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So Whats This 2012 Shit Anyway?
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 07:47 PM #26 of 82
Joe Rogan is the solution to this problem, actually.

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Old Aug 25, 2008, 08:20 PM #27 of 82
I, personally like the supervolcano way. I wouldn't want everything to die, I like the idea of a 'New Era'.

Or alternatively, I want to evolve into a being of light/energy like in Galactic Civilizations.

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Old Aug 26, 2008, 12:50 AM Local time: Aug 26, 2008, 12:50 AM #28 of 82
I, personally like the supervolcano way. I wouldn't want everything to die, I like the idea of a 'New Era'.

Or alternatively, I want to evolve into a being of light/energy like in Galactic Civilizations.
You mean just everything on the Continental United States, huh motherfucker?

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Old Aug 26, 2008, 07:07 AM Local time: Aug 26, 2008, 01:07 PM #29 of 82
2012 will mark the first Olympic games to be contested in an un-finished stadium. You know us Brits can't organise building projects for shit. Also, according to the Ghost Recon timeline 2012 is when America gets invaded by a bunch of Mexicans and I'm pretty sure Frontlines cites 2012 as the beginning of World War 3 so the signs are definitely all there.

As I understand it, the shift in Earth's magnetic axis will most likely confuse a load of migrating birds and fish more than anything else but I do tend to only ever read the first paragraph of New Scientist articles.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 26, 2008, 07:42 AM Local time: Aug 26, 2008, 02:42 PM #30 of 82
The Large Hadron Collider destroying the world is a bunch of fearmongering bullshit by people who have no clue how quantum physics operates (99.9% of people). It could result in tiny black holes, yes, but said holes dissipate until they reach a proper size. The smaller the black hole, the faster it dissipates.
Ah, you're one of THEM!

No, I'm well aware of the fact that the Large Hardon Collider is completely harmless. I just thought it fitted along with unfounded 2012 talk.

As I understand it, the shift in Earth's magnetic axis will most likely confuse a load of migrating birds and fish more than anything else but I do tend to only ever read the first paragraph of New Scientist articles.
From what I've read in some danish popular science thing, the lack of a magnetic field around the Earth should also lead to everything being soaked in cosmic and solar waves. Which would be like Fallout, without the humour.

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Old Aug 26, 2008, 07:45 AM #31 of 82
2012 will mark the first Olympic games to be contested in an un-finished stadium. You know us Brits can't organise building projects for shit.
What about that Millennium Dome thing that they featured in The World Is Not Enough?

And then had the world's biggest jewellery heist.

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Old Aug 26, 2008, 08:19 PM Local time: Aug 27, 2008, 01:19 AM #32 of 82
What about that Millennium Dome thing that they featured in The World Is Not Enough?

And then had the world's biggest jewellery heist.
England's biggest joke/waste of money? You've got to be kidding.

Isn't it curious that Nostrodamus was (debatably) born on the 21st of December.

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Old Aug 26, 2008, 08:26 PM #33 of 82
England's biggest joke/waste of money?
You still finished it on time.

The stupid part of it is that you have nothing to do with it NOW.

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Old Aug 27, 2008, 07:10 AM Local time: Aug 27, 2008, 01:10 PM #34 of 82
You still finished it on time.
Barely. There was still scaffolding all over it on the millenium night. Also I cite the new Wembley stadium as an example of British building projects, cost double the budget and took a couple of years longer than it should have.

The Millenium Dome got bought by O2 and is now the O2 arena. They have concerts there that nobody can get home from because the public transport infrastructure never got finished properly and there's only about 20 parking spaces on site.

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Old Aug 27, 2008, 07:16 AM Local time: Aug 27, 2008, 12:16 PM #35 of 82
It was done on time because it was rushed to hell.

And while it was still known as the dome, it fucking sucked.

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 02:02 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2008, 01:02 PM #36 of 82
according to a panel I read at the vancouver planetarium, a meteorite will come as close as 40000 Km (the moon is 380 000 KM far) to the planet around 2012. Who knows if it will come closer...

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 02:16 PM #37 of 82
according to a panel I read at the vancouver planetarium, a meteorite will come as close as 40000 Km (the moon is 380 000 KM far) to the planet around 2012. Who knows if it will come closer...
NASA has debunked this as a total myth. There is no way a Meteor would come that close without them already basing warnings and preparing for it.

With hope though, maybe a few hundred or thousand people will take this seriously and commit ritualistic suicides in the same fashion as Heaven's Gate, and all the other cult organizations. Maybe the Scientologists will follow suit too (thats hoping for a lot though), and so, we may just solve the problem with overpopulation.

Clearly though, this is nothing but another y2k scare.

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 04:37 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2008, 03:37 PM #38 of 82
Um. A few hundred thousand people isn't going to do jack squat about overpopulation.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?


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Old Sep 1, 2008, 04:40 PM #39 of 82
Um. A few hundred thousand people isn't going to do jack squat about overpopulation.
A few hundred thousand morons who believe everything though just might do something good for the world.

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 04:47 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2008, 03:47 PM 1 #40 of 82
Well, I can't argue with that.

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 05:06 PM 1 #41 of 82
Um. A few hundred thousand people isn't going to do jack squat about overpopulation.
No, but it just might get Janus X to stop posting here

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 06:08 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2008, 06:08 PM 1 1 #42 of 82
NASA has debunked this as a total myth. There is no way a Meteor would come that close without them already basing warnings and preparing for it.
No way? Its more likely than you think.


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Old Sep 1, 2008, 06:24 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2008, 05:24 PM #43 of 82
Nehmi, that entire article is about how incredibly unlikely it is for an asteroid to hit Earth. Did you even read it before linking to it?

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 07:01 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2008, 05:01 PM #44 of 82
What's going to happen is that Nemesis, which has never ever been documented and is pure speculation, will get within a short distance of its highly irregular orbit with a great amount of gravitational influence, this object will have to be super huge to even influence the Earth, and destroy the solar system. Or what a bunch of nutjobs think.

Personally I think that 2012 will happen like any other year and the most likely cause of our demise will be by our own hands.

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 08:09 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2008, 06:09 PM #45 of 82
Personally I think that 2012 will happen like any other year and the most likely cause of our demise will be by our own hands.
I for one, hope it's the zombie apocalypse. Not some asteroid wiping out man, global warming, some global pandemic, nuclear warfare, Y2K, and/or Jesus coming back to kick some ass.

No, bring on the flesh eating zombies!

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 08:54 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2008, 07:54 PM #46 of 82
2012 is a numerologically ugly number. Why can't people say prophetic things about 2016 instead. Think of the possibilities one could have with the numbers it produces!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 10:23 PM #47 of 82
Like the article says:
Originally Posted by National Georgasmic
100 Years After Tunguska, Earth Not Ready for Meteors
Brian Handwerk
for National Geographic News
July 1, 2008

A hundred years after a mysterious and massive explosion struck Russia, experts are warning that Earth is ill prepared to face a cosmic catastrophe that could do similar damage.

The blast, known as the Tunguska event, leveled some 770 square miles (2,000 square kilometers) of forest with the power of nearly 200 Hiroshima-size atomic bombs.

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Remarkably few people witnessed the event, and debate has raged for decades about its cause.

One of the leading theories is that a comet or asteroid hit Earth or exploded upon entering the atmosphere above remote western Siberia.

"Had that same object exploded over a metropolitan area, there would have been millions of people killed," U.S. Representative Dana Rohrabacher (a Republican from California) said yesterday at a briefing at the Planetary Society in Pasadena, California.

"Right now we have no plan in place to detect these objects far enough out to deflect them."

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Meteors in the form of about a hundred tons of dusty particles reach Earth every day.

In fact meteors seen on an average night or during an annual shower are mostly small particles burning up as they enter our atmosphere.

Because Earth is pelted with tiny objects all the time, assessing the probability of larger impacts is far more difficult and controversial.

Experts admit they don't yet know how many so-called Near-Earth Objects (NEOs) orbit close enough to pose a threat.

Most NEOs are asteroids, and NASA currently classifies about 959 asteroids as potentially hazardous.
We would know about now thanks to the Hubble Space Telescope or any outer space observatorial devices of such an object coming to hit the planet.

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 10:27 PM 1 #48 of 82
Would you two stop acting like Elixir for the rest of this thread?

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 11:11 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2008, 10:11 PM #49 of 82
Not to play devil's advocate, but taking in to account the amount of space debris and potential meteorites/asteroids, it's impossible to keep tabs on every single one. I actually saw a figure pertaining to this some time back, but it's quite staggering; it's like being able to count the number of (and keep tabs on) water droplets that make up an long burst of a fire-hose :V

Despite this, very very few make it toward the Earth. The Van Allen belts tend to sway most bodies away, and the few that remain typically disintegrate upon entry in to the atmosphere. To see the Van Allen belt working its magic, simply compare the Earth's topography to the moon's. Sure, the Earth has weathering and what-have-you to smooth out impacts over time, but the moon (which has a magnetic field less than a hundredth the power of Earth's, courtesy of its "dead" interior) is *covered* with impacts from meteors. In conjunction, the moon lacks an atmosphere and doesn't have a burn-up effect that we see upon re-entry in to Earth.

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Old Sep 1, 2008, 11:17 PM 2 #50 of 82
I'm no expert, but I read somewhere that in the event that something like a meteor comes HURDLING TOWARDS EARTH (and I believe there is one on it's way, but will pass without incident), they have a technique using gravity to lure the meteor away from it's collision course with Earth.

I forgot how they'd do it, exactly. But it involves no explosions or ARMAGEDDON-like blowing-up of huge flying debris. All done with mass and gravity in space.

Ah. Here we go.

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