Trying to stop suicidal friend, medical issue

So I feel like my time is running out here, but I also feel like I've done the most I could, minus calling the cops to restrain him.

My friend has been off his medication for awhile that, in a sense, keep him sane. I spent 5hours talking to him yesterday (over the internet) trying to make him take his medication. It got to the point where he just continuously rabbled on about how everyone is against him, but that he's a bad person too, etc etc etc. Everything was hinting that he'd die soon, basically.

I knew after awhile not to listen, because he's contradicting himself everywhere and is obviously suffering from a lack of proper judgment based on not taking his medication.

I caught him in all his contradictions, gave him the best reasoning, but he won't listen anymore, just talks. I called up a mutual friend who lives close to him to go over and talk him into taking his medication, I currently live too far away, so I can't do this myself. He can't do make him do it out of force though, because the guy is 35 and pretty damn big (not as in unfit big).

So if our mutual friend can't convince him to take his medication, what is there left to do? Call the cops to restrain him before he kills himself?

This is a huge burden on me right now. I have 2 midterms I need to study for now, and now my friend wants to kill himself and leave his daughter. I'm his only "real" friend in a sense and he's putting all these death request and wills onto my shoulder, making me feel like I'm his last hope.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Try to convince him to go voluntarily commit himself, and if that doesn't work then contact the police and have him sectioned. Either way he should be safe from himself in an institution.

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Originally Posted by kinkymagic

Try to convince him to go voluntarily commit himself, and if that doesn't work then contact the police and have him sectioned.

Absolutely right. While its nice of you to take it upon yourself to help him, it isn't your burden to carry alone. This guy needs more help than you're able to give.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Something almost exactly like this happened to me once. He kept on talking about how bad his life was, how everyone hated him, how he was going to do it, when he would do it (soon), and what he would do if someone tried to stop him. I ended up calling the cops in his town and they took him in. A few months later he got back online and thanked me.

I think in your situation calling the police would be the right course of action if it seems that he is imminently ready to kill himself.

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I just called his house to talk to his mom since she's home. I haven't seen my friend in about 2months, so I figure it'd be a good idea to talk to someone who sees him in person everyday.

She told she'd sneak his meds into his food. When he's back into his "normal" self we could talk to him seriously. I don't know how much of a good idea this is though, since it's not voluntary that he's taking his medicine, so I don't know how much of an effect it may cause. Also, I feel like we'd be going in circles. I don't think his mother wants to take any drastic action yet though. I could go against her wishes and call the police myself though.

I've known him for about 3 years now, and he's been off his meds before, but never for this long, before his reactions weren't as bad and he just eventually went back on them. This time just feels different.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Ok, just an update on this.

I convinced his mother to call the cops since he's gotten really bad lately. 2 cops and some suicidal prevention team picked him up. He goes to some medical ward now for weekdays, and is free to go on weekends.

I suppose that's progress, except now whenever he's home, he goes on facebook and his blog, and someone keeps encouraging his delusions and theories of deceit. I have no idea who it is, but she seems to be one of those people who think they understand the entire world after taking a highschool philosophy class.

"I told you so many times but you never believed me. They have been deceiving you for so long and now you have proof of that, yet, somewhere in the back of your mind you are still hoping that I am wrong. Good to see you back."

Ok.... his mom needs to cut his internet, or someone needs to punch that girl.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Someone does need to punch that girl. It's good to see your friend is getting some help. Any help is better than none.

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Wow, that's very sad to hear, and even more disturbing to hear that someone is saying pro-suicide stuff to him. That person needs to go away, and in turn your friends needs friends and people who love him.

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I've had some of those "friends," too. And, the thing is that they don't think of you, it's only about them. They can't see the picture that you're almost sacrificing your time and day for someone that hardly appreciates your attempt.

If you think you've done everything you have done for this person...you shouldn't feel like he is your burden.
He is fortunate to have someone like you. But, he needs to help himself if he is going to improve. You can't do everything for him.

I said "had" friends like that because it came to the point that one morning I woke up and said fuck it. I have to think of myself because no one else is doing it.
It doesn't matter what other people say, "that you're a bad friend."...they don't know that you did everything that you could.
And, if there are people that talk like that...they should have been the ones to comfort them, and not be the judge.

But, like I said earlier. I told myself I need to think of myself too. So I completely cut off the connection. There are some people that just want the attention. My one friend still calls me, and I don't answer because of all the time I wasted and I will never get back.
♥ : )
But, I know you know the right choice. There's a fine line of helping, but if he doesn't appreciate it and won't thank you for it. Just let it go. Then they will learn the mistake of losing a true friend for their selfishness. Don't let your friend ruin your concentration with the midterms and other things. : ) ♥

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by LemonMop

I've had some of those "friends," too. And, the thing is that they don't think of you, it's only about them. They can't see the picture that you're almost sacrificing your time and day for someone that hardly appreciates your attempt.

If you think you've done everything you have done for this person...you shouldn't feel like he is your burden.
He is fortunate to have someone like you. But, he needs to help himself if he is going to improve. You can't do everything for him.

I said "had" friends like that because it came to the point that one morning I woke up and said fuck it. I have to think of myself because no one else is doing it.
It doesn't matter what other people say, "that you're a bad friend."...they don't know that you did everything that you could.
And, if there are people that talk like that...they should have been the ones to comfort them, and not be the judge.

But, like I said earlier. I told myself I need to think of myself too. So I completely cut off the connection. There are some people that just want the attention. My one friend still calls me, and I don't answer because of all the time I wasted and I will never get back.
♥ : )
But, I know you know the right choice. There's a fine line of helping, but if he doesn't appreciate it and won't thank you for it. Just let it go. Then they will learn the mistake of losing a true friend for their selfishness. Don't let your friend ruin your concentration with the midterms and other things. : ) ♥

Ah, thank you for your kind words .

He's been taken away to a mental health facility awhile ago when the suicide prevention team arrived at his door. He spent about a month there and now he's out and taking his meds voluntarily now and is back on his feet for the most part. He still is depressed and such, but he is also seeking help regularly so the situation is a lot better. Makes me happy that I won't have to worry about attending his funeral anytime soon.

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