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[General Discussion] The most valued game in the world nowadays?
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Old Sep 22, 2006, 12:26 PM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 06:26 PM #26 of 56
The most important thing I think is because people only buy retrogames out of nostalgia. The SNES games are fucking expensive now, because everyone remembers Zelda from their childhood and wants one. When we grow old, our kids will have no interest in those crappy old consoles, and play what they grew up with, and the price will drop.

I have lots of videogame consoles, but stuff older than NES I don't care about at all*. I've never experienced one*, probably because I am too young for it*. I think the price will drop when it gets 'too old' for the generation. Who wants old stuff that sucks, if you never experienced "live"?


*c64 and amiga does not count.


Oh, and I've seen Link to the past for at least £130 on auction here (1600NOK).

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 02:43 PM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 01:43 PM #27 of 56
With prices like that, I really should just start buying up any PAL games that look like they might be even remotely popular and turn around and sell them for profit. LTTP setting someone back THAT MUCH? Wow.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 03:35 PM #28 of 56
Originally Posted by GoldfishX
I'm in agreement about the 32 bit era...You have import-only games worth a fortune and domestic ones with pitiful releases or demand (most good Saturn games, FFT, Dragonball GT and Valkyrie Profile for a time, Suikoden 2 is probably still worth a small fortune).
Oh geez, I remember that. That blasted GT game on the PS1 was one of the rarest games for the PS1 at the time and being the only game with the Dragonball name attached to it during the start of the craze here in the US made it even more sought after. I(now just a Dragonball fan, disgusted by Z and GT) remember spending 3 years looking for a place to buy that game after having only rented it once from a local video store.

Now since it has been re-released, you can find it in bargain bins everywhere.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 03:40 PM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 10:40 AM #29 of 56
I guess I got pretty lucky then, I happen to have a original radiant silvergun that I bought for the saturn quite a while ago, I doubt I still have the case though

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 06:01 PM #30 of 56
I'd say the most valued games to me are games I find worthy of continueing to own... I don't care how much a Genesis, SNES or PS1 game is worth on ebay unless I own it because you know... there are always roms and ISOs if you are that desperate for those games...

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 06:33 PM Local time: Sep 23, 2006, 12:33 AM #31 of 56
Originally Posted by Omnislash124
For the most part, it's going to be the games that were restricted from one region...Shining Force III Ep. 2/3
Not so much Scenario 3. You're likely to shell out more for a US or PAL Scenario 1 than you are a Jap Scenario 3.

Add the Shining Force 3 Premium Disc to the list, though. A limited edition freebie from the makers of Shining Force 3, provided you could prove you'd bought all 3 scenarios. Probably worth more than either Panzer Saga or Radiant Silvergun.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 06:35 PM #32 of 56
Originally Posted by Sarmoti
Oh geez, I remember that. That blasted GT game on the PS1 was one of the rarest games for the PS1 at the time and being the only game with the Dragonball name attached to it during the start of the craze here in the US made it even more sought after. I(now just a Dragonball fan, disgusted by Z and GT) remember spending 3 years looking for a place to buy that game after having only rented it once from a local video store.

Now since it has been re-released, you can find it in bargain bins everywhere.
I actually worked in an Electronics Boutique during the height of the DBZ craze. If someone was dumb enough to trade this game in (and 3 people were), the employee on hand would immediately buy the game for the system price (relatively cheap) and then turn around and ebay it. I would always come in and someone would be gloating how they won the GT lottery. One guy got $166, IIRC and the other two were around $90-ish.

We did something similar with Final Fantasy Tactics...Someone traded it in and my manager adjusted the price of of used copies from like $40, to $80 and someone picked it up later that night.

The reissues effectively dropped the insane prices both were going for, thankfully.

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Old Sep 25, 2006, 08:10 AM Local time: Sep 25, 2006, 09:10 PM #33 of 56
Secret of Mana PAL is the most expensive game I've ever seen.
This was TWO WEEKS AGO OK.

I walk into Gametraders, I'm mulling about the store looking at old snes carts, everything was $20 basically unless it was good in which case it was $40 or $50

And just as I was leaving the store I looked at some glass cabinet that was in the middle of the store like a trophy cabinet. IN it I saw new, sealed FF7 for PSX.
$150 AUS, that's $112US
But then I fucking gagged as I saw what was above it.
Boxed Secret of Mana in I would say, pretty ragged condition.
THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS AUS
That's $225 US

This wasn't an ebay auction, this was a retail store.

It was ridiculous.

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Old Sep 25, 2006, 08:38 AM Local time: Sep 25, 2006, 11:38 PM #34 of 56
Holy shit, that's mental.

"Hey Gametraders, I'll trade you this busted Mega Drive RF switch for that Secret of Mana and Final Fantasy VII"
"That's not a worthy swap young man haw haw haw snort snort"
"Yeah but it was probably made in Japan I guess.. made in Japan by the Japanese"
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I think their quest for crazy money is going to fail!



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Old Sep 26, 2006, 08:24 PM Local time: Sep 26, 2006, 08:24 PM #35 of 56
The most expensive game I've come across that had a high value price was one of the few copies of the English translated Mother 1 (Earthbound Zero) that was floating around. I believe there were 4-5 copies made, but the game was simply never released at all outside of Japan so no more were made. One of the guys that did the ROM dump for it supposedly paid about $400 for the copy, and is the sole reason why we even have a ROM for it.

It'll be interesting to watch the prices though when Panzer Dragoon Saga and other games start showing up on XBLArcade or Wii's Virtual Console. Everyone will try and get top dollar at the last minute, and hilarity will ensue accordingly.

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Old Sep 27, 2006, 02:54 PM Local time: Sep 28, 2006, 08:54 AM #36 of 56
The most valued and expensive game in the world is one I own.



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Old Sep 27, 2006, 03:03 PM Local time: Sep 27, 2006, 02:03 PM #37 of 56
We've already debunked in this thread already that RS isn't that valuable compared to some other games there, New Zealand.

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Originally Posted by Kostaki
The most expensive game I've come across that had a high value price was one of the few copies of the English translated Mother 1 (Earthbound Zero) that was floating around. I believe there were 4-5 copies made, but the game was simply never released at all outside of Japan so no more were made. One of the guys that did the ROM dump for it supposedly paid about $400 for the copy, and is the sole reason why we even have a ROM for it.
Wow, you got that whole story wrong. The carts you see on eBay are fakes. ROMs dumped onto blank carts.

The story, according to starman.net:

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Nintendo translated the game to English, but never released the game. In 1998, a group of ROM translators discovered that Nintendo had auctioned off a prototype of the EarthBound 0 cartridge. They contacted the individual who had acquired the game, and made an agreement to borrow the game for a few hundred dollars so they could dump the cartridge to a ROM file. That is how we are able to play EarthBound 0 now.


I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Sep 27, 2006, 04:34 PM Local time: Sep 28, 2006, 10:34 AM #38 of 56
Okay fine. I did some fucking digging.




I know the Bangai-O one was only given out to 3 people who took Gold, Silver and Bronze positions at some little expo Treasure held in japan. That's probably the rarest out of the lot, although signed stuff is already nice.

Someone in Germany has taken that Chu Chu Rocket LE DC and had it signed by the Sonic Team staff as well, but I can't find any pictures at all. That'd be worth a billion. I did come across a bunch of stuff like a sealed Vib Ribbon, sealed Xenogears, sealed Valkyrie Profile, a ton of signed gear, but what I've displayed here is what seems to stand out over the rest.

The invisible rarity chart for games is really lame, but if someone can think of something I'm sure it already exists.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Sep 27, 2006, 05:07 PM Local time: Sep 27, 2006, 11:07 PM #39 of 56
Originally Posted by Elixir
Well okay. Even though it's not a game...

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Old Sep 27, 2006, 07:58 PM Local time: Sep 27, 2006, 06:58 PM #40 of 56
Nintendo World Championship (gold cart).

When they only made 116 copies of the game, and only 26 of those copies were gold, and the only way you could get one was to be one of the top winners in a one time only competetion in 1990, you can bet the thing is pretty fucking rare.

The more common grey cartridge version has sold for upwards of 6 grand. A gold one? Who knows. It was put on eBay with a But It Now of 20 grand. I don't know if it was purchased.

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Old Sep 27, 2006, 10:43 PM Local time: Sep 28, 2006, 12:43 AM #41 of 56
I heard that a guy in France sells a extremely rare copy of a prototype version of Castlevania Resurrection for Dreamcast in 2500 Euros... it was crazy as hell, but i remember that some guy at Assembler Games buy it. I believe this because Assembler Games contains probably the most incredible Video Games collectors i ever saw in my life... i mean, the beta of Propeller Arena for Dreamcast was released on internet by those guys.

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 01:16 AM #42 of 56
I too have read that the rarest and most expensive game known is Neo-Geo Kizuna Encounter. It seems that there's only 3 or so documented copies in existence, and that prices have gone well over $5,000.

Radiant Silvergun ain't that rare... I had my copy with spine card for less than $200.

The problem is that there's no official price for old games, as it happens for, say, cars. I remember following an auction for a copy of SNES Soul Blazer - it went for $203, now that's a load of cash for that game, I've seen other copies sell for considerably less.

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 02:56 AM Local time: Sep 28, 2006, 02:56 AM #43 of 56
Originally Posted by Colonel Skills
Wow, you got that whole story wrong. The carts you see on eBay are fakes. ROMs dumped onto blank carts.
Well, that was the story told to me really. I didn't even know there were fake carts on eBay at all, but thanks for letting me know about the real story then. Even though, to merely only borrow it for a couple hundred dollars is still something in and of itself.

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 03:09 AM #44 of 56
Originally Posted by SuperDK
Agree with Infernal. 32-bit era probably has the most expensive games, due to the difficulties of emulation (I think). A lot of Saturn titles are at least 60 bucks. Radiant Silvergun is also a pricey game at $120+. Man, I wish I had that game.
Agreed, some saturn games are crazy. Such as the Saturn version of Akumajo Dracula X (AKA Castlevania: Symphony of the Night) can go upwards of $150. I used to have it, and I am still kicking myself ;-)

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 10:37 AM Local time: Sep 28, 2006, 09:37 AM #45 of 56
Originally Posted by Kostaki
Well, that was the story told to me really. I didn't even know there were fake carts on eBay at all, but thanks for letting me know about the real story then. Even though, to merely only borrow it for a couple hundred dollars is still something in and of itself.
Yeah, I'm sorry that my post came off sounding al ittle harsh and angry. My bad there.

But yeah, charging a couple hundred bucks just to BORROW it is ridiculous. It's a shame that the fake carts sell for such large amounts of cash too.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 11:50 AM Local time: Sep 28, 2006, 06:50 PM #46 of 56
A SNES game, Rendering Ranger R2 seems to be quite rare. Wouldn't really care if I didn't like that game, only played it with emulator.
I saw it going for 159.99$ on eBay.

Originally Posted by Colonel Skills
With prices like that, I really should just start buying up any PAL games that look like they might be even remotely popular and turn around and sell them for profit.
I have a sealed Disgaea 1 (PAL) on my shelf. It's pretty hard to find it on sale anywhere now, let alone after a couple of years... :p

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 03:17 PM #47 of 56
Rendering Ranger, I was going to mention that. I've actually seen it go well over $250 on eBay.

Wasn't there a SNES military game (not military themed, a non-commercial game made for the military) that went over $3000 once? Do non-commercial games count?

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 05:42 PM Local time: Sep 29, 2006, 11:42 AM #48 of 56
Originally Posted by Bodomi
I have a sealed Disgaea 1 (PAL) on my shelf. It's pretty hard to find it on sale anywhere now, let alone after a couple of years...
Oh, you poor thing, I feel sorry for you. If only it were the american version.

I knew somebody with a signed american Bujingai and a signed 50 Cent: Bulletproof.

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 05:49 PM Local time: Sep 29, 2006, 08:49 AM #49 of 56
PAL Disgaea

Step one: Rape game
Check!

Step two: Release eight copies in total
Check!

Step three: Publisher whinges about lack of sales and finally realizes why
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 05:27 AM Local time: Sep 29, 2006, 11:27 PM #50 of 56
I actually had a PAL Disgaea. The thing as, I imported the american version the same time. So of course both of them showed up on the SAME DAY and I was like "oh." wondering what the hell I was going to do with both. The most disappointing thing about the PAL version is that it's printed on a CD-R.

Oh, and the instruction manual is different. I can't remember why exactly, or whatever, but I know it's different. The game looked different, but I assume that's because it wasn't on dvd. It didn't have the japanese voices, either.

Speaking of Disgaea, La Pucelle pissed me off. When I bought La Pucelle (which was released here after Disgaea, and I could ACTUALLY FIND A COPY), I was impressed by the box art tenfold.



The american box art doesn't even look like Prier. The problem is, the exact same things (disc format, lack of japanese, manual, so forth) happened with this game. I'd import the american version since I really love La Pucelle, but the box art puts me off entirely.

AND IT GOES ON. Makai Kingdom? Okay let's just release this about a YEAR apart from the american release with problems. Phantom Brave? Same deal, except I bought it since it had the Arrange OST. If it were an american version, it'd be perfect, but no, it's the PAL version and thus it sucks.

I think we can just conclude with saying Koei sucks at publishing Nippon Ichi games. Atlus seem to od a fine job of it, but not Koei. I can't say that Koei's Dynasty Warriors or their other titles have been poorly released, since I've played a whole ONE of their titles, but this was just depressing.

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