[Movie] Spider-Man 3

Originally Posted by Simo

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It's not Brock.

Ain't It Cool News received a scoop from an untried source about major plot points from the fim last year including the finale and 2 major characters dying, 1 of which during the finale. They were forced to take the story down by Sony but not because it was true but rather because of false and misleading the info was.

Only it wasn't. The info claimed the final battle of the movie would take place on a construction with Spider-Man & Harry Vs Venom & Sandman. So far the trailer has pretty much confirmed all the info is true and yeah even I was little surprised they included that sunset shot in trailer...

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Oh wow, I kinda guessed at a Spidey & Harry team up; the recent release of the figures only reinforced that guess (Harry vs Sandman set? come on, like that wasn't obvious enough). As for that shot, I had a feeling that might have been Harry as well (ha, actually, it makes much more sense now, as both Pete and MJ are connected to him), but Brock came up first cause I thought the final battle was just Spidey vs. Venom. But after you mentioned the Sandman & Venom teaming up thing, kinda makes sense with what I've seen in the trailers + merchanding (huge ass Sandman attached to some girders).

Yea, not much left to be shocked about, thanks to the merchandising and recent trailers. Oh well, the movie should be one hell of a ride.

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I can't shake the fact that Venom is skinny... Makes him look like a poor Alien rip-off. But hey, I guess you can't have it all. Still looking forward to this movie a lot.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

There's a new scene: Venom jumping at Spiderman, which wasn't featured in the "final" trailer a few weeks ago. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/spiderman3.html

Click on the final trailer.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Seeing that a couple days ago made me wish they just CGed Venom from the start.

That pose and angle just makes him look like some demon baby...

There's nowhere I can't reach.

The third trailer is finally out on the web which mostly involves Eddie.
This was the actual trailer they showed during the previews of the 300 movie.
http://movie-list.com/s/spider-man3-trl3.html

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Select short clips from the movie available for viewing at IGN.com, such as the subway scene with Spidey vs Sandman, and the construction crane scene with Spidey and Gwen.

http://media.movies.ign.com/media/04...73/vids_1.html


Also here's a pretty good image of Venom:



http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5549

EDIT:
Oh, there's also a new TV spot featuring Venom, revealing much more footage of him, perhaps too much even....

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=5553

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The movie wasn't bad. The action was incredible, and it was certainly action-packed. I only had one or two major issues with it.

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My biggest gripe is Harry's stupid butler. "Hi, I'm your butler. I've known about everything all along, but I've kept my mouth shut and haven't told you anything for no good reason. But now that Spiderman needs you, I'm going to come out of nowhere, and in classic deus ex machina fashion turn the whole plot around, then disappear again. Would you like a crumpet with that?"

My other gripe was the simple lack of decent villain development. If you're going to be so bold as to have three villains, for Pete's sake make them more dynamic than that. And killing off Venom so easily is RIDICULOUS. I'm sorry.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Drex

The movie wasn't bad. The action was incredible, and it was certainly action-packed. I only had one or two major issues with it.

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My biggest gripe is Harry's stupid butler. "Hi, I'm your butler. I've known about everything all along, but I've kept my mouth shut and haven't told you anything for no good reason. But now that Spiderman needs you, I'm going to come out of nowhere, and in classic deus ex machina fashion turn the whole plot around, then disappear again. Would you like a crumpet with that?"

My other gripe was the simple lack of decent villain development. If you're going to be so bold as to have three villains, for Pete's sake make them more dynamic than that. And killing off Venom so easily is RIDICULOUS. I'm sorry.

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Yeah the butler did drag the plot down the tubes in the end. He was a great addition for comic relief earlier in the movie, but his omnipotent knowledge of the Osbourne household was pretty cheesy.

Venom seemed to have developed well enough I thought. We saw Eddie, then he got the staff job, then Peter ruined his life, then he became Venom. The hate was there.
As for Sandman, he was uh, kind of pointless. I really didn't care when he was on screen, at all. And making him Uncle Ben's killer was the only reason I think they could have made him an actual villain and not a douche bag who can turn into a sandstorm.

Oh and the Goblin/Harry has been building up since Spidey 1. His development has been going on throughout the series.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Sandman was so one-dimensional, and they made him near-omnipotent in power. Then Venom, while developed, was extremely linear. There wasn't any real depth to his character, only breadth. And then he wasn't as powerful as he ought to have been, I though. Venom largely worked alone in the comics if I recall correctly, so to not really even attempt taking on Spiderman alone before going to Sandman for help bugged me.

The Harry stuff was well-developed, but his character was severely hampered by where they took him - the short-term memory loss was cheesy, attacking MJ the way he did was bizarre, and the complete turn-around after the butler's revelation was dumb. There was so much they could have done there that they really didn't.

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I was reading movie reviews before i went to see the movie and those really let me down but I was determined to see it with some friends. From what I read from some user reviews, they were just being to bitchy and expecting way too much from this movie.

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Sure the plot was way too rushed (meteor landing right in their love spot =0) but overall the whole movie was the last remaining moments of friendship between the trio of mary-jane, peter, and harry.
And yeah Sandman was pretty much useless unless you count the special effects, his scenes were awesome. But then they cheated it out at the end, "fly away, fly you sandy sea salted son of a bitch".
I honestly expected less show time from venom so I was pretty much satisfied with what he had to give. Not bad, not great but just right but why kill him ;_;
I just don't understand why people were so pissy that venom didn't call himself venom. Like wtf is up with that. Doc Oc was Doc oc, the goblin was the goblin and so forth. They knew who they were you don't need to tell anyone. Plus he just arrived at the end of the movie so no one knew who it was anyways.
Overall I liked the film even with the gaps of story but thats probably becuase I'm a big spidy fan.

Although I would have liked the arrival of the symbiot to be from the animated series. I think that would have made a bit more sence and they could have done some incredibly cg work with that.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I loved the movie! Though there were some funky plot holes (like one Drex mentioned already, that was the biggest WTF moment for me), the action definitely delivered for me. Though I really was expecting a lot more black suit Spidey action than just black suit Parker. LOL, but I thought it was ridiculously hilarious when the showed the effects of symbiote on Parker's life.
Loved the movie's final battle even though it seemed a little corny at times.

Oh and Bruce Campbell's cameo for this one was great! LOL, and Jonah's bit this time was hilarious, kept LMAO. I thought Stan Lee's cameo in this was much better than the previous, where he was only in for a few seconds to pull somebody away.

The CG looked pretty good too, though Venom looked kinda cartoony at times. Oh and I really liked the score for this one, personally I thought it was a lot better than the previous films (namely the symbiote/black-suit theme).

Anyway, overall I agreed with many of the critics that mentioned that there were just too many villains/story for one movie. As some characters definitely didn't get the development they deserved *cough* Venom *cough*. Just not enough black suit Spidey or Venom.

BTW, did anyone else feel like the addition of the Stacy's seemed like a complete waste and was only done to please fanboys (or maybe anger them)?

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Originally Posted by Hantei

The CG looked pretty good too, though Venom looked kinda cartoony at times. Oh and I really liked the score for this one, personally I thought it was a lot better than the previous films (namely the symbiote/black-suit theme).

This is an interesting little announcement regarding the film's music, although I'm sure it's probably common knowledge now:

http://www.themovieblog.com/archives...lling_out.html

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Yeah well, the music is by Christopher Young with cues from Elfman. So technically he worked with Young on the third film although he did not compose anything for the movie. Anyway, on Spiderman 2 I belive Young and Debney had to complete the movie score. Even though Elfman did release a soundtrack, some of the tracks were never used and were replaced by Young dans Debney's tracks.

The music isn't so bad although I prefered Elfman's style for the movie.

As for the movie itself it wasn't so bad but clearly, it isn't the best of all three. My main complaint is the fact that there was too much stock in the movie...to much stories to tell which makes the movie way too long. The battles are cool and the characters and actors are great. (specially, that appearance by Bruce Campbell )

My main complaint: too long.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I didn't mind the movie so much, but I wouldn't reccomend seeing it in an IMAX. IMAX theatres are good for movies that are made to be shown there, but I found myself getting dizzy and disoriented during the fight scenes in Spiderman... they're too fast and they cut to different camera angles so fast that you can't even keep your bearings. It's a little bit confusing.

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The movie wasn't bad, by any means, but I can't decide if I like this or 2 better.

I actually thought Sandman was pretty cool. I've never been a big fan of him, but the movie made me like him just a bit, like 2 did with Doc Ock. And the sand effects were amazing. They've come a long way since The Mummy.

I didn't see the need to throw Gwen Stacy into this one, other than to cause more drama between Peter and MJ and to mess up the continuity even more. And, I may not have been paying enough attention but

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when did she and Eddie Brock split up for her to go on that date with Peter? It seemed like they just sort of left that bit out.

Emo Peter was great. His little Saturday Night Fever-esque strutting down the street and his pelvic thrust dance were probably the funniest damn things I've ever seen.

My main gripe with the movie was with Venom. After hearing him with the voice from the cartoon and from Marvel vs. Capcom for so long, hearing him speak with Topher Grace's voice was just too weird to me. Also he didn't speak in his trademark "symbiote-speak," referring to himself as "I" instead of "we." Not a big deal, but it's a discrepancy any Spiderman fan would catch. And he was far too scrawny. Venom/Brock is supposed to be a big muscular guy, but here, he's basically Black-Suit Spiderman with Venom's head.

Which brings me to the case of just that. Like someone said earlier, he was a little too cartoonish, mainly because of the way his head looked whenever he had his mouth open wide and was roaring or whatever. He looked like some sort of puppet. I think they could've done a better job if they'd spent more time on that.

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I was pretty surprised at how quickly they killed Venom off. It was like he appeared, fought for about 10 minutes and was gone. Blown the fuck up, definitely not coming back for any sequels. Guess we're not getting a Maximum Carnage movie any time soon. All the Carnage-haters will probably be pleased.

It was kinda cool seeing Topher Grace as a villain instead of the goody-two-shoes Eric Forman character we know from That 70's Show. But I think his role was hideously misplaced. He plays an okay villain, but not a very good Venom. Carnage, maybe. At least then he'd match the physical profile.

All in all, it's good, but it could've been better.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I loved this movie, but I can't decide if I liked this or the second one better. With all the negative reviews I'm been seeing I was a little worried at first.

The film like any other film did have it's low points

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Not enough black suit/Venom action. Peter only fights with it on just ONCE. That's right people. Just once. I'd really like it if they had at least another fight scene between Sandman or New Goblin with him wearing it or see him REALLY laying the smack down on some criminals. It's totally sucked not seeing this.

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No one besides Brock and the bugle seemed to notice the costume change. That was the biggest change in Spider-Man's appearence and not many people seemed to notice or questions as to why the change. Brock says something right before Spidey leaps into the sewers to go after Sandman and the bugle has pictures of the black Spidey. My favorite was the with Spidey shoving a criminal through a car windshield.(Which would have been awesome if it was shown)

Sandman sees him and doesn't make a comment. I was expecting MJ to see it and wonder where he got it from.

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Okay now on to the Sandman. THC was great, but I didn't like that he didn't get that much screentime. An entire subplot involving him and his family was cut out. There's was supposed to be a scene where he visits his daughters' doctor and he gets frustrated and shoves him out the window. This was shown in trailers. I hate it when they show stuff in trailers, but they don't put it in the movie.

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The final battle was great, but I'm beginning to wish that Venom didn't appear until the fourth movie. The movie could have ended with Brock getting the symbiot suit. Raimi orginally didn't want to use him, but Avi Arad forced it on him because that's who the fans wanted. Venom fans might feel gipped.

Here's two articles about future Spidey movies.

This one mentions that a character who is supposedly dead may not be dead after all.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/784/784823p1.html


Take this one with a HUGH grain of salt.

http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/blo...-Already!.html

I found it interesting but I stopped caring after I read this

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... and hopefully NO Sam Raimi. Avi Arad, please find someone who CARES what the fans think!

No...just no.

Funny isn't it...the one time Sam gives the fans what they ask for, they dislike the movie. Goes to show you something...

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by KCJ506

Here's two articles about future Spidey movies.

This one mentions that a character who is supposedly dead may not be dead after all.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/784/784823p1.html

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The only characters (Who I remember) who die in 3 are Harry and Brock. Brock got blown to hell with the symbiote, and Harry got impaled by his glider (Haha, like father, like son.) and Peter and MJ are shown attending his funeral. I really don't see how either of them could realistically come back. But I'll be pissed if they resort to some kind of Zombie Harry.

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Take this one with a HUGH grain of salt.

http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/blo...-Already!.html

I found it interesting but I stopped caring after I read this



No...just no.

Funny isn't it...the one time Sam gives the fans what they ask for, they dislike the movie. Goes to show you something...

I believe what that's referring to is how Raimi had to have his arm twisted to put Venom in 3, rather than putting him in on his own at the request of the fans. I don't see anything in that article about people disliking the movie, but I think it's pretty clear that the Raimi-bashing is because of his half-assed Venom.

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Completely screwing Venom up like he did, and killing him off in not even 20 minutes to boot, is a pretty big slap in the face to the Venom fans. It's like he's saying "There, I put him in, now he's dead, so fuck off." I wouldn't want someone like that making a movie either.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by KCJ506

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The final battle was great, but I'm beginning to wish that Venom didn't appear until the fourth movie. The movie could have ended with Brock getting the symbiot suit. Raimi orginally didn't want to use him, but Avi Arad forced it on him because that's who the fans wanted. Venom fans might feel gipped.

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That's actually what I predicting would happen too when I saw the first trailer. As I was just expecting them to do a whole arc with the symbiote/black-suit Spidey and the consequences of actions with it on Sandman. Then ending the movie with Brock getting it and plotting some vengence, allowing Venom to have his own movie.

Originally Posted by KCJ506

Here's two articles about future Spidey movies.

This one mentions that a character who is supposedly dead may not be dead after all.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/784/784823p1.html

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was Venom, rven though we saw him get blown to hell, there still a possibility. Remember Conner's still has that sample of the symbiote, maybe it'll sense out the remains.

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Just seen it and I gotta say from the moment Spiderman turns to an emo, pretty much the rest of the film besides the effects became a laughing stock imo. Sorry to the fans, but it's the most lol bad comic book film I've seen since the last Blade movie, surely you have to admit the generally emo attitude of the film trilogy compared to everything else representing Spiderman showing him as a bit of a joker gets just a little bit annoying, which I'm pretty sure is also what pissed off the viewers WolfDemon.

A friend of mine made an interesting point though, I wonder how the films would have done if James Franco and Tobey Maguire had switched roles...

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Originally Posted by S_K

A friend of mine made an interesting point though, I wonder how the films would have done if James Franco and Tobey Maguire had switched roles...

Wow what a profound observation. Hey look I can do it too:

I wonder how the films would have done if Rosemary Harris and Kirsten Dunst had switch roles...

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What you mean I have to elaborate? the script wasn't exactly gold to begin with, but given their average performances here they'd easily fit the roles better. James just has a mischievous streak to him that Tobey lacks which was always something that made Spiderman more interesting as a character, then again it's not entirely the actors to blame here I'll give you that.

how to sum up the difference... something like...:

comic spiderman: being a superhero is tough *Whine, complain*... lol that guy has 6 arms... oh fuck that's one of my teachers...

film spiderman: being a superhero is tough... *angst, whine, wrath, unintentional funny awkward moment*

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I found the song played during the Emo Spider-Man Strut montage from the movie, it's called "People Get Up And Drive Your Funky Soul" by James Brown, it's really similar to the spider-man 1967 theme song in certain parts (especially around 4:08)!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TZFEED9Z
http://rapidshare.com/files/30287065..._-jce.mp3.html

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What a shit movie. It's obvious that Raimi was a fanboy for Sandman at the expense of Venom, so we get Marko's absolute irrelevance. The movie would've been tighter if just Harry and Venom were used.

Tobey is still a ugly fucker who should be spending more of the movie in a superhero costume, but at least the strained faces were kept to a minimum.

but hey peter hitler lol


I was speaking idiomatically.

Bryce Dallas Howard... soo pretty...

Spider-Man 3... not so pretty...

Like many have said before, too much in too little time.

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Did it bother anyone else that Spidey just let the Sandman get away in the end? Forgiveness is cool and all, but JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED. I thought he would've been fully glassed by the Osborn kid, but nope. La lame.

Spiderman 2 remains my favorite in the series.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Interrobang

but hey peter hitler lol

oh god I didn't think it was possible to make that scene any more lol

FELIPE NO