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Old Jul 17, 2008, 04:20 PM #1 of 68
Watchmen

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Hopefully it isn't taken down too quickly.

So do you think it will suck? Or will it be a masterpiece? Or will it be OK?

Things that irked me: a little over-stylized, Ozymandias looks like the pussiest motherfucker in the world, and Rorschach doesn't sound like enough of a serial killing hobo to me.

I liked Dr. Manhattan though he lookin fresh

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Old Jul 17, 2008, 04:35 PM #2 of 68
It will be as good as a Watchmen movie could possibly be

So it'll be okay I guess

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Old Jul 17, 2008, 04:41 PM Local time: Jul 17, 2008, 04:41 PM #3 of 68
We shall see. I didn't care much for the comic but that was mostly the pacing that bugged me. Condensed down to movie length it has more potential. Ozymandias does look like shit though. Everyone else looks ok though I could have done with more Rorschach in the trailer.

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Old Jul 17, 2008, 04:51 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2008, 05:51 AM #4 of 68
This looks very promising. I really like the quality of movies DC is releasing recently. Hopefully Watchmen will be faithful to the comic, but will stand out on it's own as a movie. I think that's how comic book movie adaptations, especially for titles such at this, should be made.

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Old Jul 17, 2008, 05:02 PM Local time: Jul 17, 2008, 10:02 PM #5 of 68
I'm not hot stuff on graphic novels, but fuck; Watchmen is one of the most incredible things I've ever read. I'm not sure if this looks like it's going to do it justice. It looks great, but the comic's various narrative techniques don't really make the jump to film well...

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Old Jul 17, 2008, 06:48 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2008, 01:48 AM #6 of 68
I've got my Bullshit Bingo card ready for inane comments about this movie.

Me, I think it'll be fine. If you're ready to cut it some slack in terms of ADAPTING the source material for another medium, and another time. Though I doubt that Watchmen could possibly work taken out of the 80s.

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Old Jul 17, 2008, 07:02 PM #7 of 68
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Old Jul 17, 2008, 07:10 PM #8 of 68
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Old Jul 17, 2008, 08:04 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2008, 01:04 AM #9 of 68
Me, I think it'll be fine. If you're ready to cut it some slack in terms of ADAPTING the source material for another medium, and another time. Though I doubt that Watchmen could possibly work taken out of the 80s.
At least we've known for some time that it's set in the eighties. The guy playing Nixon is wearing a full face prosthetic for the role.

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Old Jul 18, 2008, 03:41 AM Local time: Jul 18, 2008, 01:41 AM #10 of 68
Owlman... a badass? LAUGH.

It looks damned good visually, not sure how the adaptation will pan out.

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Old Jul 18, 2008, 03:53 AM Local time: Jul 18, 2008, 02:53 AM #11 of 68
It looks damned good visually, not sure how the adaptation will pan out.
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Old Jul 18, 2008, 03:58 AM Local time: Jul 18, 2008, 01:58 AM #12 of 68
Dreams. Don't. Die.

(They just get movie adaptations and become nightmares)

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Old Jul 18, 2008, 05:47 AM Local time: Jul 18, 2008, 02:47 AM #13 of 68
This trailer could have been better than The Dark Knight itself.

I'm really looking forward to this.

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Old Jul 18, 2008, 06:04 AM Local time: Jul 18, 2008, 05:04 AM #14 of 68
This trailer could have been better than The Dark Knight itself.


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Old Aug 20, 2008, 01:14 AM 1 #15 of 68
Fox seeks to stop WB's Watchmen after court win

Seeing this made me a tad anxious. After being (for lack of a better term) blown away by the graphic novel, it took a while for me to accept the idea of a movie. The more I learned about the movie, however, the more I began looking forward to it... so having it stopped from ever being released AFTER they've already made it seems a bit ridiculous.

Fox could have stopped WB from making the movie at the beginning. Do you think this dick move by Fox is going to pan out, and stop the Watchmen from ever hitting the big screen?

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Old Aug 20, 2008, 12:18 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2008, 09:18 AM 2 #16 of 68
Fox seeks to stop WB's Watchmen after court win

Seeing this made me a tad anxious. After being (for lack of a better term) blown away by the graphic novel, it took a while for me to accept the idea of a movie. The more I learned about the movie, however, the more I began looking forward to it... so having it stopped from ever being released AFTER they've already made it seems a bit ridiculous.

Fox could have stopped WB from making the movie at the beginning. Do you think this dick move by Fox is going to pan out, and stop the Watchmen from ever hitting the big screen?
Now I'm not as familiar with the movie business as some (Denicalis), but from what I know of huge corporations in the software industry, what Fox wants is this:



and doesn't give two shits either way about:



So likely, WB will pay Fox the money and the movie will be released later.

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Old Aug 20, 2008, 05:16 PM #17 of 68
Fox should get the rights to release it on Blu-ray. At least we'd get a DTS-HD MA track and a faithful transfer, not a 640kpbs piece of crap with NR up the ass.

Actually, the movie simply looks terrible. Plastic ass characters on blue fire for two hours. Pass.

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Old Nov 14, 2008, 05:57 AM #18 of 68
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new trailer out. not liking Rorschach's voice. not liking manhattan's voice. visually snyder seems to have pinned something down, but there's still something missing.

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Old Nov 15, 2008, 05:00 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2008, 06:00 AM #19 of 68
Rorschach's voice sounds like Bale on Dark Knight. I guess it works for Rorschach. And after seeing this trailer, I'm now VERY excited to see the movie. Squid or no squid.

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Old Nov 16, 2008, 12:49 AM #20 of 68
I was more excited after seeing the first trailer. This one was ok, I'll have to give it another watch soon. Manhattan's voice is DEFINITELY different than what I imagined, but only a few words were said by him, and it wasnt his usual maze of choice words. Rorschach... I think it works for him when his mask is on. Was I the only one who read it and almost heard his voice change (to an emotionless, nerd-like voice) during the scenes when his mask was off?

Either way, I'm still excited to see the movie. I like everything I've seen so far, except for a few of the moments in the last trailer where it went to slow motion. I really hope that he changes that style from 300, and it isnt a constant.

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Old Mar 6, 2009, 04:33 AM Local time: Mar 6, 2009, 03:33 AM 1 #21 of 68
Actually, the movie simply looks terrible. Plastic ass characters on blue fire for two hours. Pass.
I just got back from seeing this, and Megalith's comment pretty much hits the nail on the head. The film starts off very promising, bright colors, good direction, and then degresses over the next two and a half hours into a moddled, grey-tinged mess of a film that I couldn't give a shit about. They exaggerated the action and dumbed down the interesting bits and tried to make everything look gloomy and in the process completely missed the point of all of the original artwork. So, really, it's exactly what everyone who read the comic figured this would probably be. I've heard talk of how they filmed extra bits that are in the comic that aren't in the theatrical version that will make the DVD, but that doesn't matter. The story edit they have works fine, the real problem is the art direction on this, and that's not something you can fix with deleted scenes. A let-down for me, but my friends who haven't read the comic had a kinder opinion.

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Old Mar 6, 2009, 05:41 AM Local time: Mar 6, 2009, 11:41 AM #22 of 68
I don't know...the director has already planned 2 director's cuts already. He just doesn't seem to know HOW he wants to adapt a comic. I don't think it'll be a horrible film, but if you take a comic book, put it on to film and try to tell it like a comic book without taking the time and care to really adapt it, it'll never be more than mediocre I think.

That said, should be a good popcorn flick though.

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Old Mar 7, 2009, 02:07 AM Local time: Mar 7, 2009, 01:07 AM #23 of 68
Just got back from it (saw it on the IMAX screen), and I really enjoyed it. Great eye candy treat for anyone who's read the graphic novel (some really graphic violence, especially when Dr. Manhattan's killing). The music selection was really good, such as the "Ride of the Valkyries" for when Dr. Manhattan was taking out the vietcong, and "Hallelujah" for Nite Owl and Silk Spectre's love scene (haha, both scenes gave me a good chuckle). The only thing I didn't like was My Chemical Romance's cover of "Desolation Row" for the credits, that was just all noise, they should have stuck with the original.

Something that really struck me was how Jackie Haley's Walter Kovacs looked so much like his comic/novel counterpart, it was dead on IMO, like straight from the pages. The only thing that bugged me was how he kept with the Batman voice after being unmasked. I was kinda expecting him to play down the voice a little when he was Kovacs. But then we're told/reminded, that Kovacs was no more when he found the dead little girl, which I guess kinda explains why his voice stayed consistently that way.

Regarding the ending
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Although I kind of miss the Kraken's appearance at the end, I thought the change they made worked out pretty well. In the end, Dr. Manhanttan decides to leaves earth anyway and now him being the scapegoat for the attacks just provides another reason for why he does.
They trimmed/altered/omitted quite a few things, such as that whole little side story with the pschiatrist (him becoming more and more obsessed with Kovac's), as well as the thing with the newstand vendor and the kid with the comic (but I've read that the plan is to re-edit this part, along with the Black Frieghter segment, back into the movie for the DVD release). The killing of Hollis Mason was removed as well (hopefully it's added back too). I can understand why they did it, but would have been nice to included it as well.

Now I wanna read the novel again, to see what changes were made.

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Old Mar 7, 2009, 02:40 AM #24 of 68
To be honest, I never had the opportunity to read the novel. :/ I'd love to, though. Especially now that I've seen the movie.

Despite not having read the book, I have to say I really enjoyed the movie. I loved the scenes in the prison with Rorschach:
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Old Mar 7, 2009, 12:43 PM Local time: Mar 7, 2009, 12:43 PM #25 of 68
They exaggerated the action and dumbed down the interesting bits
Saw this at a midnight showing, and generally agree with this segment of your comment, if not the overall feeling about the film. Compared to what could have been done to this film, I was pleasantly surprised by how tightly they stuck to the framing, artwork, and pacing of the film. The vast majority of sequences happened in exactly the same manner as they did in the book, which I thought was a positive. Perhaps my expectations were actually too low, but I was braced for a standard Hollywood treatment, where they think they know better than Moore and completely rewrite the book. In my opinion, it was akin to Lord of the Rings. They made an effort to be true to the book, and I appreciate that the effort was there, even if their perception of the book colored the final result with greys.
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Obviously, no squid, as has been known for a while in the leaked info, but I didn't mind the change, even though the squid did have a meaning in the original book. Much like LotR, I can understand the removal of "The Black Freighter", as that much meta-narrative would drag the pacing to a standstill. And I thought the newspaper salesman, and the little kid hugging right before the end was a nice touch, even if it was out of context.

The exaggeration of the action was a bit much, although it wouldn't have been nearly so jarring if the gal playing Silk Spectre hadn't kept posing in every scene. Going through a doorway? Pose. Judo chop. Pose.

Still, in the end I think Pang's old comment was about right. It was as good as a movie adaptation could be expected to be.

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The music selection was really good
Didn't see this before, but this was the one thing that I thought was sub-par about the whole experience. Personally, it just felt like they were trying too hard with the music to tell you what emotion you were supposed to be feeling. Ride of the Valkyries in Apocalypse Now had a well integrated story point with a callback to Wagner. In this, it was just parody and a marker for "Audience, this is Vietnam."

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