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Soldier Mar 2, 2006 06:40 PM

Spider-Man 3
 
Can't believe a thread hasn't been made yet. Behold the Black Spidey!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/fe...ws.php?id=3892

So discuss all the Venom rumors, including the nonsense about Venom's face appearing if you reverse the eye and zoom in close. My stance on the whole thing is that I will not be satisfied if they do include Venom as only a last minute teaser of Spidey 4 (like what they did in Batman Begins). I don't want to wait another 4 years or so. They need to devote at least 20 minutes to a dramatic battle between Spidey and a fully revealed Venom.

Megalith Mar 2, 2006 06:43 PM

Too bad it's Spider-Man 3, idiot.

Spider-Man isn't in the poster at all. It's Venom. Venom will simply be represented as an evil clone of Spider-Man for the third film, since a faithful duplicate of his comic incarnation would take 900 years of CG.

Sorry, I am correct.

soulsteelgray Mar 2, 2006 06:45 PM

I'm kinda iffy on the whole black costume deal. When I first saw the image, I thought it was an emo-fied image of Spidey until my friend informed me that it wasn't black-and-white.

I guess I'll have to wait for more images and the teaser trailer to make a call on it, though.

Have we gone back in time? Spider-Man 2?

Kaleb.G Mar 2, 2006 07:30 PM

Title fixed. Resume your important discussion.

Acro-nym Mar 2, 2006 07:41 PM

I've seen this picture three times now and I still can't tell if that's truly a black costume, with the same silver-ish webbing on the costume, or if the picture is just really dark and shadowed. I mean, it is raining in the picture...

T1249NTSCJ Mar 2, 2006 07:44 PM

I'm weary about the scaling on that costume, those threads didn't appear in Spidey 2 even when zoomed in. :eyebrow:

J-Man Mar 2, 2006 07:46 PM

I white spidey costume would be totally bitchin'.

Arkhangelsk Mar 2, 2006 07:47 PM

I'll just be pissed if they radically re-design the Venom suit (ie: no big white spider on the chest). Who knows, maybe it only looks different on Spidey, and when it's on Eddie it will be more like the comic.

I'm still pissed about using Topher Grace for Eddie Brock. It's Eric Foreman. Fuck. But I was hoping that they would hold off on Venom until SM4, building up the character more. But as long as they don't put more than one villain in the third movie (like rumors were saying, with Sandman or something) I'll be happy.

And if Venom has adequately spectacular CG, of course.

Fire On Ice Mar 2, 2006 07:48 PM

I still can't believe there might be more then one villain. I'm not a Spidey expert but from what I've seen, one arch foe has been enough to more then just mess with Peter Parker. Besides, Tobey Maguire is really getting on my nerves.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 2, 2006 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith
Sorry, I am a fucking moron.

Corrected

acid Mar 2, 2006 08:21 PM

I'm going to say this once.

Sam Raimi has not confirmed that Topher Grace is playing Eddie Brock/Venom. It has not been confirmed that Venom is even in the film. Period.

Sony Pictures has said that the Spider-Man 3 teaser poster is not simply a black and white Spider-Man. It is the black costume. However, that still doesn't mean that Venom is in the movie. Remember, the black costume was around for 4 years before Venom came around. Before Spider-Man 1 even came out, Sam Raimi stated that he hated the character of Venom and that he wouldn't be appreaing in any of his movies.

That being said, it is a very very popular rumor. There is some evidence pointing towards this, but yet again, nothing official.

No official annoucement has been made on who Topher is playing. Until then, he could be Venom, he could be fucking Kraven for all we know.

Edit: Also that Q&A from AICN has no real source. For all we know it was a guy asking his neighbour who is going to be in Spider-Man 3.

Simo Mar 2, 2006 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Acro-nym
I've seen this picture three times now and I still can't tell if that's truly a black costume, with the same silver-ish webbing on the costume, or if the picture is just really dark and shadowed. I mean, it is raining in the picture...

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/images/top.jpg
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/im...gle_header.jpg
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/images/back.jpg

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/images/footer.gif
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/

AICN also had this Q&A up which they supposebly received before the photo was released that delved into which villains will be showing up, the deal with Venom, who dies etc but then was "told" to remove it by Sony....

...Here it is though for anyone interested:
Spoiler:
Q1. Who are the villains and how much screentime does each one get?

A. Venom,Sandman, and GG2. Sandman is the main one, building up to venom at end. GG has a good amount,
though not sure how much time. He's in 2 major battles.

Q2.Does the GG look cool,how much green does he have on him, is his black snow suit have a black hood that covers the top of his head,do the belts on his legs hold pumpkin bombs,is his goggles yellow lens,does he wear gloves of any kind,and why does Harry go with this suit instead of the one his father used?

A. He looks cool as an individual idea. But again, nothing remotely goblin like about him except the weapons, glider and some green on him. No hood, the belts hold two swords. One long one on his back, a smaller one on his right leg. Pumpkins bombs are in his glider. Goggles are black. He has a green mouthmask. Gloves are black. No idea why. Possible to make it more to his liking, a way to "improve".

Q3.Does Venom fight in this movie or does he just show up as a cliffhanger?

A. Yes he fights. Again, he will fight Spidey with Sandman at the end, the movie leads up to this "battle royale" at the construction site. GG will also join in the fight, but not on the sides of Ven/San. GG fights with Spidey instead.

A.I've seen the costume of Venom (yes hes in it, but only towards the end) and its extremely cool. Think all black latex with veins all over his upper half, reaching over onto his arms. However the veins also shape into the Spider thats on his chest in the comics (no white). Venom will be a little larger than. spidey. Basically the bad version of spidey. Venom has nasty teeth, no where near exaggerated in the comics. Just really sharp yellow teeth, very fang like, it will be prosthetics. Tongue will be CG.

Q5.I'm kinda confused,does spidey wear the symbiote before Brock gets it?

A.Yes. After his date with MJ, the symbiote clings to his shoe and waits for Parker in his room one night. He then wakes up upside down on the side of a building wearing the symbiote costume.

Q6.If spidey does wear the symbiote,what does it look like exactly?

A.The same costume as blue/red only black with all the scale detail and webbing over it. Not impressive. It looks like this because it stuck onto his old costume then it clung on Peter.

Q7.And how long does he wear the suit?

A.For right now, a good chunk since the movie is about Peter and how the symbiote possesses him, and the decisions he has to make.

Q8.Who does he fight with it?

A.Sandman, robbers, and Harry

Q9.What makes him take it off?

A.Bell Tower.

Q10.What kind of things does Sandman do in this movie power wise?

Grows a lot. Sandstorms. Hand as a sledgehammer and mace. The FX will raise the bar.

Q11.Where do all the fights take place on/at?

A.All over. In the air/Alley, underground subway, armoured truck in the streets, construction site.

Q12.Is there a cliffhanger at the end of this movie?

A.Not currently. But there is one scene that leaves questions opened about the return of the symbiote.

Q13.Who does Bruce Campbell play?

A.He has a cameo as somebody named Quentin Beck.

Q14.Where does the symbiote come from?

A.An astroid.

Q15.Does spidey wear his regular red and blue spidey suit in the movie?

Yes. At the beginning and end of the movie.
Q16.Is S-M3 and S-M4 being made back to back?

A.Nope.

Q17.Is Venom going to be the villain for S-M4,or is S-M3 going to be it for him?

A.End of the line for Brocks version of Venom, but not the symbiote itself.

Q18.Are there lots of fights/action in this movie?

A.TONS. Four BIG fight sequences. All very fun, and clever. Wont be disappointed in that department. Be prepared for A LOT of fight sequences including a revisit to the subway fight sequence (only underground this time).


Q19. What is that church for?

A.The church sequence is used when Black Symbiote Spidey attempts to tear his suit off by the ringing of the church bell. Unknown to him that right under him in the church Brock is walking in where pieces of the symbiote land on him and then bond with him.


Q20. Do GG2 and Spidey ever face off?

A.Yes. I will mention one fight scene at the beginning of the movie in particular. Harry in full GG Glory first attacks peter, and tosses him into the side of the building. This also where they have a huge airal fight sequence leading to a chase into an alley where (yes as a previous plot spoiler had reported) Harry is knocked out and Peter saves him and brings him to a hospital.


Q21. How much screen time does Dr.Connors have,does he mention anything about lizard experiments?

A. Connors studies the symbiote sample. So we see the inside of his lab. A lot of Lizards references.

Q22.Who dies?
A. Harry and Aunt May.

Megalith Mar 2, 2006 08:32 PM

Sorry, but I gotta call bullshit.

Why would they practically spell out the entire movie.

Newbie1234 Mar 2, 2006 08:46 PM

There's a more than just a TON of expectations heaped on Spidey 3. I can't see how Raimi's going to pull this off, but I'll definitely be watching this the day it's in theatres.

The black suit doesn't impress me much, just a way to get some free publicity, and build up hype.

I just hope they don't screw up the "look" of Venom, and give Bruce Campbell another memorable cameo.

Soldier Mar 2, 2006 09:56 PM

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Title fixed. Resume your important discussion.
I typed Spider-Man 2? Damn. ><

Quote:

Sorry, I am speculating just like everyone else. I don't know shit.
Fixed.

Here's a cool fan-shopped image of the same pic.

http://images.aintitcool.com/images2...ackenstein.jpg

I'm pretty sure Sandman won't be the main villain. I honestly always viewed Sandman as a B grade villain. The hired muscle, if you will. I think Sandman's screentime will only serve as a flashy opening, and nothing more. I can't really imagine a whole movie dedicated to him.

Even with Hobgoblin, I think there's enough time to develop Brock and the black costume. Near the end, Peter gets rid of the suit, and it bonds with Eddie. Then, just when you think the movie is nearing the end, an extra 20 minutes is added to have Spidey clash with a newly created Venom.

To me, the perfect way to introduce Venom would be his first encounter with MJ in the comics, where he's standing in the shadows, and she thinks it's Peter. But then a twisted smile forms around the black mask, and the hulking figure steps out of the shadows. "Hi, Honey...."

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/...mazing300a.jpg

That would be so awesome.

Dizzy Mar 2, 2006 10:00 PM

I found this in IMDB forums...It may clear some stuff...
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6...eyhouse2uz.jpg

Megalith Mar 2, 2006 10:31 PM

Yeah.

You can even see Galactus fighting Silver Surfer if you squint hard enough.

chato Mar 2, 2006 10:35 PM

i was hoping itd be more like the spider-man animated series(the neogenic nightmare..or was it symbiot-err fuck it)... but oh well. im looking forward to this anyway. i just hope Eric Foreman doesn't fuck up..this is one of those big films and i hope he does a great job as eddie brock.

Hantei Mar 2, 2006 10:56 PM

So, uh, who isn't is/are the villain(s)?

I'm assuming Green Goblin will make a return (as it was kinda implied by the end of 2) and now I hear Sandman and Venom are in the movie. With the later being more of a rumor.

So, yea, could someone give a clear list as to who the new villain(s) is/are?

Simo Mar 2, 2006 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hantei
So, uh, who isn't is/are the villain(s)?

I'm assuming Green Goblin will make a return (as it was kinda implied by the end of 2) and now I hear Sandman and Venom are in the movie. With the later being more of a rumor.

So, yea, could someone give a clear list as to who the new villain(s) is/are?

Sandman and Venom seem a given considering we've already seen a photo of Thomas Hayden Church as Flint Marko AKA Sandman and Spider-Man in the black suit pretty much confirms Venom showing up in some form or another.

Soldier Mar 2, 2006 11:14 PM

The only confirmed villain is Sandman. The rest are rumored, including Venom, Electro, Green Goblin II, Hobgoblin, Vulture, and Mysterio. Oh, and Kraven too, I guess. It's either Hobgoblin and/or Venom.

T1249NTSCJ Mar 2, 2006 11:34 PM

GG2 has to be in Spider-Man 3 with the ending the gave us in the 2nd. Unless they plan on pulling off what was done from Batman Returns to Forever. :aargh:

Soldier Mar 3, 2006 01:39 AM

And uh, what did they pull off from Batman Returns to Forever?

Megalith Mar 3, 2006 02:02 AM

http://comicsnewsi.net//g/albums/DC/...batman/Cat.jpg

Kilroy Mar 3, 2006 03:25 AM

Haha, I actually laughed out loud when reading that
Spoiler:
Bruce Campbell "should" play Quentin Beck.


I wouldn't mind if S-M3 played out like the spoiler above, but no matter what, I'm pretty sure that it's going to be good.
I for one liked Tobey's Peter Parker, for that matter, all the actors. They just seemed right in my book.


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