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Old Aug 16, 2006, 01:17 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 08:17 PM #1 of 14
Pixalization on TV's

I hope this is the right place to post this:

Anyway, I have just recently burned my first DVD's because I didn't like the quality of the homemade ones off ebay.

In those dark areas like a forest at night there is very little pixalization on my regular bubble TV which is very tolerable, but when I play it on my familys' Flat screen tv it looks really horrible.

I was debating on buying a flat panel TV when i move out, will the pixalization be worse on the flat panel (probably LCD) than on the flat screen?

Oh and why is the pixalization so much worse on the flat screen compared to the bubble screen?

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 01:19 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 11:19 PM #2 of 14
Is it an LCD or a "flat tube" TV?

TV's run at a significantly lower resolution than an LCD screen, which could account for the heavy pixelization issues you're experiencing.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 01:29 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 08:29 PM #3 of 14
I'm gonna say LCD TV

so what you are saying then is that the pixalization will be greatly diminished with a LCD TV?

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 01:36 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 11:36 PM #4 of 14
No, it will be less noticable on a "Tube TV," which is (I assume) what you called a "bubble" TV. An LCD screen is higher in resolution, which means low-resolution video is more noticable on it.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 01:37 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 11:37 PM #5 of 14
Originally Posted by Cobra Commander
I hope this is the right place to post this:

Anyway, I have just recently burned my first DVD's because I didn't like the quality of the homemade ones off ebay.

In those dark areas like a forest at night there is very little pixalization on my regular bubble TV which is very tolerable, but when I play it on my familys' Flat screen tv it looks really horrible.

I was debating on buying a flat panel TV when i move out, will the pixalization be worse on the flat panel (probably LCD) than on the flat screen?

Oh and why is the pixalization so much worse on the flat screen compared to the bubble screen?

Did you burn an actual movie, or did you just put some movies found on the internet and slap them on a DVD? It could be compression depending on what kind of quality the DVD was in.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 01:53 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 08:53 PM #6 of 14
Well I burned a series onto DVD because the offical copies don't have english subs.

So you're saying that how horrible it looks on the Flat screen tv it would look even worse on an LCD TV?

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 01:56 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 11:56 PM #7 of 14
Yeah, generally LCDs display standard definition content like crap, and even more so if it's an HD LCD.

HD is the future though, so I would still recommend getting an HDTV. Get a good upscaling DVD player like the Oppo DV971H and the problems with playing DVDs should decrease tremendously.

You could also get a video processor to increase the quality of all signals sent to your TV, but those things are very fucking expensive, so I'd just recommend getting a nicer DVD player.

EDIT: If that content wasn't a full-on DVD rip with a decent codec or a simple disc image file, it'll probably be filled with compression artifacts, which show up more on LCDs as well.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 02:21 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 09:21 PM #8 of 14
Oh man that sucks. I really wanted to get an LCD TV flat panel TV because it was flat and light (so easy to move around) but since it shows the compression artifacts even more so than the flat screen TV my family currently has I dunno anymore.

Yeah it was not a full on DVD rip, though it was high quality at least on the laptop I have now.

Are there any ways I can turn the AVI files I have into DVD with very little compression artifacts in them?

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 04:35 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2006, 03:35 AM #9 of 14
Originally Posted by Cobra Commander
Are there any ways I can turn the AVI files I have into DVD with very little compression artifacts in them?
Sure, just don't compress the file at all. However, in your case, the files you have may already be crappy re-encodes. Your best bet is to do some research on either making your own rips, or find a quality source online. However, don't let crappy re-encoded DVD rips deter you from treating yourself to an awesome television. If I were you though, I'd wait and get an SED tv instead of an LCD. You can read about the badassness of SED tvs here: http://www.sed-tv.com/

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 04:52 AM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 11:52 PM #10 of 14
Wow, SED TV's seem really fricken great! Only problem looks like I iwll have to wait 2 years till I get my hands on one....also there is the cost to consider, I am sure its asking price is not going to be cheap.

But man it sure looks worth the wait, thanks for bringing this to my attention!

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 11:46 AM Local time: Aug 17, 2006, 10:46 AM #11 of 14
Cobra... Your problem is not the TV, it is the files you are making the DVD from. You said you have "AVI's" that you are putting on DVD and playing on these TVs. First of all, any AVIs you download are probably at small resolutions (say 320x240, or at most 720x400). When you put those pictures fullscreen on a 1280x720 LCDTV, it won't look great because you can see the flaws in the video. On a Tube TV that runs at 320x240 (480i) natively, its gonna look better. The inches (20" vs. 32" vs. 60") dont matter as much as the display resolution.

Basically it works the same way as cameras. If you have a crappy camera, you lose details, and someones face may look great. If you have great camera, it catches all the details, and then you see imperfections. It works the same way with TVs vs HDTVs. HDTV can reveal imperfections because it is higher quality, TV hide imperfections because the quality is so low.

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Are there any ways I can turn the AVI files I have into DVD with very little compression artifacts in them?
The answer is no. The AVI files themselves have the compression artifacts, but the transferring to DVD will only accentuate these artifacts. So I recommend getting new files, or dealing with the quality you have, or playing the AVI files directly onto the television (via PC->TV hook up, or AVI playing DVD player). Its just part of the deal. I have an HDTV LCD and some video just looks bad, but you learn to deal with it, and usually I choose not to watch crap video quality.

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 02:12 PM Local time: Aug 17, 2006, 09:12 AM #12 of 14
That was a big help Dayvon, guess I will just have to put up with it since I got those files from a friend and I think that is as high quality as it gets.

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 02:45 PM Local time: Aug 17, 2006, 01:45 PM #13 of 14
Yeah, you'll find more and more as you learn about encoding that most people online do a shitty job. It's rare to be able to find good releases of movies that have optimized resolution and bit rate. My brother is big on dling stuff and has finally devised his own method for doing DVD rips as he's fed up with poor quality rips.

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Old Aug 17, 2006, 03:52 PM Local time: Aug 17, 2006, 10:52 AM #14 of 14
Well I would do my own but as I said the offical releases have no english subs as they are japanese.

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