South Park makes fun of Family Guy's poor writing...

Originally Posted by JazzFlight

So what you're saying is you hate the fans who DON'T look beneath the fart jokes and obvious jabs?

Parker and Stone are oily as fucking snakes about the whole business, and most people seem to be latching onto their rush to judgment, whatever that judgment might be. Doesn't it make you a bit wary when all of a sudden people are saying the heads should roll, and citing a caricature as an example of why it should be done?

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You've repeatedly said that it's hypocritical, but you haven't backed it up with an example.

I said it once, yeah.
Look at the most recent episode. For a minute I saw some genuine moderation int heir approach, because instead of the solitary Voice Of Reason that no one listens to, they had two conflicting and perfectly reasonable points of view between Cartman and the guy who spoke up in the town hall. I knew they had to be playing an angle, because it was Cartman saying it.

Sure enough, what do they do? Admit that the issue isn't as easy as it first appears? Hell no. One opinion gets thrown out the window because it's Cartman saying it, and he is, in fact, playing an angle. The other one wins by default.

They're hypocrites because they tend towards this judgmental oversimplification, this kind of ivory tower bullshit, when every single episode is about the people in the town who are too arrogant and stupid to take a step back and look at themselves for a second.

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Well, I don't know how that makes them hypocrites.

I think it makes their show have a certain message or opinion they want to express. They have an agenda each episode. They're not obligated to show the other side's rebuttal, this isn't some debate show.

I agree that people just citing South Park as their own basis of opinion is narrow-minded. I might agree with Matt and Trey most of the time, but sometimes they're way off mark (I didn't find the Mel Gibson "Passion of the Jew" episode truthful at all).

Ultimately, it's just like fans of any satirical show (like the Daily Show). If they're getting their news and opinions FROM the show, they're just sheep. However, if you're going into the show knowing the issue beforehand and either defending or reinforcing your beliefs through the episode, South Park is an excellent show.

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight

I agree that people just citing South Park as their own basis of opinion is narrow-minded. I might agree with Matt and Trey most of the time, but sometimes they're way off mark (I didn't find the Mel Gibson "Passion of the Jew" episode truthful at all).

But don't you agree with the fact that the movie was made to cash in on people's feelings towards the demise of Christ? I mean, why make a movie on the death of an important figure, like Christ, instead of trying to make one to show is message to the world?

I know the whole 'Gibson going Ape Shit' thing was funny but not truthful, but the main message of the episode was spot on. Don't you think?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, I guess this thread's more of a South Park debate thread now (maybe move to Political Palace?), but I might as well respond.

Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist

But don't you agree with the fact that the movie was made to cash in on people's feelings towards the demise of Christ? I mean, why make a movie on the death of an important figure, like Christ, instead of trying to make one to show is message to the world?

The whole point is it's called "The Passion of the Christ."

Of course Mel Gibson wanted to make the movie about that one moment, as it means so much to the Christian faith. I don't see why you have to include all of Jesus' teachings in this particular movie. Haven't there already been enough movies/books/church sermons/broadway musicals about that?

And "cashing in" doesn't seem right, I mean, Gibson only made so much money due to controversy and word of mouth. And due to it being a good movie (in my opinion).

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight

Well, I guess this thread's more of a South Park debate thread now (maybe move to Political Palace?), but I might as well respond.

The whole point is it's called "The Passion of the Christ."

Of course Mel Gibson wanted to make the movie about that one moment, as it means so much to the Christian faith. I don't see why you have to include all of Jesus' teachings in this particular movie. Haven't there already been enough movies/books/church sermons/broadway musicals about that?

And "cashing in" doesn't seem right, I mean, Gibson only made so much money due to controversy and word of mouth. And due to it being a good movie (in my opinion).

Yeah. Still haven't seen it though. One of my friends is one tough SOB who doesn't belive at all in Christ and I saw him come out of the theater, crying like a baby.

Me too, I don't really believe in all that non-sense, but I stayed away from it because it seemed like it was the 'IT' thing at the time. I might finally watch it now.

But I sure hope they make a SOUTH PARK episode out of those 9/11 movies. If that ain't cashing in on the American's feelings, I don't know what it is.

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Tonight's Family Guy felt a little less than stellar, since it inhibited the very problem I addressed earlier. I just don't find the singing sketches too funny, and Seth Mcfarlane has a perverse need to toss in as many as he can (just get your ass to the Idol already). The problem is these bits lose meaning to anyone who isn't familiar with the song or the irony surrounding it (like myself).

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist

But I sure hope they make a SOUTH PARK episode out of those 9/11 movies. If that ain't cashing in on the American's feelings, I don't know what it is.

Alan Jackson (country singer) did a 9/11 song, and South Park lambasted him for leeching off peoples' emotions. The Ladder to Heaven episode =p I disagree with their viewpoint there, since Alan Jackson is a rather nice fellow. He was moreso making a tribute song, and several were made in the Country genre. Still, I got a nice laugh out of the episode.


"o/` Where were you when they built that ladder to heaven?... Uhm... Er... Nine-Eleveeeeen."
"*sobbing*"

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Gechmir

Alan Jackson (country singer) did a 9/11 song, and South Park lambasted him for leeching off peoples' emotions. The Ladder to Heaven episode =p I disagree with their viewpoint there, since Alan Jackson is a rather nice fellow. He was moreso making a tribute song, and several were made in the Country genre. Still, I got a nice laugh out of the episode.


"o/` Where were you when they built that ladder to heaven?... Uhm... Er... Nine-Eleveeeeen."
"*sobbing*"

Crap! I forgot! LOL

But the thing that makes me nervous with these sorts of things is that when they do these 'tributes' for these horrible events, they cash in thousands upon thousands, say millions, of dollars and instead, they could give the profits away to the families.

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER

The problem is these bits lose meaning to anyone who isn't familiar with the song or the irony surrounding it (like myself).

Yes that is true. Even though it's a show considered for adults, kids make up much of the ratings. The kids don't know those old songs and etc. so it pretty much alienates them on some episodes.

The simpsons does it too, but not as much.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

It looks like there WILL be a second episode to this Family Guy saga according to the very reliable www.mrtwig.net.

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But when they dedicate an entire episode to said references, the other demographs miss out.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by evergreen

It looks like there WILL be a second episode to this Family Guy saga according to the very reliable www.mrtwig.net.

I dunno~

The TV trailers just showed clips from the first-part episode. This feels like the Lemmywinks prank =p

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About tonight's episode:

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They fake you out with a Terance and Philip intro, that tonight's episode has been interrupted, but it plays as usual. And the secret of the Family Guy writers? They're manatees.

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I'm eagerly waiting for a torrent for episode 1004 to become avaible on the internet, I guess I will have to wait until tomorrow

whats up with www.spcomplete.com, is it down or are they updating it to put up info on cartoon wars 2 or what?

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I said "I knew it" aloud once a Terrence & Phillip thing clipped on. Then groaned when it turned out to be a fluke =p I love how Phillip is still obese xD

Quite a nice episode. I love the "epic battle"/slap-fight.

And in regards to Moo-ham-med? It seems Comedy Central DID "puss out"

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist

Pretty much sums-up my opinion. A show with some pretty lame writing.

South Park makes fun of Family Guy's poor writing

I saw that episode. That scene was so damn funny.:lolsign: :lolsign: :lolsign:

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Cool, that is!

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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I thought I was right in the first 30 seconds ;__;

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