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What is your opinion about Hentai?
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Old Apr 3, 2006, 12:16 PM Local time: Apr 4, 2006, 12:16 AM #1 of 33
Question What is your opinion about Hentai?

I'm a normal man, but believe me, I hate Hentai to death. I couldn't understand why there are lot of people like them. In my opinion Hentai are rather discriminative art and couldn't be considered even an erotic art since the composition between the man and woman rather inbalance. In erotism we could find the beauty of heteroerotic but in hentai?

Hentai are just tools to expose big boobs, tits, or other annoying details, god, how come people cope with these vulgarity??:doh:

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 12:29 PM Local time: Apr 3, 2006, 09:29 AM #2 of 33
So, you hate porn in general or just drawn stuff? I mean, some porn revolves around a single fetish, like big breasts, blowjobs, footjobs, S&M shit, etc. Hentai does the same thing, only you get some of the more freakier stuff (lolicon, dismemberment, skullfucking, etc.).

There's no beauty in hentai other than the occassional decent artwork. And I don't really get how it's a "discriminative" art. Could you explain.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 12:44 PM Local time: Apr 3, 2006, 12:44 PM #3 of 33
I'm totally into the catgirls thing, but much of it is just too creepy for me. I personally find it too weird, but then again, I'm not the biggest fan of porn.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 12:47 PM Local time: Apr 4, 2006, 12:47 AM #4 of 33
"Discriminative" here means art in hentai only revolve around the woman as "object". I have noticed, majority of hentai art always focusing how man playing the woman's genital like object or toy, and not to mention, sometimes the facial expression of the woman is like being raped (at least, that's the impression I got).

It's very different in hetererotic photography where the man and woman are treated equals beautifully. So far, the most beautiful non-hentai art I found is only in Berserk by Kentaro Miura (how I wish there are lots of non-explicit art like these).

But maybe Hentai also reflects how japanese treat woman as second class.

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None of that approaches this:
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The Mr. Methane CD, purchased over ebay for .01¢. Yeah, free shipping. This guy performs all sorts of neat stuff, including the doot doot, doot doot from the Blue Danube.

Allow me to share a track from this CD. Here ya go.
I think he should have paid you .01¢ instead.
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Old Apr 3, 2006, 12:52 PM #5 of 33
I guess it depends on what you're into. Obviously the stuff that appears in hentai isn't something that you enjoy but there is stuff out there that you do, you just have to look elsewhere to find it. Weather you like it or not is a strictly person by person basis. By the same token, why do people like S&M? Because it gets them off, simple as that. It's not for everyone but hey, whatever works, right?

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 12:59 PM Local time: Apr 4, 2006, 12:59 AM #6 of 33
I guess you're right, in the end it returns to us to decide whether you want to see them or not. But to be honest, sexual concepts of japanese are rather confusing. I mean, where could you find, dickgirl (omg), lolicon, yaoi, etc?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
You all think you got good deals, huh? Ha! You frugal and observant shoppers have more to learn.

None of that approaches this:
*censored for sake of signature size*
The Mr. Methane CD, purchased over ebay for .01¢. Yeah, free shipping. This guy performs all sorts of neat stuff, including the doot doot, doot doot from the Blue Danube.

Allow me to share a track from this CD. Here ya go.
I think he should have paid you .01¢ instead.
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Old Apr 3, 2006, 01:22 PM #7 of 33
Most pornography depicts exactly the things that you say you dislike. Women as objects, inequality between the sexes etc.

If you haven't noticed it when watching 'normal' porn, then you haven't been paying attention. It's why so many people like myself don't like pornography in general, hentai isn't much different, other than being exagerated.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 01:26 PM Local time: Apr 3, 2006, 10:26 AM #8 of 33
Originally Posted by eriol
I guess you're right, in the end it returns to us to decide whether you want to see them or not. But to be honest, sexual concepts of japanese are rather confusing. I mean, where could you find, dickgirl (omg), lolicon, yaoi, etc?
The Japanese are crazy, but so are most cultures. Just be glad we haven't seen midget hentai yet.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 01:48 PM Local time: Apr 3, 2006, 11:48 AM #9 of 33
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Just be glad we haven't seen midget hentai yet.
Yeah, it's called Rozen Maiden.

A few boys are looking at it right this very moment on 4chan. /b/ sup?

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 03:31 PM #10 of 33
I personally hate Hentai too. I think it is disgusting anime.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 03:50 PM #11 of 33
Originally Posted by eriol
I guess you're right, in the end it returns to us to decide whether you want to see them or not. But to be honest, sexual concepts of japanese are rather confusing. I mean, where could you find, dickgirl (omg), lolicon, yaoi, etc?
watch it with a girl, you'll get some points out of it ;p.

My opinion on hentai. I'm not against it. It's just your average porn that you would see irl or in front of you (a naked chick offering you a lap dance in the club). Kuradoberi is right about the japanese, they are crazy when it comes to exaggerating sex. but if you look at some hentais, they aren't so bad. Sometimes they tend to add story in it. o.o;

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:33 PM #12 of 33
Originally Posted by chato
MIt's just your average porn that you would see irl or in front of you
Jesus, so tentacles raping girls is things you would see irl or in front of you? Prob not. (Just making a point... not flaming <_>)

What's up with hentai anyways? Is it commonly watched as popular animes in Japan?

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:34 PM #13 of 33
Originally Posted by Taegueki
Jesus, so tentacles raping girls is things you would see irl or in front of you? Prob not. (Just making a point... not flaming <_>)

What's up with hentai anyways? Is it commonly watched as popular animes in Japan?

minus that lol.

as for it being popular in japan.. I think to them it'd be educational for kids XD.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:38 PM #14 of 33
Lol, educational? Like in sex ed class, kids would be watching a hentai they picked. And watch an epi per class... lol.

The hentai would bascially cover everything in sex.ed including raping.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:39 PM Local time: Apr 3, 2006, 01:39 PM #15 of 33
Yes. That's precisely it.

My girlfriend and I (Handy) bought a squid last weekend. It was a little messy at first but she went on to say how it sucked better than I did. She was the one who presented the idea, having had past experienced with octoupus tentacles. This was a whole new world to me, and, according to Handy, tentacle hentai was not a mere fantasy.

There are some hentai out there that have pretty decent stories. Personally, I found Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night (and it's sequel) to be fun and engaging. Granted I've never played the h-games themselves, but the sex itself from what I've read seems very tacked on. There's a massive emphasis on story and character development over the cheesy porn.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:39 PM #16 of 33
Originally Posted by Taegueki
Lol, educational? Like in sex ed class, kids would be watching a hentai they picked. And watch an epi per class... lol.

The hentai would bascially cover everything in sex.ed including raping.

exactly. who knows if they had a sex.ed teacher that loved to mess around.

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Originally Posted by emmanuel lewis

There are some hentai out there that have pretty decent stories
Bible Black would be one of them.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:47 PM #17 of 33
WTF, isn't Black Bible... isn't it something about everyone being perverted? Or something like that, I heard about it from my sick buddies.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:48 PM #18 of 33
Originally Posted by Taegueki
WTF, isn't Black Bible... isn't it something about everyone being perverted? Or something like that, I heard about it from my sick buddies.

aside from 2 girls having dicks, this one dude had the power to manipulate a girl with black magic. making them fall for him.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:50 PM #19 of 33
Originally Posted by eriol
"Discriminative" here means art in hentai only revolve around the woman as "object". I have noticed, majority of hentai art always focusing how man playing the woman's genital like object or toy, and not to mention, sometimes the facial expression of the woman is like being raped (at least, that's the impression I got).
One could argue that that's the entire point behind pornography.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:53 PM Local time: Apr 3, 2006, 01:53 PM #20 of 33
Bible Black I couldn't even watch for more than five minutes. I didn't get to any dickgirls, but everything just seemed so absurd. Maybe it's because the moment I turned it on people were having sex in a park or something.

I don't normally watch hentai at all, actually. Handy doesn't like it. The most I've done is check out summaries of the aforementioned h-games and watch the anime based on them. Melty Blood, a fighting game spin-off of Tsukihime, is loads of fun for example. Straightforward hentai movies are typically really shitty premises with flat characters that fit certain fetishes. There's your loli, there's you bookish bitch, there's your well-rounded heroine, and there's the older, mature Japanese chick with a naughty twist. There's generally no plot outside of how to get idiot male lead into vagina B to vagina C.

Handy no like. At least NORMIE porn just tells you "Hi my name's Brandy and I like pee-pee hoses!"

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 04:57 PM #21 of 33
Originally Posted by Emmanuel Lewis
Bible Black I couldn't even watch for more than five minutes. I didn't get to any dickgirls, but everything just seemed so absurd. Maybe it's because the moment I turned it on people were having sex in a park or something.

I don't normally watch hentai at all, actually. Handy doesn't like it. The most I've done is check out summaries of the aforementioned h-games and watch the anime based on them. Melty Blood, a fighting game spin-off of Tsukihime, is loads of fun for example. Straightforward hentai movies are typically really shitty premises with flat characters that fit certain fetishes. There's your loli, there's you bookish bitch, there's your well-rounded heroine, and there's the older, mature Japanese chick with a naughty twist. There's generally no plot outside of how to get idiot male lead into vagina B to vagina C.

Handy no like. At least NORMIE porn just tells you "Hi my name's Brandy and I like pee-pee hoses!"
Some games are good. Fate/stay night has a few good fighting games. Im not sure if thats counted as a h-game . Unless im missing something and im not playing the storyline at all. Melty Blood would be another game i enjoyed playing as well, yet another fighting game with a Cadenza upgrade. nothing much.

btw. nice well said. now i wish i was with my ex right now ;p.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 05:00 PM #22 of 33
One of many things I don't like about hentai is when I see a hentai about my fav game/anime. (Like Oh My Godness! for instance.)

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 05:01 PM Local time: Apr 3, 2006, 02:01 PM #23 of 33
Fate/Stay has a doujin fighting game, though the name escapes me. Melty Blood is coming to the PS2 later this year (or in a few months, I can't remember that either).

I forgot to mention that Handy enjoyed La Blue Girl.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 05:01 PM Local time: Apr 3, 2006, 04:01 PM #24 of 33
Originally Posted by Merv Burger
One could argue that that's the entire point behind pornography.
Point already made.

Anyway, I think every facet of pornography has it's over-the-top incarnations. On these very forums there's Eel Sex, and that's not hentai (lol). I highly recommend not scrolling much past the first three posts, as someone found some real people and . . . just don't go there.
There will be hentai that stays within the ideas of 'normal sex', and there will be hentai that really goes too far and is more laughable than arousing.
I've seen some, but I'm just not a big fan of it, and never really have been.
I'm trying to shake pornography in general, anyway.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 05:02 PM #25 of 33
Originally Posted by Taegueki
One of many things I don't like about hentai is when I see a hentai about my fav game/anime. (Like Oh My Godness! for instance.)

That is something I dont like as well. I hate it when they ruin the image of some animes/mangas.

Originally Posted by emmanuel lewis
Fate/Stay has a doujin fighting game, though the name escapes me. Melty Blood is coming to the PS2 later this year (or in a few months, I can't remember that either).

I forgot to mention that Handy enjoyed La Blue Girl
Wasn't the name called Fatal Fake or something?

Every girl i knew loved la blue girl back in HS lol. Talk about an overrated ass hentai..

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