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Grawl Jul 31, 2007 03:04 PM

Modding the Wii. Mine has go-faster stripes and a massive spoiler
 
So there are a few chips out there, which one is considered best? I'm planning on getting mine modded one of these days. Think of the same it is for me to have an unmodded console next to a modded PS2, a modded Xbox and the Dreamcast which doesn't need to be modded to begin with.

pink Aug 14, 2007 08:33 PM

Wiikey

LS Aug 15, 2007 01:42 AM

I agree, Wiikey is by far the best mod chip out there, Although the delayed updates leaves plenty to be desired.

Elixir Aug 15, 2007 07:47 AM

Personally I wouldn't bother getting one just yet. Your console is still under warranty and there isn't any region specific games that you're going to want to play. The Japanese Wii games aren't as desirable as the hot imports for DS, like Ouendan, Taiko no Tatsujin, etc.


...maybe at the end of the year. In any case Wiikey is probably the best, since I keep hearing things about it. Apparently it only has partial support for games though (but GC games work fine).

Aardark Aug 15, 2007 07:50 AM

Elixir, did you know: modded consoles can be used to play pirated games.

Elixir Aug 15, 2007 08:00 AM

Aardark, did you know: there isn't a large amount of worthwhile games on the Wii worth pirating, to justify modding it, nor is there a large amount of imports to justify it either. And when the good games roll out (at this rate it's few and far between) I'd just buy them.

It's like the Gamecube. Who actually MODDED a freaking Gamecube? When the good games came out, people just bought them.

Still wouldn't recommend it to people with consoles under warranties. It isn't so much the fact that Wiis have a tiny failure rate or anything (even though there's overheating and green pixel issues, they're rare) I'd still take precautions and get the full price of what I paid for out of the console.

Lukage Aug 15, 2007 09:47 AM

Or perhaps the fact that the firmware updates are removing functionality of things like the Freeloader and that you'll end up wasting money on the chip.

Elixir Aug 15, 2007 09:52 AM

Have they done that yet? I heard about them killing the Freeloader, but not modchips for the Wii. Apparently the Wiikey can be updated via burned dvds, to counter stuff like this, according to their description of the thing on their site.

Aardark Aug 15, 2007 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 489810)
Or perhaps the fact that the firmware updates are removing functionality of things like the Freeloader and that you'll end up wasting money on the chip.

What? No one even mentioned Freeloader. Chips can be updated.

Elixir, what.

First of all, I can guarantee you that Grawl wants a modded console to play games for free, not to import witch rape simulators from Japan.

Secondly, 'there isn't a large enough amount of games to justify modding' is complete nonsense. As far as I know, a chip costs about the same as one game, so unless you plan on buying only one game ever, modding is worth it (in the sense of saving money). Moral issues aside, the only problem is the loss of warranty, but Wii is no 360; it's statistically very unlikely that it will just explode one day.

Thirdly, people didn't mod GameCube because chips weren't widely available, and it used wacky-ass minidiscs. With Wii, it's only a question of ordering a chip, installing it, and burning DVDs.

Also, you like to take precautions, huh? Didn't you destroy someone else's console a while ago in the process of taking precautions?

Elixir Aug 15, 2007 10:18 AM

What.

There's absolutely no point in modding a Wii if there's no good games to pirate.

And the good games should be bought (of course) but since the Wii is so new it doesn't have much on offer. Also, with the Wii you can't rent a game and copy the information to drive and burn it, unless you have a specific dvd burner. I think only certain LG dvd burners work.

Personally I don't want to void my warranty because my country doesn't have a Nintendo base here. It goes through a piss useless secondary company. I'm also not too keen on modding the first version of a console (I modded my PS2, which is SCPH-30001R, and even that's old).

I would mod my Wii and 360 if I knew it was future proof. But seeing as how these consoles are capable of going online, it's a little different. I still say - wait it out. The Wii will get good games, newer modchips will become available, and newer Wii models will become available. It depends on whether you have the following:

- Cash to buy a specific DVD burner and
- Know-how of installing it or
- High speed internet to download games
- Cash for modchip
- Know-how for modding the Wii, or
- Cash to have it installed for you
- Lack of care for warranty

This doesn't kill the whole "Wii not having very many games on offer" thing, but if all these things fit you , then sure, you might as well go for it.

3000get

Slash Aug 15, 2007 02:12 PM

The only reason I would modify my Wii is for the following reason

To be able to play actual roms on it.

But then again, thats what a modded XBOX is for

RacinReaver Aug 15, 2007 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 489828)
There's absolutely no point in modding a Wii if there's no good games to pirate.

Doesn't it only make more sense to pirate a system if there's lots of mediocre games coming out? You know, ones that aren't worth the full sticker price but you want to play them more than you'd be able to with just a rental?

Slash Aug 15, 2007 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver (Post 489954)
Doesn't it only make more sense to pirate a system if there's lots of mediocre games coming out? You know, ones that aren't worth the full sticker price but you want to play them more than you'd be able to with just a rental?

For me, a lot of the wii games have been hit or miss.

Grawl Aug 15, 2007 05:58 PM

Wow, a whole discussion when I didn't realise it.

Anywii, I had my Wii modded last week with a WiiKey. I'm glad I did, so I can enjoy the NTSC version (patched to PAL) of Super Paper Mario, and play Kororinpa. Burned around 10 games or so, and I'm sure it'll be nice to have it modded when games like Metroid 3 or Mario Galaxy get released.

edit: I'm missing one very vital piece of argumentation here - I can now also pirate GC games. There even is a tool to put multiple games on one disc.

Elixir Aug 15, 2007 06:00 PM

Kororinpa has been out in Europe for over 6 months, in fact, it arrived there before America. >_>

Sepharite Aug 15, 2007 06:05 PM

Nice. I'm thinking of modding it too, but then again, I wouldn't be able to bring it to my Uni which starts in a few weeks, unless I sneak it out. But just curious, how much did it cost? Did you buy it online and install it yourself?

Grawl Aug 15, 2007 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 490051)
Kororinpa has been out in Europe for over 6 months, in fact, it arrived there before America. >_>

What's your point? It's just not good enough to buy, but certainly good enough to pirate.

Sepharite Aug 15, 2007 06:08 PM

I think he thought you modded in order to play it. He must have misunderstood your post.

edit: With a mod chip, can you emulate games that are available in the VC?

Grawl Aug 15, 2007 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepharite (Post 490055)
Nice. I'm thinking of modding it too, but then again, I wouldn't be able to bring it to my Uni which starts in a few weeks, unless I sneak it out. But just curious, how much did it cost? Did you buy it online and install it yourself?

There is a guy in a town nearby (half an hour by train, and we both live near the central stations) that modded the Wii of a housemate and some of his friends. I went there. I had to pay 60 Euros (he gave me a discount of 5 Euros, because I mentioned the guys that pointed me towards him), which leaves me with a one-year warranty only on the chip. He was really professional and quick though. He first tested if my Wii worked to begin with, then he scanned the barcode of my Wii for his database, he installed the chip and showed me the Wii still worked.

So for the price of a game, he installed a chip for me, and I had 10 games burned the day after.

Elixir Aug 15, 2007 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepharite (Post 490059)
edit: With a mod chip, can you emulate games that are available in the VC?

Yes, which pretty much defeats the entire fucking purpose of VC, lol

There's this Gamecube disc with a bunch of SNES roms and an emulator, so basically, if a Wii can read that it can play SNES games. They've also managed to rip the information of actual VC games but there's no way to use them so far. I suppose there will be some way of doing so with SD media in the future.

Sakabadger Aug 15, 2007 06:22 PM

If you're in a region that usescraiglist you can just do a quick search for "nintendo" or something like that. In my region, there are more than a handful of people who offer modding services for modest prices. The good ones will usually allow you to purchase a mod chip from them, allow you to watch them while they perform the work, and offer a warranty of some kind (one of the listings I saw for my region had something like "if I brick your Wii, you can take mine").

Sepharite Aug 15, 2007 06:49 PM

By VC, I'm mostly thinking of N64. Is that possible?

And great site! Someone can do it for $80 and he's practically my neighbour.

Quote:

Wii Memory Card: (If you'd like to play Game Cube Game on your Wii, Wii memory card is needed)
~ http://modgameconsole.go.51.net/wii.htm

What?

Grawl Aug 15, 2007 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepharite (Post 490081)
By VC, I'm mostly thinking of N64. Is that possible?

And great site! Someone can do it for $80 and he's practically my neighbour.


~ http://modgameconsole.go.51.net/wii.htm

What?

N64 isn't possible yet properly, I think.

Also, the guy probably means you need a GC memorycard to save GC games. But then again, I bought a 64MB one for 10 Euros.

LS Aug 15, 2007 08:12 PM

I love wiikey, It seems the update will come out in a few weeks.

Only few GC games are compatible for wiikey (Games with streaming sound such as Ikaruga)

Grawl, if i were you i'd burn 1 GC game = 1 DVD, that multigame disc, can crap up once in a while, and you wont be able to use it on those two disc games, such as Tales of Symphonia.

As for burning, i dont know if this has been mentioned or not, use IMGburn.

Grawl Aug 15, 2007 08:29 PM

Yea, wasn't able to load the images without it anyway (Nero would load, but fuck up... I had no clue DVD Decrypter was called ImgBurn, I used it for PS2 ISOs).

I found out --or perhaps it was coincidence-- that when I used 16x (MAX) to burn a DVD, it'd crap out. I loaded it, played it, wanted to play it again, it didn't work. Tried another copy (made one for a housemate) and that still worked. I was almost afraid my Wii gave up on me the day after I had it modded, but I found out the DVD was the cause. Can the burning speed affect this?

Anyway, I think I'll stick to one game a disc anyway. It seems more authentic that way.

Additional Spam:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 489828)
What.

There's absolutely no point in modding a Wii if there's no good games to pirate.

And the good games should be bought (of course) but since the Wii is so new it doesn't have much on offer. Also, with the Wii you can't rent a game and copy the information to drive and burn it, unless you have a specific dvd burner. I think only certain LG dvd burners work.

Personally I don't want to void my warranty because my country doesn't have a Nintendo base here. It goes through a piss useless secondary company. I'm also not too keen on modding the first version of a console (I modded my PS2, which is SCPH-30001R, and even that's old).

I would mod my Wii and 360 if I knew it was future proof. But seeing as how these consoles are capable of going online, it's a little different. I still say - wait it out. The Wii will get good games, newer modchips will become available, and newer Wii models will become available. It depends on whether you have the following:

- Cash to buy a specific DVD burner and
- Know-how of installing it or
- High speed internet to download games
- Cash for modchip
- Know-how for modding the Wii, or
- Cash to have it installed for you
- Lack of care for warranty

This doesn't kill the whole "Wii not having very many games on offer" thing, but if all these things fit you , then sure, you might as well go for it.

3000get

I feel the need to go into detail here. This post is just bullshit.

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There's absolutely no point in modding a Wii if there's no good games to pirate.
It's exactly the point.

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And the good games should be bought (of course) but since the Wii is so new it doesn't have much on offer
I found out it had more to offer, just because I was able to try games I'd never buy.

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Also, with the Wii you can't rent a game and copy the information to drive and burn it, unless you have a specific dvd burner. I think only certain LG dvd burners work.
Who rips their games anyway? I learned to use BitTorrent a few years ago.

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Personally I don't want to void my warranty because my country doesn't have a Nintendo base here.
Mine does. Warranty still broken.

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I'm also not too keen on modding the first version of a console (I modded my PS2, which is SCPH-30001R, and even that's old).
I bought a modded PS2 that's a phat model and I used it ever since to play and finish Kingdom Hearts 2, test around 70 games I burned and will never play, and play quite some hours in Final Fantasy XII. Plus we use it as a DVD-player. And we have our odd game of Buzz, Tekken, Guilty Gear etc. First models are the best, basically.

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I would mod my Wii and 360 if I knew it was future proof.
The thing is, only Donnie Darko does.

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But seeing as how these consoles are capable of going online, it's a little different.
The Wii doesn't auto-update like your Vista-system does. It will send you a message, which makes the DVD-drive glow in blue, telling you there is a update, and you're free to install it. Meanwhile I check WiiSO to see if it's safe. If it's not, I won't use it. If a game isn't safe, I won't use it. This isn't Microsoft, it's Nintendo!

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The Wii will get good games, newer modchips will become available, and newer Wii models will become available.
Newer models mean more problems. The WiiKey works fine the way it is right now. Just make sure an update is fine. It's not fine? Just make sure the game won't update. A simple tool will do this. Free, easy, effective. Already.

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It depends on whether you have the following:

- Cash to buy a specific DVD burner and
- Know-how of installing it or
Nah.

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- High speed internet to download games
Nah... I call it high-speed when I'm at my parent's place, uploading around 1.4 MB/s. I can live with 10 kb/s upload, really. And yet I download games.

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- Cash for modchip
I'm not sure if you work at all, but that's just a matter of hours (at most).

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- Know-how for modding the Wii, or
- Cash to have it installed for you
See previous point.

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- Lack of care for warranty
What if I have the chip removed?


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