uplands, and turned off my gambits. A few minutes go by and I can't get a chain of 5 rank III to form, but soon enough I manage it (the game got very generous and gave me Mist Charges + Rank III after charging) and got Whiteout. Check the Den? Nothing. Then I hop onto the computer and check Children of Ivalice, and aside from the messed up order in which they have Luminescence and Whiteout, they have a good list. Seems like I'd never done Windburst, so I give a shot and nail it in under 10 minutes.

I'm pretty damn please with myself, but I'm going to go to the clan HQ and get my worthless badge. I'll see if I can get a picture of it soon.

FELIPE NO

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Old Jan 6, 2007, 11:09 PM #352 of 4284
Not so much as a game over, that would be dreadfully embarrassing. So basically you're suggesting that I level up to take on the crystal bug? I'm at about level 50 for my main group now. I just got the aeroga spells, and have had the aga-level spells for elements for a while now. Also, as this is a stupid question, what are examples of earth magick spells.
There aren't any earth magick spells. I kid you not, I was surprised too. First they gimp out on Water by not giving us Watera/Waterga when an insane amount of enemies are weak to it, and then they don't even toss a single earth spell over. Unless Gravity is supposed to be said spell, which I highly doubt (since it's HP-based, as always).

Nah, don't level up on the crystal, as once it's gone, it's gone for good. Just saying that if you can't cripple it outright with the above techniques, go back to the save crystal, save and head to Overlooking Eternity and level off of them. It'd only take a few levels for you to trounce him with ease, anyway.

Did the reflect and nihopalaoa tricks work, or have you not tried it yet?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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Old Jan 6, 2007, 11:59 PM #353 of 4284
What. There is no Waterga and Earth spells despite my Libra stating WEAK TO EARTH ELEMENTS, PLEASE INSERT COIN TO OPERATE EARTHQUAKE. What the fuck is that. Sorry but that's an instant fail for magick in this game.
That's why I figured out and created the reflect trick in the first place. Without it, offensive magic in this game is gimped.

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What is the Nihopalaoa (lol is this Hawaiian). Maybe I'm just not used to this challenge which is why I'm freaking out. I don't like the FOOBARS either - more like FUBARS - amirite.
It's a necklace that reverses the effect of items used by the character who has it equipped. Example: Equip the Nihopalaoa and throw a remedy at an enemy. It'll be inflicted with every status effect that
  • your remedies can heal
  • they aren't immune to

And don't hate on the Foobars, for they are a most excellent source of the Sagittarius gems that you need to create the Sagittarius bow, the best one in the game (made of pure sex and long range).

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Anyways, going to watch some anime like a sweaty otaku and then maybe come back to FFXII later tonight, or even past midnight.
What. Unfortunately, there are some things you don't want Libra to tell you.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Jan 7, 2007, 12:28 AM #354 of 4284
Yeah, lack of high-level water and any earth spells is pretty disappointing. I was waiting for quake before I realized that it wasn't on the license board. The Nihopaolioahe thing is the one that reverses the effect of curative effects - so if the character with it equipped uses a Remedy on an enemy, every status affliction that Remedy typically cures will now be his.

EDIT: owned.
Don't worry about it, Drex. Owned would've been if I put up the shots I took of the badge, the completed den and the rank. I'll put them up now, and if I can manage to get the video up on Youtube, a link will be edited in.

Now, until the local shop gets Okami in, I'll try to get a Danjuro or a Yagyu Darkblade (20 Chain, no blade).













There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Jan 7, 2007, 01:01 AM #355 of 4284
Over 12,000,000 clan hunt points. Oh shit.
Yeah, sorry about that. All that chaining, probably contributed to that. The marks and rare game also give more hunt points than normal, so that adds to that. Basically, it's the value of all the monsters I've killed to reach this point.

Hopefully Rogue Galaxy, which is available later this month, will give me just as many good times as FFXII.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Jan 7, 2007, 01:45 AM #356 of 4284
You need to get Okami soon. All in all, I enjoyed Okami more than FFXII. I've already been through it three times (it's that good), so I'm full of tips and hints if you happen to get stuck.
This... this is absolutely inconceivable. It boggles the mind, that a game could actually be better than this, but to be worth 3 replays? You've got me tingling with excitement, dammit. Now the wait until they get the game in is going to be that much worse.

At least I know where to go if I need some tips or advice. Oops, OT.

How did you chain the Bombshells without accidentally offing a bat? I have no idea how many damn chains were broken because of that.

Sweet. That's one seriously full den. Good work. I doubt I'll be dedicated enough to do that myself, but major props to you.
Edit #2: You know what? I'll change my avatar and signature to Esper themed jigga-things. There are 13 Espers? Four rank I (Belias, Mateus, Adrammelech, Zalera). Five rank II (Shemhazai, Hashmal, Cucuhulainn, Exodus, Zeromus). 4 rank III (Famfrit, Chaos, Ultima, Zodiark). Hmm, I guess I'll start from the bottom.

Edit: Damn, owned. Heh, looks like you got your revenge. Determination? Nah, just the perfectionist in me (which is still nagging to get that remaining Garif and those mandragora). Oh, and my curiosity to see where and what the last two sprites in the den would be doing. Makes me yearn for a FFXII sprite-version or something.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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Old Jan 7, 2007, 02:22 AM #357 of 4284
I trust that, with your overabundant knowledge of the world of Ivalice and that specifically pertaining to the twelfth installment of Final Fantasy, there is a Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings for the DS, which from what I see so far from the screen shots, features sprite like characters.
Oh, I know about that, and I'm hoping against hope that it actually turns out good. You get to use Tomaj, Kytes and his friend (the one who plays Sky Pirates) along with Penelo and Vaan. Definitely sounds like a light hearted affair, and I've heard rumors that Balthier and Fran may be playable.

If it's good enough, we may see more games taking place in XII's Ivalice.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Jan 7, 2007, 02:16 PM #358 of 4284
The Excalibur can be found in the upper map of the Great Crystal In Giruvegan, sometimes hard to get it to spawn though. The Ultima Blade you either have to make it through the Bazzar (2 Admantite, 2 Death Powder, 1Gnoma Halcyon) or there is one that I found in the Pharros Subterra on the Umbra level. For Armor the best place to go would be the Baknamy shop in the Necrohol.
For your convenience, here's FFXII's gamefaqs page, Jimmy Choo (complete with maps towards the bottom and rare game guides).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/game/459841.html

Refer tp Sephirosuy's Crystal Grande Upper Layer map, the Excalibur is the 2nd treasure from the right on map 2. The Zodiac Escutcheon is behind Taurus II, and Omega is behind Taurus I.

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Does anyone have a tip as to how to make the Mythrill Golems drop the Aquarius Gem, or the Feywood Golem's for that matter. Been trying forever and still only have one Gem to show for my efforts.
Actually, steal from them with the Thief's Cuffs before you kill them since you can get the gems that way too. You essentially double your chances of nabbing the required gems.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Jan 7, 2007, 02:53 PM #359 of 4284
Wow, missed 10 pages of replies after being sick this whole last week.

All the FFXII loot and where to find it is here. (scroll down about 60-70%)
The gamefaqs link takes him to bazaar guides, sephirosuy's guide, maps, that very same loot guide. Pretty much all he'll need. I alternated between Seph's and Shotgunnova's rare game lists because they complimented each other well.

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Congrats Metal, on your Order of Ambrosia - I don't have the patience or will power to accomplish that.

Soldier, where is this secret shop in the Nab Deadlands? I haven't uncovered it yet. By the way, just keep hunting the golems in the Feywood and they'll drop Aquarius Gems eventually. While you're hunting them, go kill some Cerberuses so that they can drop some Hell Gate's Flames.
The secret shop in the Necrohol of Nabudis is on the first map from the Salikawood entrance. Follow the long passage to the dead end with the Pandora enemy acting like a treasure chest (it's rainbow-colored), and examine to the corner to the left of the enemy. He sells Maximiliian armor, Demon Shields, Ethers, the Telekinesis technick and Scathe.

Well, I didn't actively seek out the rank. I simply did everything the game presented to me, and by the time I reached the end I only needed a little more to get the rank, so I just topped it off. He should do things one at a time, as HGFs take a while to gather. Oh, and he should steal them, then kill them. Better chances, but of course he should use the Thief's Cuffs.

2 Hell Gate's Flames + 2 Damascus Steels = 1 Gemsteel (one of 3 things needed for the Tournesol).

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I currently stopped playing my game because I went through the 3 of 3 mini bosses at Pharaos. Saved at the 64F, but there's a pillar gate in the middle (looks like one of those wedding altars) thats inaccessible. The map shows a bunch of gears on the previous floors, but I'm still unsure what I need to do to get to the next floor. Gosh, its so inconvenient that you make it halfway through an area, and then there's no clues given for the next task.

Oh yeah - Okami? Never heard it. Post a link to the game's site so I can look it over. Thanx!
Do they have crystals on top of them, and they have names? Those are altars that you touch that make you give up something. I believe the four are:
  • Attack
  • Magic
  • Items
  • Mini-map

I took the mini-map one because it's the one that you can still manage easily without. It's the light purple gem in the southwest part of the circle.

FELIPE NO

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Old Jan 7, 2007, 05:54 PM #360 of 4284
I took the Altar of Wealth (items).
Currently at the save point at Pharaos 2nd Ascent: Reach of the Damned (64F).
That altar in the middle is the "Dais of Ascendence", but can't get on it because Nothing Happens. This chamber appears to be affecting the Dais.

The next level up is Pharos 2nd Ascent: The Bounds of Truth (65F). This is where I defeated Fenrir, the white tiger-humanoid (after beating Pandaemonium, the solid rock tortoise and Slyt, the scaled fish on the previous levels).

So I'm not exactly sure what my next action has to be to ascend past floor 65.
I distinctly remember there being another waystone somewhere. After selecting what you want to give up, you go up the floors with that handicap in place, and I think somewhere along the line, you have to call the stone back? You may want to check someone like shotgunnova's guide, since there may be a step you missed.

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Old Jan 8, 2007, 12:10 AM #361 of 4284
If you can keep your main attacker decoy'd and reversed, always, it is easy. But if decoy wears off for more than a second or two, and one of your party members dies, you will have to run away and revive them.
Wow, that's not even worth it. Reverse lasts for about 15 seconds even in the best of conditions, and the constant stopping to reverse + lure would take time away from Curaja. I'd say just make sure you're suitably equipped, set your gambits accordingly to make a nice net, and have at it.

Eventually he gets to the point where using the reverse+lure is too slow and he fires too fast, essentially making buffing a liability.

Yes, I took him all in one go. No dashing off or anything.

Edit: Oh, and his random Berserk status effect on his beam sounds like a benefit, but you need to have all your folks using your gambit setups, so have that dispelled ASAP.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Jan 8, 2007, 01:44 AM #362 of 4284
Simply setting the right gambits and attacking didn't work for me. Even at level 99 and with all buffs and the best armor, he was still hitting for around 5000-7000 points each time, far too much to heal; I would have been in a constant curing loop. Even my highest HP character equipped with a bubble belt could only take three or four hits at the most.
Omega was doing 7k to my characters whenever Protectga came down, and that was when he was HP critical. If you stagger and setup the gambits right (God I wish I had written them down), everybody is essentially going to be be all healed up constantly.

Even if he focused on one person, that would just cause the gambit to hit everyone twice, making them temporarily "immune" to his attack due to the double healing.

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Curaja shouldn't be needed if Omega is only attacking the person who is the decoy. If that person can be re-reversed before he runs out of HP, then Omega will be healing him constantly. I had both of my other characters with reverse and decoy gambits for my party leader to be extra sure that neither of the buffs wore off. Once I had the chain started, I killed Omega easily. The dashing off was before I figured everything out properly. This way my main attacker rarely took damage, and my other attackers stopped only occasionally to rebuff him.
Reverse and Decoy miss far too often, IMO. That requires the magic accuracy accessory to improve that, because normally Reverse will miss... and miss... and miss. Decoy? Not so much, but the last thing you want is having your characters stop to keep trying a spell that only lasts for 15 seconds (knocking someone out of comission constantly) and misses. The benefits simply aren't there in a fight where simple damage negation via Curaja makes it a cakewalk.

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In this case, the berserk status was beneficial, because the main attacker did more damage that way.
In this case? It would, but due to the setup, one of the Reverse/Decoy folks is going to get berserked and you run the possibilty of having to stop and Dispelga both to get control again.

While I agree that it does work, it's far more likely to get thrown out of whack if he gets lucky with double berserk on the right people, speeds up and focuses on the reverser before the spell can actually connect and before Decoy is in place.

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Also, if you do go and fight Omega, don't make the same mistake I did.

Be SURE to pick up the Omega badge before leaving the area!
Eesh, even though you mentioned this way back, it still gets a "...damn" out of me. I'd be positively livid if that had happened to me. All that for essentially, nothing.

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Old Jan 8, 2007, 11:48 AM #363 of 4284

I've cleared all the room "ward of the sword king", and then i move from the room with the save christal, to the ward of the sword king to see if negalmur has spawned (i always go near the statue, as the guide says he spawns therE). Then, since he hasn't respawned, i go back to the save room and i repeat the process. I've wasted half an hour but he didn't spawn. Can somebody give me a hint on how to make him spawn?
Right from sephirosuy's 80 Rare Game guide:

Originally Posted by sephirosuy's guide
In Defend Of Sword King which is the corridor at West from Save
Crystal (go bottom from Save Crystal), kill all enemies there,
exit and re-enter. Sometimes those giant enemies will spawn
again, make sure clear all of them.
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Ah, and how do i get the zodiac spear? I haven't opened any of those chests.
If you haven't opened any of those chests, it'll be in the Necrohol of Nabudis.

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Old Jan 8, 2007, 02:21 PM #364 of 4284
I did that, but still couldn't make it spawn. And i've wasted about 2 hours...
Anyway, for my bad english, i can't understand where the zodiac spear is. Right now i'm in nabudis, waiting for negalmuur...but where in the dungeon is the chest i neeD?

Mhh, about the zodiac spear. Do i have to find the entrance from silkwood (never passed through that entrance), and find that room?
Read Piccolo's post. He just referred you to a very good guide to get the spear.

Originally Posted by Spatula
Someone set up Jimmy Choo the bomb. Is this even a joke.
Well, is it?

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At any rate, I'm quite fearful of the "hog guys" in the "Necherol" of Nabudis. They're weak to ice damage, which I'm trying to capitalize as much on my blizzaga spells, since it seems to do decent damage (around 2000) to them. However, they are MUCH stronger (11,000 HP) than their Deadlands cousins with only like half that amount. I need to know if there are any save crystals in the Necherol area, as it'd be a pain to keep tracking back to where I fought that red crystal bug in the deadlands.
Baknamy heierarchy:

- Salikawood (weakest)
- Deadlands (middle of the road)
- Necrohol (bitches have Demonsbanes + Demon Shields)

Equip cameo belts if the parrying gets annoying, and keep in mind that if you see one Baknamy, there are two more that will decloak if you engage that one (or it attacks you).

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How is the deathscythe hunt (level VI) in the vacinity? I've already taken down three rank VI hunts so I probably know what I'm up against.
Easy, but he puts up a paling, making himself immune to physical attacks about halfway through. That's when he starts spamming Death. Aside from that, he's easy.

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Old Jan 8, 2007, 02:39 PM #365 of 4284
Death is probably one of the least worried spells I have in this game now, surprisingly. I remember how in the previous FFs where casting/using a pheonix down was such a pain, and it was a pretty serious case if one of your guys went down. Gambit Phoenix Downs, why are you so awesome.
Heh, yeah, it makes reviving folks easy. Unfortunately, I hate having my people go down. It's a cheap move/spell and only serves to prolong battles.

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This cameo belt you speak of sounds interesting, considering my melee guys are only yielding 70% parries and misses, while only 30% hit rate, which makes things bad - therefore relying on blizzaga. Where is this item.

P.S. Yes, it is a joke.
They sell it in Balfonheim (I think at the item shop), or if you want to do it the hard way, Archeoaevis enemies drop them.

Dammit, tried again over and over and i still can't make negalmuur spawn.
Are you killing everything in the room and zoning?

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Jan 8, 2007, 02:54 PM #366 of 4284
Yep, i come from the save room, kill all mobs, go to the boss room (the one where i fought the esper), and get back to ward of the sword king, but he doesn't appear, so i zone again to the save room, get back to the ward of the sword king, but nothing yet. So i save, restart, and load, and do the whole again. I've been doing this for the whole day, but still nothing...
Are you making sure you kill everything, and then double check? Because sometimes the enemies in larger maps will respawn as you're moving away. Other than that, good luck. Some rare game, even with the conditions met, take repeated attempts to get them to pop up.

You're going to hate getting Tower. =/

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Jan 8, 2007, 03:05 PM #367 of 4284
Well, when i zone, no mobs are in the area, and they appear after sa little i've zoned back in ward of the sword king, so, later that i get where the mob should spawn...but does he spawn near the statue in front of the save room door?

Negalmuur spawns right at the intersection between the three paths:

- The one from the boss map
- The one from the waystone
- The one from the save crystal

He spawns right there, and the monsters only respawn if you move two maps away and back again.

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Old Jan 8, 2007, 06:24 PM #368 of 4284
Well I decided not to go to Omega yet because I think I am more apt to use MS's method during the fight. So I will probably have to level up a bit more till I'm at 99. I also want to have the Whale Whisker becuase of the insane combo rate. I believe Metal referred to it as "Pure Sex", haha I love that.So until I can get the rest of the Aquarius Gems I think I'll hold off. Now it's time to go ahead and take out Chaos. Don't know why it took me this long to finally do this quest but I have all the medallions and stuff now. With the new magic trick it should be a cakewalk.
Just use Piccolo's confirmed spell: Scathe. He did reflected one Scathe spell and it did 9999 points worth of damage three times to the Shield Wyrm he used it against. Now, if you have all three do it then throw on the Opal Rings you need, he'll take ~89,991 points of damage if they all hit for the maximum amount.

That's definitely not something to scoff at, since it's 3x as much damage as you would've done if each individual scathe was cast directly at him.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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Old Jan 8, 2007, 06:55 PM #369 of 4284
Yea I have tried it out as well and for that reason I am very much looking foward to this fight. Even if he is taken out after just a couple spells! Just went through the Humbaba mistant fight with ease. What commical way to go huh?
Yeah, both Fury and Humbaba Mistant, after being made out to be some world destroying beasts, were actually just clowns. Fury especially.. WTF?

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BTW, how long did it take you to get the Z. Estecheuon (sp?) to spawn? I think you said there was one in the Cerobbi Stoppe if I'm thinking correct.
Ugh, you don't want to know. I think 50% of the time, the chest isn't even there, and you have to go through a Ash Wyrm and 3 Skulwyrms to get to it (you have to go through them to make it respawn too). Just do this (after unlocking Taurus II)

- Make sure you saved before
- Go to the platform with the chest on it
- If it's not there, run all the way back to Capricorn II (just inside the map)
- Run back to the chest and check.
- That constitutes 3 maps, so the chest will be forced to spawn or respawn

If you want to make a Sagittarius Bow, this is a GREAT place to get Moon Rings, as the Wyrm drops them often (along with Koga Blades). You'll also leave with a ton of Wyrm Bones for anyone who wants to make the Scorpion Tail.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 01:13 AM #370 of 4284
Damn man, that sounds like quite a bitch to get. I think I may have to hold onto that one for a day when I get really bored and need to just kill some time. I think my patience would be running thin after a little while especially with all the zoning and shit.
Heh, it will especially if you don't have at least one Ribbon, because the Skulwyrms have a nasty habit of using curse left and right.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 02:04 AM #371 of 4284
nope, it's just you and your trusty charge gambit here (and god knows that's gonna happen plenty, with those friendly oversouls using annul all the time).
You don't even need charge, just have your characters whack some enemies a few times, and they'll have enough to Syphon easily.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 01:13 PM #372 of 4284
Subterra sucks Ballllsssssssssss, bdw does levelling ACTUALLY make any NOTICEABLE differences

For example, is there actually any proof o.0

Because i find that my characters i still hitting the same damage rate with same speed as 10 levels previous.
Go do a quickening chain on a wolf with Rank 1s only. Now start a new game, get a team and get them their first quickenings. Try the same change on a wolf.

Since the quickenings have their own power rating separate from the weapons equipped (notice they don't use their weapons), if they don't gain anything from levels, you'll do the same damage to the wolves. If not, well then you know that you gain something when you level.

Or you can stop bottlenecking your characters, and give them better weapons and armor. This game definitely has a focus on gameplay, since the equipment you throw on actually improves your party noticeably.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 01:37 PM #373 of 4284
Yep, i found it that equipment affects much more the game. A guide i red, said that you should do at least 3 dungeons with the same equip. I disagree. At least if you consider all those chained dungeon as only 1.

Anyway, i red that maximiliam armor is the best. Is it true for both the helmet and armor?
Should i put it on all my characters, or only on the tank, and give the others light armor?
Lordly Robes and Circlet = Best Magic Armor
Dueling Mask and Brave Suit = Best Light Armor
Grand Armor and Grand Helm = Best Heavy Armor

I give everyone heavy armor. I focus on all out attack because magic in this game is too slow for most normal encounters, and the disadvantages in places like Henne, of losing precious points in defense are far too great to ignore. The light armor is ridiculous. No point in having so much HP when you run through it faster than the others do.

How ya doing, buddy?

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 01:51 PM #374 of 4284
And what about heavy body, and mystic hat?
Should i use this combination just for the one who'll use the masamune in the endgame?
Maximillian + Circlet on whoever is going to be using the Masamune.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 03:04 PM #375 of 4284
okay I need help beating Zodiark, I have all my people at lvl 99, and I can't beat him, I don't have the best equipment, And I am not going to spend hours trying to get the zodiak spear! too long for some stupid weapon. SO where can I get the other extremely powerful weapons? Also where can I get the magicks Scathe, Renew?
Zodiark:

- Equip Black Masks (Absorb Darkja, heals you), get them in Balfonheim
- Equip White Masks (Absorb Shining Ray or whatever it's called, heals you), get them in Balfonheim. Just switch out to the appropriate mask (mainly Black), keep the defensive suite up constantly, keep an eye on his palings to figure out what he's vulnerable to, and don't hit him with elemental attacks.

Scathe - Necrohol
Ardor - IIRC, Burrough in the Barheim Passage
Flare, Renew, Hastega, etc.. - Make sure to check the shop keepers in the Dalmasca Westersand/Estersand. They sell these after the Pharos.


Weapons:
- Tournesol (2H Sword) (Bazaar, there's guides on how to make it)
- Durandal (1H Sword) (ditto)
- Sagittarius (Bow) (ditto)
- Scorpion Tail (Hammer) (ditto)
- Golden Axe (Dalmasca Estersand/Westersand just before/after Pharos)
- Gastrophetes (Crossbow) (Steal from rare game Pallicant or hunt club reward)
- Danjuro (fucking dagger... oops. rare game Larvae Eater drops)
- Masamune (Katana) (Ancient Man of Mystery hunt reward or bazaar creation)
- Rod of Faith (Rod) (Hidden in the wyrm snout @ Bur-Omisace after completing the Behemoth King hunt)
- Staff of the Magi (Staff) (Steal from rare game Luxollid in Pharos Subterra B2F)
- Yagyu Darkblade (Ninja Sword) (dropped by rare game Bombshell)
- Volcano (best Handbomb, right?) (Handbomb) (Reward for Catoblepas hunt)
- Grand Mace (Mace) (Reward for Pylraster hunt)
- Whale Whisker (Pole) (make it in the bazaar)
- Fomalhaut (Gun) (chest found in the room where you fought the Antlion mark. UNEQUIP YOUR DIAMOND ARMLET, also found in the Henne Mines secret section)

Originally Posted by Spatula
Moving along, I'm going to need to start saving some major gil, however, at the same time I'm afraid of selling off certain "precious" loot which may be required for the ultimate weapons. I'm sure I can find these required items in the guidebook (or even in the game itself for that matter), so I'll have to sit down and research it up a bit before cashing in. I'll continue my venture into the Necrohol of Nabudis tonight, and with the absence of any save points, vigilance will be my friend (almost as if the Roblon hunt, where, due to my chronic saving tendencies, somewhat freaked out as I almost forgot to get the Medallion from the rodent guy - forcing me to back track from the base of the hidden mountain up to the top. Man did I run like hell from the bones - they aren't hard, but I had a considerable accomplishment - that is beating Roblon - on the line.)
Don't worry about throwing things away. The vast majority of items for weapons you create are only for said recipes and nothing else, meaning you'd only be accumulating loot in the bazaar for the creation of said weapon. If you need money bad, just check everything in except for whatever items you want to make ASAP.

FELIPE NO

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