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Old Apr 9, 2006, 05:12 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 07:12 PM #26 of 70
Originally Posted by soniclover
Yes, definitely. But somehow, I don't think they are doing this of their own choice. I think if Family Guy went back to every episode having a good theme, that would pretty much make it the new and better simpsons.

I wonder if they have to make it extra random in these new episodes to keep away from the Simpsons category.
Are you saying they hired bad writers so that it won't be good enough to be categorized as a good show?

South Park seems to have reached the point where everything it touches turns to gold, and I have to admit I really don't get it. It has some good writing, but it seems to fall back a lot of times on sex jokes and exploding kneecaps.

Ohhhh, man! They bashed one of america's favorite cult shows!
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You're the type of person who just doesn't 'get' South Park. They never shyed away that they love doing Dick and Fart Jokes but underneath it all, it's criticizing everything wrong with the world, be it from the Lefties or the Righties.

Also, do you even know what 'cult' is?

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 05:21 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 05:21 PM #27 of 70
Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
Are you saying they hired bad writers so that it won't be good enough to be categorized as a good show?
No, I'm saying they possibly told them to not get episodes too based on Family Matters because that's the Simpsons territory.

I say this only because the old Family Guy was actually stable. It wasn't as random and the day after you watch it, you could atleast remember the plot and not just a few funny cutscenes.

It's just a theory, but they could just be focusing more on random humor more than actually trying to focus on a plot like the older episodes.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 05:24 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 05:24 PM #28 of 70
Trey and Matt have a lot of nerve bashing another show for its writing when South Park follows the same stale format with every single episode. They've improved somewhat with Kenny not dying every time, the epiphanies not suddenly dawning on Stan or Kyle, and the smoking episode when they made fun of their own schtick. That doesn't mean that it isn't any less old or tired.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 05:26 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 05:26 PM #29 of 70
Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
You're the type of person who just doesn't 'get' South Park. They never shyed away that they love doing Dick and Fart Jokes but underneath it all, it's criticizing everything wrong with the world, be it from the Lefties or the Righties.
Did you bother to read the rest of my post? I'm pretty sure that it talked about satire, and the fact that a lot of people decide satire is critical of everyone except themselves, which makes the act of satirization pointless.

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Also, do you even know what 'cult' is?
Do you? When was the last time you talked to your mom about what happened on the last episode of Family Guy?

It's the TV equivalent of Marilyn Manson or Rocky Horror Picture Show. it may be popular, but only with a certain demographic, and only because it makes every effort not to look like your average sitcom.

Seriously, piss off if you're not going to try to comprehend what I'm saying.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:06 PM #30 of 70
I haven't really watched Family Guy that much since it came back on the air again. Out of the few episodes I did catch, however, they really were just a series of flashbacks strung together for 20 mins.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:11 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 06:11 PM #31 of 70
Family Guy has turned into just another show that entertains the ADHD generation.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:40 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 08:40 PM #32 of 70
Originally Posted by soniclover
No, I'm saying they possibly told them to not get episodes too based on Family Matters because that's the Simpsons territory.

I say this only because the old Family Guy was actually stable. It wasn't as random and the day after you watch it, you could atleast remember the plot and not just a few funny cutscenes.

It's just a theory, but they could just be focusing more on random humor more than actually trying to focus on a plot like the older episodes.
So, basically, The Simpsons are the first to have family matters in them?

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Did you bother to read the rest of my post? I'm pretty sure that it talked about satire, and the fact that a lot of people decide satire is critical of everyone except themselves, which makes the act of satirization pointless.



Do you? When was the last time you talked to your mom about what happened on the last episode of Family Guy?

It's the TV equivalent of Marilyn Manson or Rocky Horror Picture Show. it may be popular, but only with a certain demographic, and only because it makes every effort not to look like your average sitcom.

Seriously, piss off if you're not going to try to comprehend what I'm saying.

Wow. Family Guy is cult. I like you. I really do, you've enlighten me.

And sorry, I like South Park. I think I'll stay.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:43 PM #33 of 70
Of course not.



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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:44 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 06:44 PM #34 of 70
Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
So, basically, The Simpsons are the first to have family matters in them?
It's pretty much an Animated Show clash

Simpsons is a popular animated Show. Family Guy is a popular Animated Show.

You have to keep them apart. So one has to have a plot, one doesn't and just has random humor.

Again, it's just a theory I came up with.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:46 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 05:46 PM #35 of 70
Originally Posted by soniclover
It's pretty much an Animated Show clash

Simpsons is a popular animated Show. Family Guy is a popular Animated Show.

You have to keep them apart. So one has to have a plot, one doesn't and just has random humor.

Again, it's just a theory I came up with.
If this was true, American Dad never would have been made.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:48 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 06:48 PM #36 of 70
American Dad isn't on the same popularity level as Family Guy and the Simpsons.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:49 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 05:49 PM #37 of 70
Still, if they were worried about this in the first place, they would have never made the show to begin with, just in case it did get as popular as those other two.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:53 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 06:53 PM #38 of 70
Yes this is true.

This is why I just came up with a theory. :doh:

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 06:53 PM #39 of 70
Hey, there's quite a demographic that enjoy completely random humor to the extent that the people who write the show notice and pile it on nearly to a breaking point.

Whatever sells, right?

(EDIT: Aieee, spend ten minutes looking through the posts to have a crash of new ones to see when you post yourself!)

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 07:27 PM Local time: Apr 10, 2006, 01:27 AM #40 of 70
Hey what DATE does the second episode air? (Where Eric goes to LA to get the show shut down)

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 07:54 PM #41 of 70
From what I remember, April 12th.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 08:02 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 07:02 PM #42 of 70
There won't be a second episode

Matt & Trey do this stuff often. It's part of the gag, I believe.

Also, remember the famous episode which was dubbed "Lemmywinks' Return" episode ;D I thought it was hilarious that he wasn't even *in* it. The episode won't be continued. They'll be on a new topic in a different storyline next time.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 08:12 PM Local time: Apr 10, 2006, 02:12 AM #43 of 70
Originally Posted by Gechmir
There won't be a second episode

Matt & Trey do this stuff often. It's part of the gag, I believe.

Also, remember the famous episode which was dubbed "Lemmywinks' Return" episode ;D I thought it was hilarious that he wasn't even *in* it. The episode won't be continued. They'll be on a new topic in a different storyline next time.
Dude, did you see the "next time on... South Park!" clip near the end? Why wouldn't there be a sequel?

Anyway I really don't care, I love South Park all the same. :biggrin:

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 08:32 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 07:32 PM #44 of 70
Just because they have a "next time" clip doesn't mean they'll do it >_> Like I said, it's part of the gag. The folks hoping for the next episode will tune in to find it is a different episode entirely. The whole "next time" clip was meant to be very corny.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 09:27 PM #45 of 70
Originally Posted by Skexis
SO, they make fun of people who bury their heads in the sand. Now, of course no one's going to admit that they do so. They stand there with a shovel and a 20 lb bag in their hand and say, "Well, glad I'm not one of those stupid fuckers with their head in the sand."
What?

You mean to say, "they make fun of people who distance themselves from the Denmark cartoons and appease the upset Muslims out of fear of violent uprising."

The correct voice in this episode was the one guy in the town meeting who suggested that everyone make an offensive cartoon, if only to make use of freedom of speech.

Look beneath the surface. This is a show centered around current events.

The last episode dealing with Chef and the "Super Adventure Club" (a.k.a. Scientolgy) was very tongue-in-cheek and you had to know what was going on with the production of South Park (the previous episode against Scientology being pulled, Isaac Hayes leaving, etc...) to "get it."

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 09:35 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 09:35 PM #46 of 70
Oh man, they sure showed him! "They got you good, you fucker!"

I find this rather immature. If you're really tuning into this as some sort of praise-worthy cartoon, pull your head out of your ass. Not only is the childish mockery in the show rediculous, the personal jab at a former cast member is just as bad.

Despite the fact I'd take Simpsons and Futurama (ESPECIALLY FUTURAMA) over Family Guy, I find the quality of that show to be tons better. I dislike it because of recycling the same idea: Flashbacks.

However, I'd lower them just as low as South Park if there was some sort of retaliation episode. Both shows are pretty lame, but doing this is stupid.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Apr 9, 2006, 09:42 PM #47 of 70
Originally Posted by Lukage
Oh man, they sure showed him! "They got you good, you fucker!"

I find this rather immature. If you're really tuning into this as some sort of praise-worthy cartoon, pull your head out of your ass. Not only is the childish mockery in the show rediculous, the personal jab at a former cast member is just as bad.
Why? Please explain your points.

I personally think it's more honest than most other shows on television right now.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 10:09 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 10:09 PM #48 of 70
Originally Posted by JazzFlight
Look beneath the surface.
I understand what's going on very well. It's kinda hard to miss when they start throwing "mohammed cartoons" into the dialogue. But who among the audience is going to actually stop for a second and think, "you know, maybe I should take a second look at what's going on here, and how this might affect me."

Judging from all the comments I see about the show, not very many. They would rather pretend that the whole world has these problems, rather than looking for the similarities in their own lives, which makes the goal of the show an exercise in people who like to talk just to hear themselves speak.

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The last episode dealing with Chef and the "Super Adventure Club" (a.k.a. Scientolgy) was very tongue-in-cheek and you had to know what was going on with the production of South Park (the previous episode against Scientology being pulled, Isaac Hayes leaving, etc...) to "get it."
I know very well what they are saying. The way that they say it is preachy, and for me, it got old very quick, being that they're such hypocrites about the whole thing. Whether they parody themselves does not change the fact that they are, like Brady said, a very formulaic show.

And what I don't "get" is not the plot, or the meaning of the show, but why everyone has decided that it is LOL FUNY when the song and dance is the same old shit.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 10:18 PM #49 of 70
So what you're saying is you hate the fans who DON'T look beneath the fart jokes and obvious jabs?

Because I find intelligent satire in it. Does that still mean it's a crappy show?

You've repeatedly said that it's hypocritical, but you haven't backed it up with an example.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 10:24 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 09:24 PM #50 of 70
Originally Posted by Gechmir
There won't be a second episode

Matt & Trey do this stuff often. It's part of the gag, I believe.

Also, remember the famous episode which was dubbed "Lemmywinks' Return" episode ;D I thought it was hilarious that he wasn't even *in* it. The episode won't be continued. They'll be on a new topic in a different storyline next time.
Yeah, I was thinking that too. It's not that hard to believe, especially since the episode that aired before that (The Return of Chef) had a fake 'previously on South Park' at the beginning.

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