[SotW] Song of the Week - WEEK 124 Voting/WEEK 125 Nominating

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

Dynamite Headdy (Game Rip) - Schumacher Fly: Always wanted to play this game but never got to it. Now I sort of regret this, as the music is obviously top-tier for the Genesis. If the entire rip is of this quality, I'm going to have to download it. Was this composed by anyone from Sonic Team? I'm detecting many similarities in style. Good stuff.

One of the best Genesis soundtracks, by my reckoning. No Sonic Team members, as the soundtrack was done by the Treasure sound team: Norio Hanzawa and the like. Quirky, fun, and loads of depth (in number of tracks and composition). You may remember South Town's Theme from the BCC, which lost in the first round. Pity, because it's the best track from the ST and just about as good as the Genesis gets (which is phenomenal).

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Opfer

Okay, I don't know Metroid and Super Metroid, so I'll just get more specific:

SCDC-00276~7: Metroid Prime & Fusion Original Soundtracks - VGMdb

Disc 1, Track 21 (Tallon Overworld)

Tallon Overworld contains the Brinstar theme from the original Metroid. Hits with full force at about a minute and a half in.

I'm pretty skeptical about allowing any music from at least the first Prime, myself.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Yeah, staff4 from the same album. Week 6. Placed third.

I am also okay with this.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Hmm, yeah, the one with Brinstar in it is Planet Tallon IV (track 7). Tallon Overworld is the one in that video. Didn't catch any previous Metroid themes in that one either. My overall reservations on Prime music still stand, though.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Anyone else care to weigh in on Metroid Prime? Opinions seem mixed, so I'm probably going to make a poll within the next 24 hours unless there's a flood of ayes or nays.

Originally Posted by Rotorblade

Album: Omega Five Soundtrack
Track: Stage 1: The glacial fortress
Artist: Hiroyuki Iwatsuki

As superpumped as I am to get a nom from this, this album was released four days ago. Let's give the Iwatsuki some time to marinate and taste even better.

We seem to be having a whole spate of nominations from recent games and albums. Maybe it's about time we actually codify how long it takes for music to no longer be novel, assuming people still agree with this rule. Three months?

I was speaking idiomatically.

I made a Metroid Prime poll.

Originally Posted by Rotorblade

Fuck the album, I'd have nominated the track if there was a gamerip. It's not like Omega Five is a super popular game, and it's been out on Live for at least a while. WHILE THE IRON IS HOT, CHz! BLARGH.

Edit: On a serious note, I don't necessarily understand the point of letting the game music "simmer" when it isn't exactly an ultra popular release to begin with. Exactly who are we catering to at this point? Why does game music have to be "simmering" in the face of an "album" release. That sounds pretty backward. I doubt much of GFF, or any "gamer" for that matter, actually knew about the track until this album was released. Granted I have no actual statistics for that, so I'm reaching a bit... so I'll just ask, the game dropped January 8th, 2008; how long of a wait are we talking about here, Chz?

Originally Posted by TheKnightOfNee

I understand holding off on an album that's new that has the chance to become really popular. But for stuff that is pretty obscure and certainly won't move into the spotlight, I don't see why we need to wait. It's not going to make a huge leap and be outside the confines of SOTW anytime soon.

We once had a track from Katamari Damacy in SotW. This was from a game rip, before the soundtrack came out and way before the game was released in the U.S. So that's the theory behind the rule: you can't tell if this dinky little shmup no one's heard of could have a word-of-mouth popularity explosion and be Katamari friggin' Damacy.

Even if you agree that waiting is a good idea, though, it turns out to be particularly hard to nail down how long to wait. Let's just say we go with three months after the game's initial release. Who's to say three months is long enough, and everyone isn't going to know the music inside and out at the end of month four? What if the game's been out in Japan for four months, but is due out in the U.S. in another month? Is it okay now, or should we wait until after the new release? And how long after the new release? What if the game's been out for four months, but a soundtrack is coming out in the next month? That would probably increase the popularity of the music even more than a domestic release of the game would. :bigugh:

I don't really have an opinion for or against the rule, but it's how we've been doing things. We've just been able to get away with a nebulous "novelty is not obscurity" without defining an acceptable waiting period because we've never really had to deal with people nominating very recently released tracks until a bunch of them right now.

Originally Posted by Dhsu

Artist(s): Spencer Nilsen
Album/Game Title: Sonic Boom
Track Title: Workbench - Bad Future
Disc Number: 1 (of 1)
Track Number: 14
Catalog Number: DIDX-020642
Year: 1993
Source(s): DIDX-020642: Sonic the Hedgehog Boom Limited Collector's Edition - The... - VGMdb

Um, Sonic CD? Is this okay with anyone?

Originally Posted by Opfer

Also, can anyone tell me where I can find some information about this Best Song Contest that everyone is talking about? I've tried searching for it but didn't find anything useful.

The BSC is a yearly tournament-style contest here for any original piece of video game music (so nothing off arrangement CDs, etc.). You can view the 2006 and 2007 archives.

Originally Posted by isdapi

Btw, is Phantasy Star series banned for Sotw? And some other series (apart of the popular ones, evidently)?

Yup, all Phantasy Star is out, unless you can make a case that a specific game is obscure enough. Same with Wild Arms. I'm seriously making myself a note this time to finish that list, because I keep forgetting and it's embarrassing.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Voting is closed and nominations are restricted!

1). [19/13] Dynamite Headdy (Game Rip) - Schumacher Fly
2). [19/12] Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - To Catch an Owl
3). [18] DOUBLE DRAGON II The Revenge - Low Pursuit (Mission 2)
4). [17] Maui Mallard in Cold Shadow (PC Redbook Audio) - The Mojo Mansion
5). [15] Dragon's Fury (Game Rip) - OMAKEBGM00 (Thunder Force II: Knights of Legend)
6). [14] Real Bout Garou Densetsu 2 Arrange Sound Trax - Get the Sky ~ With Your Dream (Alfred)
7). [9] Kameo: Elements of Power Original Soundtrack - Hero's Theme
8). [3] Duck Tales 2 (Game Rip) - Scotland Theme

Originally Posted by Dhsu

I assumed it would be since I didn't see it in the archive. I don't really know about its popularity outside SotW though, aside from SONIC BOOM, SONIC BOOM, SONIC BOOOOOOOOM. Is there just a moratorium on non-SMS Sonic games in general? How about the Advance and Rush series?

No moratorium, although I think Sonic games should be looked at pretty closely. I thought Sonic CD's soundtracks were pretty well known, so I want to know what other people think. I'd be fine with the Advance games, but probably not with Rush or Rush Adventure.

Originally Posted by Moguta

Oh, CHz. Would the Rockman X arrange album be obscure enough to qualify for SotW? I know Mega Man is insanely popular, but that album seems relatively obscure.

Not likely. Album doesn't seem to get as much love as it should, but I don't see it being obscure enough to make up for the fact that everyone knows MMX.

FELIPE NO

The quality of the music in video games released in the last four months or so must be phenomenal.

No More Heroes
JP: December 6, 2007
US: January 22, 2008
OST: January 23, 2008

If this is okay, that NiGHTS track is too.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Rotorblade

Just, I really want some kind of answer regarding how long of a wait I'm looking at.

There is justified confusion about the waiting period (cf. Manny Biggz). I thought I had made the situation clear by stating twice that the waiting period is undefined and seeking feedback about how long it should last, which a few people have provided, and I apologize for failing to do so. For the benefits of you and everyone else who does not know the particulars of the waiting period:

I don't know. We are currently in the process of making things explicit so that you will know.

The waiting period is neither a rule nor a guideline: it's a decree made by the SotW founder that was invoked probably once over the seventy weeks between when it was issued and a few weeks ago. Since then, it has been mentioned with regards to five tracks and counting, four of which have been nominated by people who only started participating after it was imposed. The part of the rules that you quoted does not apply because the waiting period is not in the rules at all. It has never been formalized and just been treated as common practice between the people who actually remember it happening because there has never been a pressing reason to until now. This is finally being addressed per the above [size=6][b] text.

Originally Posted by Rotorblade

I'm gonna sit here, with no clearly defined time and one day someone's gonna decide that "Oh hey, it'd be cool to nominate this because it sounds cool off the album I just downloaded" while I'm sitting here right now thinking "I wanted to nominate this the day I heard it while playing the damned game."

If you would like a guarantee that this track will not be nominated by anyone until you do after the next lunar eclipse or whatever waiting period is agreed upon, assuming one is imposed on your track, I can provide one.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

DISCUSSION GOES HERE NOW

There's nowhere I can't reach.