[Wii] Modding the Wii. Mine has go-faster stripes and a massive spoiler

Originally Posted by Grawl

What's your point? It's just not good enough to buy, but certainly good enough to pirate.

I've found that Kororinpa is one of the only games actually worth owning on the system. Rayman, Monkey Ball, Sonic, Wing Island, all got returned. But Kororinpa! Stays a while, stays forever! Probably because I'm in love with the box.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

I've found that Kororinpa is one of the only games actually worth owning on the system. Rayman, Monkey Ball, Sonic, Wing Island, all got returned. But Kororinpa! Stays a while, stays forever! Probably because I'm in love with the box.

But didn't your Wii turn itself into ashes or something?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Yeah it's fucked forever, waiting to be traded in towards something. Like a can of beans. But I can still stare at the Kororinpa box on my shelf!

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

That's because Kororinpa has the best damn boxart EVER. I also think it's the best game for Wii, especially when you use one of the skins, like the pig. *oink oink*
Eledees is pretty fun too, though.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Although I know that Freeloader can be nullified with firmware updates, I'm still looking out for a Wii Freeloader; I don't care much for burning but I'd like to play the American Trauma Centre my cousin got for me while overseas (and big games that come out earlier for US and Japan... WHEN'S MY SMASH BROS COMING OUT, Nintendo of Australia?). Any news on Freeloader Wii lately? Unless the Wii's starting to lose steam and Revolution 360 is announced, modchips are a no-go zone for me.

Shame about Freeloader GCN on the Wii, but that's what a Cube is for!

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by chaofan

Shame about Freeloader GCN on the Wii, but that's what a Cube is for!

Only if your Cube lasts forever. I have a big collection of GCN imports, it's seriously bad news for me if Freeloader never becomes compatible with Wii again.

I wouldn't bother getting a Wii modchip either, to be honest. There aren't enough games whether good or bad to justify it. In another year, I might look at one, but who knows.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Grawl

I'm not sure if you work at all, but that's just a matter of hours (at most).

Look, I'm not the one pirating Wii games here. I would buy them when they came out. But right now I don't like a lot of the Wii games available. Nothing really sticks. It's called "good taste".

Originally Posted by Grawl

I bought a modded PS2 that's a phat model and I used it ever since to play and finish Kingdom Hearts 2, test around 70 games I burned and will never play, and play quite some hours in Final Fantasy XII. Plus we use it as a DVD-player. And we have our odd game of Buzz, Tekken, Guilty Gear etc. First models are the best, basically.

uh, lol what

"I have a larger styled PS2 console and it's modded, so the first models are the best" does not equal "I have a larger PS2 console which means it's the first model available."

There's a number of different models (model numbers, this should have been painfully obvious) for the larger PS2, as well as the slimline. They're constantly updating the console and releasing newer versions.

Same with the Wii, there's two versions. One which is the original, another which was released in June that cuts out the ability to mod to some extent.

I'm not in a position to be wasting bandwidth on games I'm only going to play once or twice. If you get an hours enjoyment out of burning a couple of mediocre Wii games, go for it. I still don't see the point. People are weird.

Coincidentally, the only Wii game I own is Kororinpa. PANDA BALL

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

The point behind piracy is getting something for nothing, or very little. In this case, Wii games. Is it really so hard to understand?

I don't know if you're trying to advocate buying the actual games or if you're just being ridiculously snobby regarding what people play.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Sakabadger

The point behind piracy is getting something for nothing, or very little. In this case, Wii games. Is it really so hard to understand?

I don't know if you're trying to advocate buying the actual games or if you're just being ridiculously snobby regarding what people play.

Let's be honest here, there's what, about 5-10 Wii games which are actually worth playing, give or take a few? Honestly, there isn't a lot out there. The console is new. Being critical of releases, I'd only play Warioware, Super Paper Mario, and Kororinpa. Maybe Twilight Princess.

I don't see the point in getting a modchipped Wii to play a bunch of mediocre games when you could simply rent them for one or two weeks and be done with it. It's TOO EARLY, it would be like modding a PS3 if it were possible. Whether you're modding to import and buy games out of your own region, or whether you're going to pirate. Either way, not enough games.

And one year on the modchip means one year on the modchip, not the console. But since I haven't heard of Wiis kicking the bucket that probably isn't an issue. Can Nintendo tell if a console has been opened and tampered with (after a modchip has been removed)?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I don't see what your opinion on Wii games has anything to do with what modders want to download.

If you look at game tracker sites, you will notice torrents for the strangest and most godawful games still have a healthy amount of peers (depending on the tracker of course). Once people are allowed to get something for free, they'll pretty much take almost anything, whether to try it out of curiosity or just because they can.

This is for instance comparable to the amount of pining for free stuff (quite literally anything) by customers calling my work or at expos.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

What's "worth playing" or not is entirely subjective, so I don't see why you even bring it up. Furthermore, the less a game costs, the more likely you might find yourself trying it out. If the game is effectively free (minus time and the cost of the blank disc) then you might find yourself trying out a whole lot of things! And if you gain enjoyment from said things, hooray, you've recovered the cost of the mod chip.

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I don't see the point in getting a modchipped Wii to play a bunch of mediocre games when you could simply rent them for one or two weeks and be done with it.

Renting games costs money! So does buying and installing a mod chip, you might argue. Pirate one or two Wii games that you like and you've recovered the cost. Plus, you still have the game. Rent one or two Wii games and you're out however much it cost to do so, and you have to return the game at some point.

Anyway, whatever. Your money, your Wii, you can do whatever you like. This isn't super serious business.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Elixir

People are weird.

Indeed.

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Originally Posted by Sakabadger

Renting games costs money! So does buying and installing a mod chip, you might argue. Pirate one or two Wii games that you like and you've recovered the cost. Plus, you still have the game. Rent one or two Wii games and you're out however much it cost to do so, and you have to return the game at some point.

Yeah, you're right. I'll probably end up modchipping my Wii later in the year since I have a bunch of American Gamecube games I'd like to continue playing (Metroid Prime 1, F-Zero GX, etc). Now that the Freeloader doesn't work they're just going to sit there and collect dust. Plus, finding Gamecube component cables is damn near impossible.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Can someone tell me if I'll have any issues running Super Paper Mario (original american copy) on a PAL Wii with Wiikey? I'm contemplating getting my Wii modded, mostly so that I don't have to worry about my Gamecube any more, but I'd also like to get SPM as well. I heard it's possible to brick the Wii. Any insight?

FELIPE NO

I'm also contemplating getting a modded Wii, but am still undecided. I would love to buy a US Wii because even if I were to buy all my Wii games from dvdvboxoffice, they'd still cost less than buying PAL games here.

I've found no useful info on what issues this brings with it. Voltage differences, whether VC and online play works at all, if the US Wii even gives out RGB (as I don't have a TV with component input) through scart etc.

This could be solved by getting a PAL Wii that's been modded, but I'm a little unclear on whether this brings more of its own issues with it (besides the whole "hopefully I can choose not to update when I want" thing).

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Some games, mostly from Nintendo, has firmware update. So you will have to be careful because games like Super Paper Mario, Pokémon Battle Revolution, Big Brain Academe and Metroid Prime 3 (that's all I remember) will ask you to update in order to play the game. If you try updating a EU Wii with US firmware and vice versa, it will brick your Wii. Best way to avoid this is to use a program that removes the firmware but right now there's no way to remove the firmware update on MP3 (I heard you can go ahead and update it but you'll end up with two news and weather channel; those clone will be useless).

As for playing GCN games using Wiikey, you have to make sure you update your Wiikey firmware to the leaked 1.9b version in order to get most of your GCN games working without any audio issue. Note that with the latest Wii firmware 3.0 U/E/J, Nintendo had made a way to block startup of those boot/install disc but there is a work around.

I think that should answer some question. I'll edit my post when I find more information about it.

How ya doing, buddy?

If you have to upgrade a game before playing it, how will the modchip counter it?

Originally Posted by Qwarky

I'm also contemplating getting a modded Wii, but am still undecided. I would love to buy a US Wii because even if I were to buy all my Wii games from dvdvboxoffice, they'd still cost less than buying PAL games here.

I've found no useful info on what issues this brings with it. Voltage differences, whether VC and online play works at all, if the US Wii even gives out RGB (as I don't have a TV with component input) through scart etc.

This could be solved by getting a PAL Wii that's been modded, but I'm a little unclear on whether this brings more of its own issues with it (besides the whole "hopefully I can choose not to update when I want" thing).

The Wii has an external power supply, so it SHOULD be able to run in any location with that location's power supply. My Japanese 360 came with a 110v power supply, but I use a 220v power supply which can be bought separately, and it runs fine. I'm pretty sure it applies to all other consoles so long as their power supplies are external.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Elixir

If you have to upgrade a game before playing it, how will the modchip counter it? ...

The modchip doesn't counter it. All current Wii modchip are DVD drive modchip which just allow you to play "backup/burn" disc. I get most of my information from GBAtemp.net so maybe that site could help you or anyone else.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I was talking about using a foreign game on a modchipped PAL Wii. I want to know if I can play Super Paper Mario without anything fucking up.

I think you forgot to mention the sole purpose of this modchip: region free.

How ya doing, buddy?

Then let me rephrase it: Current Wii modchip just allow you to play burn games from your region. If you want to play a game from other region you might need to patch it for it to work. Right now Wiikey had just release the new setup disc which you can turn on region override but it doesn't work for all games as some people reported.

Some games that I mention before, including US/NA version of Super Paper Mario contain firmware. You need to install it before you can play it. You can use a program to remove the firmware if you have a EU/JP Wii. If you try to install it on a non US Wii it will brick it.

So you should be fine playing SPM if you remove the firmware first... or download the EU version of SPM.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Actually I heard that if you already have the firmware installed, you won't need to worry about Super Paper Mario. As in, I saw someone mention that you should update first before inserting the game, and then you won't need to update at all.

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We just became aware of an issue with Super Paper Mario that has just been released in the USA. It works fine on US consoles. But if you want to play this game on a PAL or Japanese Wii, be it from an original disc or a backup, make sure you upgrade your Wii firmware to the latest available version before inserting the game.

The game contains an NTSC-U Wii update that is not compatible with early European and Japanese Wii firmwares. Failure to upgrade your Wii with the latest firmware before running Super Paper Mario USA on an import system can result in a bricked Wii.

This issue is not specific to CycloWiz, you'll have the same problem with any other region free mods/tricks. It doesn't brick the chip, but the Wii itself, so be very careful !

Also, I highly doubt it's possible to use WiiBrickBlocker with a legit copy.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Ok, I just modded my Wii for lulz and because I'm bored and don't really have anything better to do right now.

Everything works so far. Well, sort of. I updated to the unofficial 1.9b firmware and then used the 1.3 config disc to set everything up accordingly - even saw Snes9x listed in there, too. So far I've tried the following Gamecube games, and they all work 100%:

Shikigami no Shiro II (JP)
Ikaruga (JP)
Chibi Robo (US)
F-Zero GX (US)
Metroid Prime 1 (US)

However, F-Zero GX froze at the character select screen before I did the updates. It loaded just like a normal game, but regardless of being in progressive scan mode or not, it still froze. I don't know which update fixed this.

I haven't tried any Wii games yet (haven't downloaded/imported any) but I'm sure they will be fine. In any case I've future-proofed myself in case there's awesome Japanese games which won't be released here but I'll want to play regardless.

FELIPE NO

It would really be nice to see some homebrew action on the Wii (not GameCube homebrew). I can't wait for them to completely tear a hole in the Wii. I'm getting fed up with the Virtual Console and there are some games I'd like to play but I'm not willing to pay full price for. Yeah and I have a few Japanese GameCube games I can't play with FreeLoader anymore. I think when they release the eventual Black Wii I'll modchip it with a more advanced chip.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

BIGcn401 i have some questions

Today i bought Japanese modded Wii.
I bought mainly for two games, MP3 and RE Umbrella Chronicles(REUC).

I use to check games on shop before buying and didnt know anything about modding/firmwaring of Wii.

So i tried MetroidPrime3 it showed DVD icon but no icon of MP3 i clicked it and it started updating, which actually took longer than 360 update.
Then it showed MP3 icon i pressed it and MP3 started , i played it till you get to talk to charatcers in 1st tutorial level.
That was it, my test run was over.
Now its still packed and i am wondering if i have to worry about something?
Like bricking and shit?

Also now u know that i have used update and it works, i need to know the real other reason REUC, will it work smoothly without any tension or should i take care.
I am waiting REUC to hit torrents/net , will dload it ,burn it and play it, so will it work?
Do jap games work normally with no bricking tension on Jap modded Wii?
What if REUC will contain update , should i use the update or not?

After finishing REUC , i will eventually sell Wii back.

And yeah I also tried RE remake original GC , it also worked fine.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Sexninja

BIGcn401 i have some questions

Today i bought Japanese modded Wii.
I bought mainly for two games, MP3 and RE Umbrella Chronicles(REUC).

I use to check games on shop before buying and didnt know anything about modding/firmwaring of Wii.

So i tried MetroidPrime3 it showed DVD icon but no icon of MP3 i clicked it and it started updating, which actually took longer than 360 update.
Then it showed MP3 icon i pressed it and MP3 started , i played it till you get to talk to charatcers in 1st tutorial level.
That was it, my test run was over.
Now its still packed and i am wondering if i have to worry about something?
Like bricking and shit?

Also now u know that i have used update and it works, i need to know the real other reason REUC, will it work smoothly without any tension or should i take care.
I am waiting REUC to hit torrents/net , will dload it ,burn it and play it, so will it work?
Do jap games work normally with no bricking tension on Jap modded Wii?
What if REUC will contain update , should i use the update or not?

After finishing REUC , i will eventually sell Wii back.

And yeah I also tried RE remake original GC , it also worked fine.

Wait, let me get this straight -- you have a japanese NTSC Wii, you inserted Metroid Prime 3 (NTSC US), and installed the (US) firmware update? And your Wii still works?

Normally speaking, you should only install firmware updates that actually correspond to your Wii origin. If you have a japanese Wii, only use japanese firmware. If you have an US Wii, only update with US firmware.

Or did you mean you had a US Wii modded to play japanese games? That does make more sense..

There's nowhere I can't reach.