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Old Oct 16, 2010, 09:40 AM Local time: Oct 16, 2010, 10:40 PM #776 of 1196
I just might possibly be grasping at straws here, but could you try with MasterPlan 8.8, supposedly the last one with Compendium access?

Also, I would expect WotC to implement some kind of IP check, or possibly restrict the session to one IP logged in at a time. Because if they don't, one person from, say, SA, can post his login credentials. And that would be sad.

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Old Oct 17, 2010, 05:31 AM Local time: Oct 17, 2010, 11:31 AM #777 of 1196
Hammer to the face is totally a valid strategic response to all problems.

On a totally unrelated note Pang what are your feelings on the fastball special in place of a charge?
I'm sure I picked up a feat or power or something that lets you leap instead of running on a charge attack.

This party is so hilariously unbalanced it's awesome. It's either going to result in an epic murdering spree or a very short, messy death for everyone involved.

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Old Oct 17, 2010, 05:47 AM #778 of 1196
I just might possibly be grasping at straws here, but could you try with MasterPlan 8.8, supposedly the last one with Compendium access?

Also, I would expect WotC to implement some kind of IP check, or possibly restrict the session to one IP logged in at a time. Because if they don't, one person from, say, SA, can post his login credentials. And that would be sad.
No dice, just throws up a bunch of Unhandled Exceptions.

I don't see mega-communities like SA or 4chan being a real risk to the "just log in" methodology, since if there's one thing you can count on goons or channers for, it's ruining a good thing for everyone else. If you log in to someone's DDI account you can cancel it for them (and get their CC info if you're persistent), so nobody's going to hand it out to total unknowns.

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Old Oct 17, 2010, 04:36 PM Local time: Oct 17, 2010, 02:36 PM #779 of 1196
Making up a psion with the Living Missile ability. We're going to make bum darts a reality!


Also, is there a way to print just the char sheet on Obsidian Portal? So far I'm not a big fan of this website. Seems incredibly limiting.

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Old Oct 17, 2010, 07:52 PM #780 of 1196
I'm not sure I understand the question. If you wanted to print your sheet for some reason couldn't you just do that from within the Char Builder?

If you don't like the formatting of the default sheet you're not forced to use it; that's why I've encouraged folks to sign up so they can arrange their own sheets in whatever way suits them. You just dump the html / textile code in the "crunch" section and it's really no harder to work with than the wiki was.

D&D Tools - Character Sheet Creator offers an alternate preset to work from; it's not as elegant IMO but there's a little more room to cram in descriptions & etc.

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Old Oct 17, 2010, 09:44 PM Local time: Oct 17, 2010, 09:44 PM #781 of 1196
So guns in the setting means some form of gun or blasting powder decently is available correct?

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Old Oct 17, 2010, 09:53 PM Local time: Oct 18, 2010, 10:53 AM #782 of 1196
Textile has me beat up worse than Wikitext. I've just decided to surrender and use a picture for my quick reference



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Old Oct 18, 2010, 08:46 AM #783 of 1196
So guns in the setting means some form of gun or blasting powder decently is available correct?
Believe we've had blasting powder in one form or another since back in Adventure I, yes.

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Old Oct 20, 2010, 02:40 PM Local time: Oct 20, 2010, 08:40 PM #784 of 1196
I'm not sure I like the portrait you picked for Beefi, Pang. I saw him as more of a Fresian, like this:



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Old Oct 22, 2010, 04:28 AM Local time: Oct 22, 2010, 10:28 AM #785 of 1196
I updated the Obsidian thingy with my character background if anyone's interested.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 05:02 AM Local time: Oct 22, 2010, 06:02 PM #786 of 1196
So, just looking at a few party stats after browsing the wiki.

HP65 S11 AC18 Fort21 Ref15 Will15 Beefi Kertanz
HP56 S09 AC21 Fort18 Ref16 Will19 Garold Fangus
HP69 S09 AC25 Fort18 Ref19 Will18 Gra-fa-zut
HP52 S06 AC23 Fort15 Ref23 Will17 Samwise Shadowspade
HP60 S10 AC20 Fort19 Ref15 Will15 Uxig Uxigson
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HP60 S09 AC21 Fort18 Ref18 Will17 Party Average


Conclusion: Beefi Kertanz = punching bag hamburger

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 05:10 AM Local time: Oct 22, 2010, 11:10 AM #787 of 1196
He also has the highest single enemy damage attack with his 4d12+7 rage strike.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 05:48 AM Local time: Oct 22, 2010, 05:48 AM #788 of 1196
I updated the Obsidian thingy with my character background if anyone's interested.
Likewise


On an unrelated note Do you care if I use you as my go to bag o healing surges for my 2 for the price of one healing power? Seeing as you have the most of them and all.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 07:52 AM 1 #789 of 1196
The whole point of a meat shield is to get hurt for the benefit of others, and Shin's PC is literally composed of savory beef. I'm just saying.

Zerg, I'm not going to accuse you of anything, but if you happen to accidentally stumble upon information regarding this adventure's particular challenges, please keep it to yourself. Or we will have words.

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I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 08:30 AM Local time: Oct 22, 2010, 07:30 AM #790 of 1196
I am capable of more than words, so with a single one I can fix access...problems as needed. If it comes to that.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 08:38 AM Local time: Oct 22, 2010, 09:38 PM #791 of 1196
The whole point of a meat shield is to get hurt for the benefit of others, and Shin's PC is literally composed of savory beef. I'm just saying.

Zerg, I'm not going to accuse you of anything, but if you happen to accidentally stumble upon information regarding this adventure's particular challenges, please keep it to yourself. Or we will have words.

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Now now. You know very well nothing would please me more than to see the halfling rogue eviscerated into ribbons. Given that I have no investment of any kind in this particular party, why ever would I be motivated to accidentally stumble on any information regarding challenges?

I fully intend to sit back, relax, eat some popcorn, and eagerly anticipate every single one of the party die a horrible horrible death!

Also, Beefi's the textbook illustration of a glass cannon striker (give him a +2 magic armor out of pity), so it's his job to grind enemies to dust before they turn him into hamburger. Given his low initiative, I suspect he's going to get pounded into fine paste pretty much before he has a chance to rage. Meat shield indeed.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 08:48 AM Local time: Oct 22, 2010, 08:48 AM #792 of 1196
Since we're doing the inherent bonus thing wouldn't he have to be given +4 armor to get that kind of boost? I mean I know I'm not much better off but at least I sprung for chain mail.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 08:51 AM Local time: Oct 22, 2010, 09:51 PM #793 of 1196
Well, inherent bonus gives him +2 to attacks and damage, and +1 to defenses right now. Normally, without the inherent bonuses, he'd be entitled to a Level 8, 7, and 6 item, which translate to +2 armor, +2 weapon, and +2 neck slot item no matter which item is at what level.

In the Defenses section of the sheet, compare the enchantment bonus given to Gra-fa-zut against the rest of you.

Don't get me wrong. There's no way we can give Barbarians Defender-type AC and still keep them effective as strikers. Highest I've gotten a level 7 minotaur barbarian's AC and make it something I still want to play with is 21, with a penalty to Will; naturally it inflicts considerably less damage than Shin's optimized build.

AC 19 still makes Beefi Pang's punching bag (level 7 enemies' +13 vs AC = hit on 6+ or 75% chance of getting whacked). But hey, 1 additional AC means roughly 5% less chance you get hit

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 06:49 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2010, 12:49 AM #794 of 1196
I built Beefi to be as damage dealing as possible and bollocks to anything else. He's got a ton of hp and endless surges but I gave literally no thought to defence as I was setting him up. Even in my initial submission before Pang toned down his magic items he wasn't wearing particularly defensive armour. Cette, you're more than welcome to abuse his surges as he'll never get to use them all otherwise.

I didn't really go for pure stat maxing so much as I went for a character that'd be amusing to storm into a group of bad guys and fuck their shit up. Initiative counts for nothing Zerg when your character is an avowed pacifist and won't attack anything until he gets injured anyway. I think you're forgetting that I play this game for laughs* rather than to "win" as such.



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Is there anywhere on that character sheet that reminds us what our feats actually do? I'm sure the character builder thing adds in all the right bonuses and such but for example, I've already forgotten how much extra damage I do to prone opponents due to Headsman's chop. I know I can look them up on the character builder but that's installed on my other laptop...

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 07:10 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2010, 08:10 AM #795 of 1196
Nope. For this reason, I put this information in the character sheet for my characters. I also prefer quick reference sheets to manually browsing through powers list, but your mileage may differ.

I suggest putting all that situational damage under the "Notes" section. There's plenty of bonuses to attacks and rolls you barbarians get.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 07:11 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2010, 01:11 AM #796 of 1196
Quite, that's why I wanted a list.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 07:14 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2010, 08:14 AM #797 of 1196
I can muck around with Beefi if you like. Send me his Character Sheet and give me temporary ownership

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 07:21 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2010, 01:21 AM #798 of 1196
Er, that's on the other laptop too.

Oh no wait, I uploaded it to the GFF server!

http://www.gamingforce.org/staff/Shi...iKertanz.dnd4e

Although that's the version with comedy amounts of magic gear, the feats and such are unchanged now. I've given you ownership of the article too.

He still has the horned helm and running shoes now.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 08:08 PM Local time: Oct 22, 2010, 07:08 PM #799 of 1196
O zerg. One day we will get you a big 'ol sign to hang around your neck that reads: "I just don't get it, whatever it happens to be." And we will save people oodles of time.

No one but you cares about "winning" the game, or having a tank of a character. We just play characters we can have fun with and use to amuse the people we play with. Shin's character is hilarious, and if he dies early, it will probably be in an epic fashion that will go down as one of the most remembered moments of the campaign. Rolling dice and stabbing shit after you figure it out on an excel sheet to maximize your percentages is fucking boring, son. None of us want to do that.

We've tried explaining this time and time again, let me try a different approach.

You think we're all trapped in the Passion of the Christ, and everything is serious and must be approached with a certain amount of gravitas and importance.

But it isn't. This is Life of Brian, Zerg.

Put away the fucking spreadsheets. We're whistling on the cross. Stop subtitling in Aramaic. We don't care.

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Old Oct 22, 2010, 08:19 PM #800 of 1196
Yeah, Skills made power cards for feats & rituals & etc too and figured out a tidy way to actually arrange them in something other than a vertical column, but I've not had much luck duplicating his work. This is why I suggest people to join Obsidian with us, then your sheet can show or not-show whatever the fuck you want it to. Otherwise you can wait for Skills to get more free time or wait for me to get more competent at coding; neither of these are on the immediate agenda.

In the meantime MOST feats are simple enough that you can just jam quick explanations into the NOTES field of your sheet, under the cash.

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