Holy SHIT. UCLA students tazer'd by police for not showing ID -- VIDEO INCLUDED

Originally Posted by Encephalon

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Guys, I think you're overlooking one crucial point here. This is LOS ANGELES. People here in California are savages but in Los Angeles they're cannibals. UCLA may be a "prestigious" university but that doesn't mean that the students don't know how to properly initiate violence at the drop of a hat. Trust me on this. If the police took action on the guy there's a good chance that it's one of the pricks I've run into on my numerous visits to the campus who are a little too militant for their own good.

I'll say it again. Rodney King.

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Originally Posted by Encephalon

Japan, buddy. They don't need to kidnap you in the middle of the night in China since their capital punishment policy gives the law enforcement pretty much supreme authority.

Didn't they revise (or are in the process of revising) that policy? I was hearing a lot about it on NPR a while ago, but I don't think I heard about the conclusion to the issue.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Encephalon

Japan, buddy. They don't need to kidnap you in the middle of the night in China since their capital punishment policy gives the law enforcement pretty much supreme authority.

Notice how Deni said countries "close to you". gb2/reading/

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Originally Posted by GRUN-1

Can someone please delete that post.

I'm sorry if I want to try and inject humor into the thread.

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Originally Posted by packrat

Didn't they revise (or are in the process of revising) that policy?

Last I checked capital punishment was still a pretty standard procedure in China, but it's been about a while since I last heard of someone actually getting executed.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I hope that kid sues for a lot

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Student's name: Mostafa Tabatabainejad

Looking at a name like that, cops must have thought he was working for terrorists.

Good work cops. You're doing our country PROUD! BEAT THOSE TERRORISTS![/sarcasm]

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Originally Posted by The Dopefish

I got laid and told people about it. The end.

That's a hilarious story! No one EVER does that.

Actually, nobody does. That shit is stupid and petty and nobody honestly cares.

Originally Posted by Devoxy

To be honest I wish the cops would tazer more UCLA students. But I guess me and Enceph (and a few others) only know what it's like to interact with So-Cal/UCLA uni students.

Oh god, so many of the assholes from my High School go to USC, it's not even funny.

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Originally Posted by GRUN-1

Oh god, so many of the assholes from my High School go to USC, it's not even funny.

Yeah, but USC is nothing BUT assholes. :/

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Originally Posted by Denicalis

Yes, because AMERICAN cops make people disappear from their houses over night and they're never seen alive again. AMERICAN cops are the physical threat behind a political wing that serves only as a private murder corps. Jesus, Iwata, you're exaggerating just a little there. Some American cities have a reputation for police brutality, but nothing that can compare to countries you're currently very close to, mate.

I know a few people who've mysterously vanished from society after an altercation with Humboldt county sheriffs and their infamous night raids. I dare your ass to travel to garberville and fuck with the police there. I've even had a friend tazed and arrested at Folsom street Fair by a chick cop simply because he yelled at a dude getting arrested by that cop that his " situation sucked ".

My opinion on police forces are based on personal experience and i've been to HK and mainland china and the cops didn't seem half that bad. Yes, i know that the Chinese have mobile death vehicles and trample over peoples civil rights all the time, but i've never experienced it and you also have to take into account that China has nearly 4 times the amount of people then america does.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Wait, so because China has more people, it's ok for them to have "mobile death vehicles and trample over people's civil rights?" And dude, just cause you haven't experienced it, doesn't mean that it's ok.

How is Deni right about everything in this thread?! Unbelievable.

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You've never experienced police brutality in China.

You've experience police brutality in America.

Therefore, police are more brutal in America.

QED.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

Wait, so because China has more people, it's ok for them to have "mobile death vehicles and trample over people's civil rights?" And dude, just cause you haven't experienced it, doesn't mean that it's ok.

How is Deni right about everything in this thread?! Unbelievable.

I never said it was ok or good for what they are doing. I'm vehemently opposed to all forms of capital punishment. I'm simply saying that before you use China as an example for police brutality, you need to take into account that they have 1 billion more people then america. As it is guranteed that if America had the population of China, they would have equal capital punishment and police violence rates as China does nowadays.

It isn't a fair argument to say one country is far more brutal then another when the countrys in question have a population gap that nearly exceeds the 1 billion mark.

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So, Iwata, since you obviously know... How high does the population have to be in order to justify the type of police violence that the Chinese use?

I fail to see how the level of population is a factor in the ethical question of police brutality.

The vid is disgusting. Nothing more than a bunch of cops pissed off that they didn't go to college. Why couldn't they be elsewhere fighting some crime... I'm sure there's a meth lab somewhere that they could be busting up.

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

The vid is disgusting. Nothing more than a bunch of cops pissed off that they didn't go to college. Why couldn't they be elsewhere fighting some crime... I'm sure there's a meth lab somewhere that they could be busting up.

Don't you mean "blowing up?" After all, after this incident, that's probably an equivalent amount of police force required for breaking up a meth lab.

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Too true! If it requires 8 guys tazering the hell out of a kid to get him to leave the library, I'd hate to see what happens if you get pulled over for a speeding ticket.

I'd bet if you keep books overdue from that library, those dudes will give you the chair.

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

So, Iwata, since you obviously know... How high does the population have to be in order to justify the type of police violence that the Chinese use?

I fail to see how the level of population is a factor in the ethical question of police brutality.

The vid is disgusting. Nothing more than a bunch of cops pissed off that they didn't go to college. Why couldn't they be elsewhere fighting some crime... I'm sure there's a meth lab somewhere that they could be busting up.

When someone tries to use china's use of capital punishment as a reason why china's police force is more brutal then america's. Population is a huge factor to take into account when discussing such things like capital punishment and using it to gauge the brutality of the police force.

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That video disturbed me. And I felt so bad for the students, who were visibly upset. And I can't believe when that one guy in the white shirt was talking to the police officer and trying to reason with him (albeit angrily, which is understandable) and ask for his badge number, the officer threatened to tazer him.

What IS tazering, exactly? Clearly it hurts a lot... That was such a disturbing video. Though... why the HECK would the student not leave after being put through that much pain? Was he not physically able to? And weren't some people offering to carry him out and the police refused?

So disturbing. But it's almost kind of cool how the students got together into a mob and a few stepped forward and started yelling at the cops. Clearly they couldn't jump them or anything, or all of 'em would get tazered.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

A Taser is a "less-lethal" weapon which delivers a minor electric shock to someone through a dart or pair of darts (small suckers) attached to wires. They have a trigger to allow the user to deliver the shock, which is usually just enough to incapacitate ("stun") the victim.

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Originally Posted by blue

That video disturbed me. And I felt so bad for the students, who were visibly upset. And I can't believe when that one guy in the white shirt was talking to the police officer and trying to reason with him (albeit angrily, which is understandable) and ask for his badge number, the officer threatened to tazer him.

What IS tazering, exactly? Clearly it hurts a lot... That was such a disturbing video. Though... why the HECK would the student not leave after being put through that much pain? Was he not physically able to? And weren't some people offering to carry him out and the police refused?

So disturbing. But it's almost kind of cool how the students got together into a mob and a few stepped forward and started yelling at the cops. Clearly they couldn't jump them or anything, or all of 'em would get tazered.

A tazer is a gun-like apparatus that fires dart-like electrodes that basically elecrocute the reciever of these darts with a certain amount of voltage that incapacitates the victim for a period of time.

Having talked to various victims of tazers, getting tazed takes away all your sense of balance. So you really can't stand up at all for at least 5-10 minutes after the last voltage charge you're body recieved.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Iwata

A tazer is a gun-like apparatus that fires dart-like electrodes that basically elecrocute the reciever of these darts with a certain amount of voltage that incapacitates the victim for a period of time.

It's actually the amperage that does the trick, not the voltage.

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Originally Posted by GRUN-1

This is why I hate cops.

Yeah I was being sarcastic. Cops like this are the worst, and the main reason people hate the police.

Also.

Originally Posted by Iwata

When someone tries to use china's use of capital punishment as a reason why china's police force is more brutal then america's. Population is a huge factor to take into account when discussing such things like capital punishment and using it to gauge the brutality of the police force.

In 2004, China performed 3400 executions, accounting for 90% of executions worldwide. Last I checked, China didn't account for 90% of the world's population.

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While China does not have 90% of the world's population, 34000 executions is small in comparison to its population. Singapore actually has the largest executions per population size.

And topic, god that video fucking creeped me out.

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Still, compare that to the 50 the US executed in 2005. The ratio of executions to population isn't even close. If I'm not mistaken, the US has one of the highest execution rates in the world, too.

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Originally Posted by Capo

Still, compare that to the 50 the US executed in 2005. The ratio of executions to population isn't even close. If I'm not mistaken, the US has one of the highest execution rates in the world, too.

Although the U.S prison system currently is over-packed and funding is sparse. if the U.S had to take on extra 1 billion citizens, all the 3,370 inmates on death row currently, wouldn't be alive for more then two days.

China may not have 90% of the world population, yet they are the largest country in the world by 200,000 million people with 1.3 billion citizens unlike the U.S's tiny population of 300 million.

Now lets take a look at the number of incarcerated prisoners within each country.

US - 1,962,220 criminals
China - 1,428,126 criminals

If the U.S had to take on an extra billion citizens, it is easy to gurantee that the capital punishment would reach the current numbers that china are showing, if not higher.

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