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FallDragon
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Old Oct 23, 2006, 08:30 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2006, 03:30 AM #1 of 21
Arguments

When you're in the middle of heated argument and you suddenly realize you're likely wrong, do you yield to the other person or do continue arguing hoping it'll end up in a stalemate or fizzle into nothing? Do you readily admit to being wrong when you realize it? For myself, I used to consistently argue to the bitter end until it'd fizzle, but over the past few months I've been much more accepting of things I'm ignorant on or need correction on. I'm finding that even though it's somewhat humiliating to admit ignorance or defeat, it's better to be honest with yourself.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 08:38 PM #2 of 21
That actually happened earlier today. I always keep arguing, then get really frustrated and give up on the whole argument. Usually by that time most of my points have been refuted and I want to do everything I can to save at least some of my dignity. I'm a very sore loser.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 08:51 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2006, 08:51 PM #3 of 21
These days, I usually let it go if I realize I am wrong or whatever. I little humilation is probably good for me anyway. Then again, I don't really care if I am humiliated. Its nice to see the other perspective sometimes.

But if I know I am right, I do not let it go. I make sure I keep fighting, and if they don't want to understand or respect my side of things, then whatever.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 09:06 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2006, 07:06 PM #4 of 21
If I know I'm not on the correct side of the argument, I'll concede the point. I may wind up looking somewhat like an idiot, but that is a small price to pay for preventing myself from sputtering out random nonsense and making myself look even more ridiculous.

I'm not confrontational in arguments unless I have a strong idea of what I'm getting into.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 09:12 PM #5 of 21
Wrong? NEVER!

Seriously, though, I'm not in many arguments. And even in the ones I've had there wasn't a whole lot of fact being thrown around. Usually the arguments are with my brother. With his bizarre logic, it's hard to determine if I'm right. In his mind I'm wrong. In mine I'm right. He's probably the reason I avoid arguments.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Oct 23, 2006, 09:55 PM #6 of 21
I have a really hard time admitting that I'm wrong in the middle of an argument. I'm finding it's usually around a half hour later that I begin to accept that I was mistaken. I do however make a point of apologizing and officially conceding the point. I don't just let it rest.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Oct 23, 2006, 10:25 PM #7 of 21
I usually keep arguing my point until the other person thinks I was right or they think that they were looking at my perspective in the wrong light. If I'm flat out wrong, then I admit it... but if I can convince them otherwise, then I'll try. It's always fun to mess with someone's mind:biggrin:

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 10:45 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2006, 07:45 PM #8 of 21
I remember trying to always prove my point when I was younger. As I grew older, I gradually found myself stopping immediately after I realized that I was wrong. I don't typically get into many arguments with anyone too much anymore. Sometimes if I know that the other person is stubborn, I just back off completely.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 11:27 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2006, 04:27 AM #9 of 21
I'm pretty good at standing my point even if I realise I'm wrong, so I keep arguing until my opponent gives up. Rarely does that have to be the case, though.

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 12:02 AM Local time: Oct 23, 2006, 09:02 PM #10 of 21
Every single time I'm ever in an argument with someone whether I'm right or wrong, I'll keep going on and on till I get into some sort of gigantic fight over it. It's really more trouble than it's worth...

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 09:44 AM Local time: Oct 24, 2006, 02:44 PM #11 of 21
Arguements are a weird one once I realise I'm wrong personally I'll usually admit it although to be honest I rarely get in arguement where I'm not as I rarely have reason to ^^;

*reads Yamamanama's link* lol I'm guilty of using some of those... although some of these like where you just repeat what you say or interupt them are not arguements... that's just acting like a kid asking to get a punch on the nose XD

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 10:12 AM #12 of 21
Well, when I argue, I try to get the other person to understand my point of view and what I was thinking, and I try to understand why they thought what they did. I don't just aimlessly shout my position until the other side backs down and I win. So if I do realize I'm wrong, then yeah, I'll accept the other side, and maybe explain to the other person why I thought wrong.

My mom will argue anything, and she will argue to the death until she wins the argument, ignoring any basic logic that exists. I absolutely hate that about her, and it is why I try my hardest to never do that to other people.

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 11:02 AM Local time: Oct 25, 2006, 12:02 AM #13 of 21
I try not to get into arguements and if I do I'm normally right. (haha, just kidding!) Sometimes when I'm wrong I'll try to steer the arguement in such a way such that we both can agree on disagreeing (to save some face). At other times I'll just admit it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 01:03 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2006, 07:03 PM #14 of 21
When I get into an argument and I realise that I'm wrong, I tend to still argue my point, unless I realise that I am so wrong that it would be stupid of me to try and convince the other person(s) in the argument otherwise.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Oct 24, 2006, 04:06 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2006, 09:06 PM #15 of 21
It depends on how angry I am. If I've worked myself into a frenzy over the dispute then I usually plough on through my stupidity until the other person gives in, but mostly I'll try and bring up something else to cover my tracks.

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 06:41 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2006, 03:41 PM #16 of 21
I don't usually argue, since most of the people I know tend to be somewhat stubborn, and trying to convince them that they're wrong is usually pretty futile.

I'll admit if I was incorrect, though.

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 07:48 PM #17 of 21
if you admit, than people will have more respect for you. Sometimes though, you may be right, but you just don't have the backing or proof. I like to use everything as a learning experience

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 07:58 PM #18 of 21
I go berserk if I know I am right. I just give in if I know if I am wrong.

I don't liek to argue that much, arguing makes people remember those "postive" expriences you had with them. Than one day... they won't help me when I need their help.:juggler:

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Old Oct 25, 2006, 06:58 AM Local time: Oct 25, 2006, 08:28 AM #19 of 21
The only heated arguments I ever get in to would be with my mom or brother.... it only esculates in to a argument when I KNOW that I am right. If i suddenly realize I am wrong in the middle of it, I suddenly laugh it off and say sorry. I am not very serious depending on the arguement.

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Old Oct 26, 2006, 03:59 AM Local time: Oct 26, 2006, 02:59 AM #20 of 21
Heh. Yamamanama: I don't find that persuasiveness article very tactful to common courtousy. The person who wrote it doesn't seem very sensible or open minded about the modes of persuasiveness. Though, there still are some interesting points in there. A lot of it seems to be the cheap way to win an argument, perhaps if the methods of use were not so much the dirty examples he gives, then it should be useful. I think.

Anyhow,

Now a days I've been hanging out over at a friend's house a lot lately. I get to experience how my buddy, 19 years old, argues with his siblings (younger brother, 16, younger sister 14) and often time I'm in the middle of these arguments and I often struggle to put my own word in to resolve things between them. His brother is a very stubborn arguer, and even after you explain to him why he is wrong, he doesn't understand, and reiterates his terms a little bit differently. It's kind of annoying. Recently, my buddy and I had to tell him that we needed to define terms, for example, the term "Appreciate" in his argument that one can't appreciaite something if one dislikes it as well. It was kind of nauseating, the whole thing. My buddy and I argued with him that you can dislike something and still appreciate it. But I'm afraid his brother's definition of dislike was too harsh towards his understanding of disliking and appreciating.

I hang out with these two pretty often, we go to the local arcade often and play Magic every now and then. I find my situation delightful, of my presence for his younger brother, and his sister included. When they get into arguments, I like to shed some light onto each side with a new light of reason. I try my best to be a good role model for My bud's siblings.

Uhm, rant. Usually, I only argue things I know I'm right about, or I argue until I understand that I'm wrong. I don't yell. I usually keep my cool. And when persuading others, I like to ask unique questions that put the other in my own scenario to see where they stand.

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