[PS2] Disgaea 2

Pretty sure you guys are wrong, the game will be pretty easy to find as with other NIS games like Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom which I see every time I go to the store. Disgaea 1 is only hard to find because it was published by Atlus, before NIS opened an USA branch.

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Originally Posted by Casaubon

Pretty sure you guys are wrong, the game will be pretty easy to find as with other NIS games like Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom which I see every time I go to the store. Disgaea 1 is only hard to find because it was published by Atlus, before NIS opened an USA branch.

I do see Makai Kingdom, but haven't seen PB or Disgaea in a store around here for at least a year. In fact, about a year ago I bought a used copy of PB and that was the only one I had seen for many months before that even... This isn't a large town though - we have two Gamestops and that's about it for game shops except for chain stores like Wal-Mart etc.

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Originally Posted by Casaubon

Pretty sure you guys are wrong, the game will be pretty easy to find as with other NIS games like Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom which I see every time I go to the store. Disgaea 1 is only hard to find because it was published by Atlus, before NIS opened an USA branch.

Possibly. I'm hoping I'm wrong, either way. It would be nice for more people to get their hands on the game.

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Well, in 5 days I will get to find out if this will be a rare game or not. I didn't pre-order so I'll be hunting for it. (In all of 2 stores lol...) Otherwise I'll just pick it up off Ebay.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I'm still getting this on the release date because I don't want it to fall into obscurity and miss my chance, even if a USA branch is now opened. I haven't sen Phantom Brave for quite a while, and luckily I saw Makai Kingdom still (as a used copy only) somewhere.

I hope the rest of the soundtrack catches my ear like Makai no Sasayaki or Mischievous Demon's Footsteps did in the first one. Out of the tracks I decided to try and get, Shinobi Dance was the only one I liked, and not even Etna Rock was excessively engaging.

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Originally Posted by Generic Badass

I've been playing it. Really just more of the same, which bugs me when I am reminded that they even took a step backwards and went back to grid movement.

Precisely. I don't mind the grid system, but I kind of feel like this game just offers more miniscule refinements to the same formula I already played and completed several times now.

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I thought I was dead-set on getting the game when it came out in North America, but now I'm not even sure.

Quite. I'll still be getting it, but it's not top of my shopping list anymore.

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Originally Posted by Casaubon

Pretty sure you guys are wrong, the game will be pretty easy to find as with other NIS games like Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom which I see every time I go to the store. Disgaea 1 is only hard to find because it was published by Atlus, before NIS opened an USA branch.

This post is made of right and wrong. You see, like everyone else said, getting Disgaea for me was actually very hard, found it after many months of hunting. Then again, Atlus is so gorgeous their games become rare pretty fast, since they make them.

My case is kinda much different, Atlus games are rarities^2 where I live, and I got one of the five copies that were sold in one store. Never saw the game again myself, and was hoping they would bring La Pucelle and Phantom Brae. Oh well.

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I might pick this up eventually but it doesn't seem like enough has really changed to make me run out and buy it. Even though I absolutely loved Disgaea I kinda wish a few more changes in the gameplay were introduced. I never played Makai Kingdom and although I enjoyed the game the free- movement battle system in Phantom Brave was interesting but took a lot of strategy out of the gameplay. I'm glad they went back tot he grid and team turns system though.

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I don't mind that they returned to grid based(to be honest, I'm not a big fan of the gridless stuff as they executed it in Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom. Maybe they need a system where depending on your weapon, class, and abilities that you block a certain radius around you from enemy units being able to move through it....unless of course they're a class with an ability that allows you to ignore the blocked radius). I don't like the sound of nothing else being changed though. Variety is important, you can't just get by on sprites and a warped sense of humor alone.

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Does anyone know a site with endgame screenshots of Disgaea 2? Every pic I've seen was just low, entry level gameplay. I remember back when before Disgaea 1 came out, there were pictures of characters at level 9999, thats what got me interested the most. I have yet to see anything like that for Disgaea 2, and I'm assuming theres no catchy theme song like 'Invasion from Within.'

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Originally Posted by Guest

Does anyone know a site with endgame screenshots of Disgaea 2? Every pic I've seen was just low, entry level gameplay. I remember back when before Disgaea 1 came out, there were pictures of characters at level 9999, thats what got me interested the most. I have yet to see anything like that for Disgaea 2, and I'm assuming theres no catchy theme song like 'Invasion from Within.'

Just go download a Tsunami Bomb CD, you ponce.

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I can't deal with that indie punk shit, or whatever the hell genre they'd fall under.

Plus, it replaced Battle Comrade in the english audiotrack, which was one of the funniest themes in a video game.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Endgame screenshots? I saw a gameplay video on Youtube showing of high level techniques like Tera Star and such, although it was from the Japanese game. You could look at some of the pics in advertisements, since those are always pretty as well.

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I just picked this up at Gamestop - it's out. They had 2 left there (besides pre-orders) when I went to pick it up. They probably have 2 or 3 copies at the other store, which means imo this is already rare at least in my area. Box art is sweet! I also saw some strategy guides that appeared to be novel/book-sized vs. 8.5x11" but I didn't pick one up.

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I also picked it up today, though I had my copy reserved (When I called asking, they asked if I had a reserve. They must've had all of the copies pre-ordered). The game definitely lives up to the standards of humor that the first game set.

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Napoleon Bonerhard, oh my god.

The english audio track, like the other NIS games, is superb. I haven't bothered turning it to japanese yet (and if it's anything like the original Disgaea I will avoid doing so :|).

All in all a very worthwhile purchase so far, only just started episode 4.

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Ahahaha, are you serious? That's fucking hilarious.

Unfortunately mine was ordered from NIS thorugh that massive preorder clusterfuck campaign from the beginning of the month. Gonna get here on Friday I assume. It was shipped PRIORITY. =o

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I played a couple hours last night, so far it's just Disgaea+. Most of the jokes are pretty funny (up to Atlus' standard). The only thing is, it just doesn't feel like Disgaea. Maybe that'll change later, but right now, it just seems like a NIS game with the Disgaea name tacked onto it.

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Originally Posted by Generic Badass

I've been playing it. Really just more of the same, which bugs me when I am reminded that they even took a step backwards and went back to grid movement.

I thought I was dead-set on getting the game when it came out in North America, but now I'm not even sure.

Funny, and the reason why I am getting it is because it's the same as the first, just offering more. I loved the first one, and hopefully the sequel will be just as funny and fun to play.

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Originally Posted by Taco

The english audio track, like the other NIS games, is superb. I haven't bothered turning it to japanese yet (and if it's anything like the original Disgaea I will avoid doing so :|).

All in all a very worthwhile purchase so far, only just started episode 4.

I don't know man, I only like Adell's English voice, the rest of the cast are just slightly above average...

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The only thing is, it just doesn't feel like Disgaea. Maybe that'll change later, but right now, it just seems like a NIS game with the Disgaea name tacked onto it.

Seconded. I've only played around 10 minutes (walking around town, didn't even start a battle yet), but this feels more like a sidestory like Makai Kingdom. I've said it before, and I re-enforce it now; Mr Bowtie is a pathetic replacement for Laharl. If he was in another game, he would've been passable, but all of his honor and morals make me beg that Laharl will knock his ass out of the main character spotlight. Which would be nice, but I doubt it.

It was especially lame when he claimed that he "didn't like girls" (and even lamer that no one made a joke about that). What is he, 18? He's way past cooties, here.

The references so far are amusing though, especially the Bridget one. And the anime intro and anime trailer were a real treat though (even if they both suffered from video compression).

The anime trailer in particular was fantastic, just as I always envisioned Disgaea to be as a series. So I can't help but wonder why the actual TV series is a massive failure (haven't seen it, but I haven't heard a single good thing about it). I'm also deeply disappointed that Etna is no longer voiced by Amanda Winn, but instead played by Sakura from Naruto. It's not like she's bad, but it's retarded to replace an excellent voice with a lesser one. I really don't know why companies don't want to keep their actors consistent. At least Laharl's never had a VA change. Mid-Boss didn't sound like he was played by the same guy either.

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I don't like the smaller and more compressed menu interface. It's like information overload with all the numbers, a reason why I didn't like Phantom Brave as much. The graphics are very colourful so far and rather different.

I'd be tempted to say that they nerfed guns big time being only able to shoot in straight lines now, but those straight lines reach reaaaallly far to make up for it. For some reason, I'm liking bows better now, probably because of the chest drop chance, and taking over the gun's former free range role.

I really was surprised with the anime intro and trailer though. They made the anime look so much better than it actually was.

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I've also noticed that guns are a lot more powerful, or at least they seem to be better than the ones offered in the first game. Rozalin is one of my main attackers and she's sticking with guns.

Also, Knights are so much BETTER in this game, holy crap. They were useless in Disgaea 1, but in 2 they're very, very nice to have.

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All Of The games Seem The Same.

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There are differences, refinements and such between Nippon Ichi games but at the core, yes, they are pretty much the same.

It doesn't make them any less fun though.

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So does the computer actually fight back now? Or is it the same inept "Kill the weakest target within range no matter how much friendly fire we have to inflict to do it" AI we've all come to know and hate. Refinements be damned, the AI is going to make or break the game for me.

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