Executive Decisions

I've reached the breaking point. Over the past few years, I began noticing my mom making some decisions without consulting anyone. She rearranges the kitchen every few months. She got tile for the kitchen floor to be redone. She bought some piece of furniture that is used for storage purposes. She decided we needed a new oven and fridge. She replaced several of the dishes. She adopted (not in a legal sense) a kitten from next door. She was the one who decided what to change my sister's room into after my sister left for college (although now she's back, but the room remains the same). She changed the kind of toothpaste we use until I told to change it back, using dentist's orders to support myself. These are just examples that come to mind while typing this. Today, due to the soon-to-rise cost of AOL, she bought a five-month plan with People PC. There was no waiting until everyone was home to have a discussion. She just did it.

Am I wrong to think this unfair? Am I wrong to think that she's out of line here? Do any of you have to deal with similar people? I swear, I'm so angry, I can't talk.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yeah it must suck that despite paying an equal share of the bills you don't get consulted about every little thing.

You had better learn to deal with it, because when you get out into the real world and get a full-time job, you're most likely going to have a boss, and like it or not, your boss gets to make decisions about things, and sometimes you will disagree with the decision made.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Acro-nym

Am I wrong to think this unfair? Am I wrong to think that she's out of line here? Do any of you have to deal with similar people? I swear, I'm so angry, I can't talk.

Yup, you're wrong. It is in no way unfair. When you start paying rent, buying food, paying the bills, etc. then you might be able to have some say in what's going on. Otherwise, suck it up and enjoy the new kitten.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

But, in most cases, but dad doesn't even get a say. He's the one that provides the income for the family. She doesn't even work! (Although she's trying to fix that.)

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Then I would say that this is your father's war to wage. Best you could do I guess would be to try to incite him into raging about it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Then maybe he's okay with it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I only get annoyed when my dad barges into my room when I'm getting dressed after a shower and when I yell at him to knock first, he replies, "this is my house, I'll knock when I feel like it."

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Acro-nym

I've reached the breaking point. Over the past few years, I began noticing my mom making some decisions without consulting anyone. She rearranges the kitchen every few months. She got tile for the kitchen floor to be redone. She bought some piece of furniture that is used for storage purposes. She decided we needed a new oven and fridge. She replaced several of the dishes. She adopted (not in a legal sense) a kitten from next door. She was the one who decided what to change my sister's room into after my sister left for college (although now she's back, but the room remains the same). She changed the kind of toothpaste we use until I told to change it back, using dentist's orders to support myself. These are just examples that come to mind while typing this. Today, due to the soon-to-rise cost of AOL, she bought a five-month plan with People PC. There was no waiting until everyone was home to have a discussion. She just did it.

Am I wrong to think this unfair? Am I wrong to think that she's out of line here? Do any of you have to deal with similar people? I swear, I'm so angry, I can't talk.

Your mom probably does most of those things out of boredom. I mean, she's a stay at home mom right? She has to find something to do, because she's not raising kids anymore. It's not all that bad. It's just a lot of the little things that make you go crazy. Tell her to get a hobby.

Originally Posted by Tenacious D

I only get annoyed when my dad barges into my room when I'm getting dressed after a shower and when I yell at him to knock first, he replies, "this is my house, I'll knock when I feel like it."

You can two things to get him to quit. First, is bust in on him and reply with his same smart-ass reply of "I'll knock when I feel like it". Second is just to walk around naked. Nothing will horrify your family more. If anyone asks just say, "Well, dad keeps barging in on me so I thought I'd show the whole family.". Although that option requires a indifference to modesty on your part.

One of those options is bound to work.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

The only problem is my dad gets undressed with his door open anyway. I find it to be disgusting, but apparently "it's nothing I haven't seen before and we are family so what does it matter."

I guess I could consider walking around naked, but I don't think my mom or sister would appreciate that too much.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Tenacious D

The only problem is my dad gets undressed with his door open anyway. I find it to be disgusting, but apparently "it's nothing I haven't seen before and we are family so what does it matter."

I guess I could consider walking around naked, but I don't think my mom or sister would appreciate that too much.

Okay, strike out on the first option then.

Second option; that works to your advantage. So your mother and sister bug your father to respect your privacy.

Which leads to my third option. Stop caring about your father walking in on you. Seriously, you've walked naked around the house now! What's there to really care about? Umm barricade your door.... Throw something at him? Uhh I'm out of ideas.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Once again, russ nails it. This is your parents' house to do with as they please. When you grow up, move out and start supporting yourself, your home will be your castle and you can do whatever you want. Until then, just be thankful you have parents who provide for you.

As far as the kitchen goes, in most homes that's sort of the woman's domain. I can tell you that I don't ask a damn soul before I make changes in my kitchen, since I'm the one who does all the cooking and a lot of the cleaning.

Although I do think that your dad should have a say in matters, unless they have some sort of understanding between the two of them that she makes all the decisions about household matters.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Watts

Second is just to walk around naked. Nothing will horrify your family more. If anyone asks just say, "Well, dad keeps barging in on me so I thought I'd show the whole family.". Although that option requires a indifference to modesty on your part.

Interesting suggestion, though I wouldn't try it myself.

Edit: Actually, you could try locking the door.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by My Dreams

Interesting suggestion, though I wouldn't try it myself.

Edit: Actually, you could try locking the door.

I'm pretty sure that if his dad keep's barging in he doesn't have a lock.... so uhh I had to be creative.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Acro-nym

Am I wrong to think this unfair? Am I wrong to think that she's out of line here? Do any of you have to deal with similar people? I swear, I'm so angry, I can't talk.

Many will say that since she pays the bills (or whoever does) and you don't, she can do whatever she wants. Legally, she can. That doesn't necessarily mean she's not being an ass about it and is justified in being an ass about it.

However, what I don't get is why these things annoy you. She buys new things consistently and makes intelligent choices, but you seem to be upset about it. I could see if she made extreme decisions, but all of the things you mentioned sound pretty inconsequential to me. I'd kill to have a new stove in our house; ours is about as old as I am. I wouldn't expect my mother to consult the family and ask for our permission to get a new stove, as it doesn't concern me so long as it produces enough heat to fry and bake food.

Can you explain why you're getting upset over such little things? New fridge not as spacious as the last?

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The main reason, I guess, as to why I get upset is because it seems to be unnecessary spending. We could be putting money towards more important things like fixing the deck or re-carpeting the downstairs or just plain having more money in the savings account for bill-paying and whatnot.

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Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland

Once again, russ nails it. This is your parents' house to do with as they please. When you grow up, move out and start supporting yourself, your home will be your castle and you can do whatever you want. Until then, just be thankful you have parents who provide for you.

As far as the kitchen goes, in most homes that's sort of the woman's domain. I can tell you that I don't ask a damn soul before I make changes in my kitchen, since I'm the one who does all the cooking and a lot of the cleaning.

Although I do think that your dad should have a say in matters, unless they have some sort of understanding between the two of them that she makes all the decisions about household matters.

I agree with Russ and Alice and whomever else said something similar.

Your parents pay the bills. Unless you're contributing, then you don't really get a say. I know it can be a real pisser sometimes - I've been there too. I am sure we all were at points. Especially when you want the frilly prom dress or the fancy new car and the new stove is more important.

If you can get a job and contribute financially to the household, you should get a say. But as far as your mother being the head of the household - its her house. You're her son and you can give your input, but she doesn't have to listen to it.

Don't worry. You'll get your own place someday and you can do with it what you want! But until you're on your own, and you're living with your folks, its one of the many sacrifices to be made.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Acro-nym

The main reason, I guess, as to why I get upset is because it seems to be unnecessary spending. We could be putting money towards more important things like fixing the deck or re-carpeting the downstairs or just plain having more money in the savings account for bill-paying and whatnot.

I bet you might be a little anxious about paying for that college education too eh?

You have to understand where your mother is coming from though. No children to raise, and life in the suburbs is tough. It's a constant competition.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

Your parents pay the bills. Unless you're contributing, then you don't really get a say.

Yeah, because it's not like he/she's actually apart of the family... right?

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Originally Posted by Watts

Yeah, because it's not like he/she's actually apart of the family... right?

Uh. No one is denying that. But the kids don't really get a say on the finances. Since, you know, they have no idea.

Parents are parents for a reason.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

Uh. No one is denying that. But the kids don't really get a say on the finances. Since, you know, they have no idea.

Parents are parents for a reason.

I don't consider sixteen+ years old a kid. That's about the time you should be learning to be a responsible adult, and treated as such.

I also think that the original poster has a pretty good idea about things that could be done that should be shared with his/her parents.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I don't care if you're 30 and still living at home. It is NOT your home. It's your parents' home, and you are living in it while they raise you. Then, when you become an adult (at age 15 or 50, it doesn't matter), you will leave THEIR home and get one of your own.

Not everything that goes on within a family is or should be a family decision. Children should be consulted about some things, but not about how the parents spend THEIR OWN MONEY.

And probably, the reason you don't consider a 16-year-old to be a kid is because you are one. I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but 16 years olds ARE kids.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Watts

I don't consider sixteen+ years old a kid. That's about the time you should be learning to be a responsible adult, and treated as such.

I also think that the original poster has a pretty good idea about things that could be done that should be shared with his/her parents.

You're still a kid, aren't you.

I said the same fucking thing when I was 16. By the way, 16 IS a kid. LEGALLY. You can't sign a motherfucking contract when you're 16. You are not legally responsible for SHIT. Thats why theres JUVENILE court. Thats why your parents are responsible for your ACTIONS until you're 18.

You're an adult when you turn 18, and EVEN THEN, you're not the hot shot you think you are.

Being older now, I know I wouldn't want my fucking kids telling me what to do with the family money when they don't even have a job or they aren't contributing at fucking all. Get a job, contribute.

Damnit, Alice beats me to the punch AGAIN.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland

I don't care if you're 30 and still living at home. It is NOT your home. It's your parents' home, and you are living in it while they raise you. Then, when you become an adult (at age 15 or 50, it doesn't matter), you will leave THEIR home and get one of your own.

Not everything that goes on within a family is or should be a family decision. Children should be consulted about some things, but not about how the parents spend THEIR OWN MONEY.

Just what do you think a family is anyway? If anybody in a family has a idea for the family you should be "allowed" to make it known to everyone in the family. Does that mean you'll get your own way? No. Does that mean an additional viewpoint might be put under consideration? I surely hope so.

Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland

And probably, the reason you don't consider a 16-year-old to be a kid is because you are one. I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but 16 years olds ARE kids.

Not even close. Unlike your parents, my parents could trust me to make my own decisions at that age.

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass

You're still a kid, aren't you.

I said the same fucking thing when I was 16. By the way, 16 IS a kid. LEGALLY. You can't sign a motherfucking contract when you're 16. You are not legally responsible for SHIT. Thats why theres JUVENILE court. Thats why your parents are responsible for your ACTIONS until you're 18.

At sixteen you're allowed to get a driver's license that puts YOUR LIFE in danger and everybody else's life in danger on the road. I hope your parents thought you were enough of an adult to handle that. Otherwise you had no place behind the wheel.

Just because your maturity was retarded doesn't mean mine had to be either.

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Originally Posted by Watts

Just what do you think a family is anyway? If anybody in a family has a idea for the family you should be "allowed" to make it known to everyone in the family. Does that mean you'll get your own way? No. Does that mean an additional viewpoint might be put under consideration? I surely hope so.

You really think decisions should be left up to the kids in a family? Or that they should have an equal say as the parents?

I am AFRAID of what your kids will turn out like.

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Not even close. Unlike your parents, my parents could trust me to make my own decisions at that age.

I'm glad your parents left you to fend for yourself at age 16. Those are awesome parents, dude!

Originally Posted by Watts

At sixteen you're allowed to get a driver's license that puts YOUR LIFE in danger and everybody else's life in danger on the road. I hope your parents thought you were enough of an adult to handle that. Otherwise you had no place behind the wheel.

YEA, WOW, A LICENSE! AND you can fight a war!

But you can't legally sign a contract. You can't buy anything without a cosigner. You can't do SHIT, kid. If you'd like to argue this with me FURTHER about the things you can and cant do as a LEGAL MINOR, I have years and years or experience with it.

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Just because your maturity was retarded doesn't mean mine has to be either.

Believe me, kid. I learned a HELL of a lot more than any 16 year old should EVER learn by the time I got there.

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass

You really think decisions should be left up to the kids in a family? Or that they should have an equal say as the parents

No, I just said that it should be put under consideration. Try reading everything.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

I'm glad your parents left you to fend for yourself at age 16. Those are awesome parents, dude!

When did I ever say that?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Watts

No, I just said that it should be put under consideration. Try reading everything.

I did. You seem to think that kids in a family have a say about finances.

Which is laughable. Unless, like I SAID, they contribute.

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When did I ever say that?

You made it pretty clear you could "make your own decisions" at age 16. Which is ALSO laughable beyond comprehension.

Maybe you got to chose what color underwear you got to wear on the bus ride to sophomore English class?

Jam it back in, in the dark.