[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

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I have to disagree with that. I'd rather have the game not work at all than have it work with glaring errors. That's why all those games don't work for 360 yet. Because they haven't fixed it to where it won't have shit like random noises playing over static or "40 - 60% of the "pre-battle" transition screen appears black, and the remaining portion of the screen appears corrupted."

Maybe that's just me.

Yeah it is just you. I'd rather have an out of the box 90+% compatibility rate. Seriously, are you even reading the problems here? These are small problems that crop up some of the time at specific points of the game. What exactly are you expecting here? For Sony to throughly playtest every PS1 and PS2 game to make sure every aspect of every game works correctly?

Yeah let's hold up the release of the PS3 for six months so the engineers can work out that problem with the black box around Cloud in the ten year old FF7.

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Are any of you guys having the scaling issues? As in, 1080p games/content is downscaled to 480p when your TV can only accept 720p/1080i? I heard a bit about that and was wondering if that was a common issue.

Also, just a curious question here, how many of the PS3 owners here have HDTVs?

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The main issue I have is BluRay playback. Since my monitor has a native res of 1680x1050, I can't quite hit the 1080p mark (30 pixels off, ugh) so I run everything in 720p. Unfortunately, the PS3's BR playback is either 1080p or 480p, with no scaling up or down to fit my 720... So as a result, the quality looks about equal to a DVD, which is really unfortunate. Games, though, pretty much all have 720p resolutions and so I don't have issues there.

I technically have an "HDTV", which is a 20" widescreen monitor with DVI-D input. Things are definately more shiny than they would be on an SDTV though.

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Cobalt, does your monitor support HDCP? Or does the HDMI to DVI-D solution work for games and BluRay all the same (without HDCP)? I'm asking this because I'm planning to use a computer LCD display with my PS3 as well. People said the PS3 wouldn't display anything if the device didn't support HDCP (which is only supported by a small number of computer displays).

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No idea what HDCP is, so I can't help you there.

Just got Lemmings and played it a ton So much fun... Brought back good memories of playing the original on my Genesis back in the day. Things start getting even crazier once they start adding in teleporters, dim lighting where you have to light torches to see exactly what's going on (lightning also flashes periodically to light the way for a second), and then also cloning machines to aid in getting your quota.

The cool part is that you can see everyone else's progress on each level through means of the leader board. All it gives is bragging rights, but if you find some way to save either more Lemmings or complete the stage faster, you'll shoot up in the rankings. For one stage, most people had gotten 4-6 Lemmings saved, but I got 8 and with a faster time... so, for now, number 1 on that level I'm sure someone'll figure out a way to beat my score eventually.

Downloading the free level of Sudoku and then the Genji2 demo for kicks... if I don't fight a giant enemy crab, I'll be massively disappointed

I was speaking idiomatically.

You've got to get the MotorStorm demo too. I just played it today at EB and... *drewling*. I have a 360 hooked up to an HDTV and the only that's even come close that game would be Gears of War, however Gears didn't even have as far of a draw distance as that. Not only that but the gameplay was shear fun. Bit of a slowdown at the beginning of each race, but after that it's 60FPS all the way.

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I've had it since day one actually The downloadable Motorstorm demo is even better than the in-store one.

Tried Go! Sudoku, and for what it is (free sudoku puzzles with a rather flashy layout), it works fine. I ended up doubling the recommended time on the first puzzle, since I've never actually done sudoku before... so yeah. Apparently there's an online Versus and Battle modes, but no one had a room set up yet. The first several hundred puzzles are totally free though, so I see no reason why not to get it and just mull about figuring em out in spare time.

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Originally Posted by Cobalt Katze

No idea what HDCP is, so I can't help you there.

It's a digital copy protection for everything HD. The PS3 is supposed to use/support it by default over the HDMI port. If it's enabled for the game or movie, only display devices with HDCP support work.

The question is wether the PS3 has HDCP enabled by default or not. So if you're using a HDMI to DVI-D cable on a non-HDCP display, it means that the copy protection isn't being used at all.

Long story short: All I want to know is if I can just use a regular HDMI to DVI-D cable to connect the PS3 to my PC LCD monitor. I'm planning on using a 19" screen with a native resolution of 1280x1024 pixel, should be perfect for 720p.

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well I tried it and it didn't work for me. my monitor doesn't support HDCP and when I plug my hdmi->dvi cable and change the setting, i see my screen flash but I still get a black screen, so my guess is, if you don't have a monitor that support HDCP than you can't play your ps3 at all on it...

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Too bad. I was under the impression that Cobalt had his PS3 hooked up to a computer LCD via DVI-D. I don't think there are a lot of displays that support HDCP for DVI, though ...

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Originally Posted by Rock

Too bad. I was under the impression that Cobalt had his PS3 hooked up to a computer LCD via DVI-D. I don't think there are a lot of displays that support HDCP for DVI, though ...

There are, tons actually. Now, when you say display, you have to be mindful that this includes televisions. Computer monitors are a completely different area, in that manufacturers may need to get that shove from the rest of the industry to start making their DVI ports HDCP compliant. Graphics cards are already moving in that direction in order to output copyrighted HDDVD and Blu-Ray movies, so the display device itself should be the next on the line.

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I meant displays with DVI inputs. Never seen an actual television with DVI.

So PS3 and computer monitors are absolutely no go?

I'm still curious on what setup Cobalt is using, though.

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PS3 + HDMI->DVI cable + Dell 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor

Works fine.

I was speaking idiomatically.

your monitor support HDCP so that's why it work fine... mine don't so I bought a hdmi->dvi cable for nothing ; ;

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Originally Posted by Rock

I meant displays with DVI inputs. Never seen an actual television with DVI.

Haven't been looking too hard then, Rock. TVs equipped with HDCP compliant DVI inputs have been around for a few years now.

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So PS3 and computer monitors are absolutely no go?

I'm still curious on what setup Cobalt is using, though.

Certain Dell monitors are already on the HDCP bandwagon, though you have to look at the specs to be sure.

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For games as well as BluRay movies? Because that monitor sure as hell isn't HDCP compliant. That would be awesome news. I don't feel like buying a full-fledged HDTV yet, and a monitor like that should be excellent as a temporary solution to enjoy the PS3 in all its HD glory.

EDIT: Just double-checked and noticed the 2007WFP does indeed support HDCP over DVI. The Dell page just didn't state it. Too bad ... -__-

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Originally Posted by Rock

For games as well as BluRay movies? Because that monitor sure as hell isn't HDCP compliant. That would be awesome news. I don't feel like buying a full-fledged HDTV yet, and a monitor like that should be excellent as a temporary solution to enjoy the PS3 in all its HD glory.

EDIT: Just double-checked and noticed the 2007WFP does indeed support HDCP over DVI. The Dell page just didn't state it. Too bad ... -__-

Hmm, did a little google searching and it seems that there aren't too many HDCP compliant PC monitors. As I suspected, even considering how dated the article is, there doesn't seem to be a good variety of displays to choose form.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ndup/page2.asp

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In what may be an error on Sony's part, Lemmings is currently $2.99. Grab it now before they correct it..

The Genji 2 demo was a big disappointment. The scenery and characters look wonderful standing still, but there's a ton of slowdown, choppiness, and a seriously gimped Benkei (1 attack hits!?). This could have been big if they spent more time on it.

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An error? Why taking the worst case scenario? If we see more things priced at that, it'll spur their competitors into either improving their own services or lowing the costs of their titles. VC and XBLA come to mind.

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Well I thought the original price was $5.99. GAF is reporting it as an error. It's definetely worth the money though, based on the demo.

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Heh, I bought it for the original price before the error occured. Oh well.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Cetra

Yeah let's hold up the release of the PS3 for six months so the engineers can work out that problem with the black box around Cloud in the ten year old FF7.

FF7's one flaw for that part of the game isn't the main problem for me. It's all the other games and their

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Originally Posted by Rock

Approximately 95% of all PS2 games work perfectly fine on the PS3 without errors.

Sure, that's an impressive number. But what if, like me, all the games you own just so happen to be part of the other 5%?

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Ugh I was looking at my PS3 box today and a section of the bottom is all scrunched in and it tore a bit so I can see the inside of the box slightly. I have a feeling the damn system isn't even going to work when I hook it up. I can't hook it up yet because I have to organize and move some things around but it looks like something rammed up on the botton of the box. Or a section of it anyway.

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WolfDemon: At least you know that Sony is going to fix these issues, just give them a chance. On the other hand I wish I still had my original X-box for only two of my 56 games work on the 360... how's that for ya. Worst part is that I know that MS is NEVER going to make any more BC updates. I guess Peter Moore knows all though when he said, "We're not going to update the BC list any more because no one plays X-box games still". Hmmmm... too bad your ivory tower has shitty informents because LOTS of people WOULD if the damn $500 system COULD run them... dumb ass.

Dragoon: It's not that big of a deal, just because the box has a rip doesn't mean anything because there's tons of foam between the system and the box. However if it doesn't work you just take it back and they have to give you one from their next shipment. Like I said, no big deal.

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Is there such a connector available that will allow me to hook up my PS2 and Gamecube using the composite cables to the VGA input on my LCD? I also own an ALL IN WONDER X800XT but I can't for the life of me figure out how to use all the converter boxes and contraptions it came with. I was positive I'd be able to get this to work somehow but I fail. My problem is that the television (not mine) is in one room and my stereo is in another. This means the time I can spend gaming on that TV is very limited and I also have to deal with crappy sound. As much as I am enjoying playing FFXII at the moment it sucks only being able to play at 1:00am with the crappy sound turned all the way down because everyone is asleep. Woe.

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