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Glenn killed the howler in the event that this effects your turn, wvlf.

I was speaking idiomatically.

In retrospect.....


...that princess is a cunt.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Zergrinch

I liked Freddy better when he was trying to incinerate us.

Problem, Zerg?

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Anyways I rolled the death saves for Garr/Skex so it's Hawkeye's turn.

Oh, and the rampager's dead so

FELIPE NO

Soooo Hawkeye's in hospital so I need someone to cover for him for a while. Hopefully he won't be gone for more than a couple weeks...

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

DING DONG I'M UP AGAIN MOTHERFUCKERS

REPRESENT

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Don't be a dick when playing his character. The Mage is fine, but don't wreck us for no reason.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm just going to try to inject some life into the boring-as-fuck crew here, son. Don't be shitting your panties just yet.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'm back from the hospital and not going camping any more. So until next weekend, i'm back.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Zephyrin

Don't be a dick when playing his character. The Mage is fine, but don't wreck us for no reason.

You got off easy, I half-expected him to try to knock the orb loose again and go for the high score. 100 damage with a single ball gets you a free play, after all.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I think we (Puyet most of all) do need the extended rest, though where that should be is the question. Retreat, go onward, or stay?

I vote to sleep in this stinky stinky room which definitely won't attract any more yetis!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Garr, if you plan on equipping the greatsword (and I don't see why not - your attack accuracies improve to at least +11; +13 when you ditch plate armor), may I take back the augmenting whetstone? It no longer gives any bonus since you're using a +2 weapon.

Man, there's got to be a +2 longbow/superior crossbow/greatbow lying around somewhere.

FELIPE NO

To wield it he'd have to get rid of his shield, though. And his Defensive Challenge feat basically doesn't work if he has no shield.

Treasure that looks really good but actually has huge usability problems: that's what Pang likes

How ya doing, buddy?

Give Zerg a +3 magic blowpipe.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Pangalin

To wield it he'd have to get rid of his shield, though. And his Defensive Challenge feat basically doesn't work if he has no shield.

Treasure that looks really good but actually has huge usability problems: that's what Pang likes

Man. That's so evil, it's delicious! Jots down notes

Though, it may not be as problematic as you may think. As you noted earlier, none of us have yet to take advantage of his Defensive Challenge feat. I suspect it's because it's best used for big bad evil solos; you've been throwing waves of regular enemies, so marking one out of 8 isn't going to matter. It's too situational; certainly that's what I've been feeling about Cal's retraining to Guardian Arrow. Should've retrained Careful Attack to Nimble Strike :/

Garr may feel it more with the -2 AC/Reflex hit and inability to use Shield Bash. Oh well, there's always an option to pick it up and transfer enchantment. Wanna pick up Garland's Scale armor, Garr?

I would argue the plate trap armor you offered to him fits the bill much more

Originally Posted by Shin

Give Zerg a +3 magic blowpipe.

I welcome this, if only for the fact that the cheapest +3 blowgun can be resold for at least 1800 gp

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I just didn't bother to read his feats until all this mention, otherwise I might have taken advantage of those powers.

But now that we have GFZ, keeping track of all the marks is becoming difficult.

Most amazing jew boots

Looks like Pang's daily item houserule has just become part of the official rules. I guess we'll have to wait and see how 'rare' and 'uncommon' items are delineated. Based on the writeup, I understand items with daily powers (like Cal's longbow) are uncommon, while those with encounters (like the Bloodclaw sword) and at-wills are rare.

Will you be adopting Essentials modifications into your campaign, Pang? I'm not quite sure on how to view the Essentials line. I understand some forums are calling it 4.5E or something, not that I appreciate how 3E and 3.5E differ.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Essentials and 4th are different animals. Essentials is more or less just a slimmed down version, an even faster pick up and play than the already ridiculously simple 4th edition.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Essentials and 4E are "different animals" in the same way that dogs and puppies are different animals.

By which I mean that they're the same animal, but one version is slightly less intimidating.

Essentials are just books with class builds and monsters in them. You know, like all the other 4E books. These builds and monsters may be skewed toward slightly less complex play. This does not make them in any way incompatible with the "core". They all share a common label because they have "Friendly To New Players" as a shared conceit, much like the Dark Sun books share a common label because they have "Ha ha, you will choke on silt and die" as a shared conceit. People pretending that Essentials is somehow a separate product line or a separate ruleset are either stupid, misinformed, or deliberately disseminating misinformation.

(Races, Classes and Monsters are not part of the game's rules, in much the same way individual Magic cards are not part of the rules. They're content. Essentials does not have different rules, because it's 4E. There is no such game as Essentials.)

If I have a Dungeon Master's Guide from 2008, and you have a Dungeon Master's Kit from 2010, and we both start up a game... we're both playing the same game. Can you stat up a Dwarven Slayer Fighter and play it in my game? Yes. Can I stat up a Githyanki Psion and play it in your game? Yes.

As for this campaign if people want to play a Slayer or a Warpriest or a Thief that's just fine with me since it will introduce no incompatibility issues whatsoever. And as you point out the changes to item powers change nothing and it's not like I follow standard treasure distribution procedure in the first place so there aren't really any "modifications" for me to adopt. It's just more Stuff. I like Stuff. Some of it isn't very interesting Stuff, but it's all harmless Stuff.

tl;dr tedious grognard lies make me wanna smash a bro

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Originally Posted by Zergrinch

while those with encounters (like the Bloodclaw sword) and at-wills are rare

Bloodclaw is considered by a lot of players to be one of the most powerful and broken item properties in the game, but I don't think either you or Garr have ever actually activated that power because you're all so utterly petrified of taking damage. It's kind of adorable.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Okay then, Essentials will change nothing here. Gotcha.

Originally Posted by Pangalin

Bloodclaw is considered by a lot of players to be one of the most powerful and broken item properties in the game, but I don't think either you or Garr have ever actually activated that power because you're all so utterly petrified of taking damage. It's kind of adorable.

Well, that and Cal has to be pretty desperate to bust out the melee weapons. At least the claw fighter claws let him twin strike still, just with horrible results

But eh, so we get to inflict 2 HP of damage on 1 enemy every encounter, and take 1 HP of damage. Hardly seems broken to me, at least in heroic. Even if it were an at-will, we'd lose in a war of attrition unless we have trollhide bracers or something like that.

FELIPE NO

Pang, did Glenn pick up the rest of the stuff before leaving? I said he did, but neglected to do anything to point it out.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Oops, guess I skimmed over that somehow. Scroll, sword and crown are in Glenn's inventory now.

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Also I don't think there will be an incoming character right now since 6 PCs seemed to add significantly more than 20% additional unwieldiness. It was a fun idea at the time but it's just a little bit too much to monitor on a permanent basis.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

How do these potions work if I use them on somebody else? Sure, I could just hand them over for them to drink, but it'd be more fun to cram them down their throats.


Also, what does training in armor do? I haven't been able to figure this out or find it in the handbook.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Armor Training lets you wear that type of armor without a penalty. Like, for example, Garr has no training in plate armor which is why he's got all the combat efficacy of a comatose trout. If he was trained, he would get all the upsides of plate armor and none of the downsides. But he lacks the CON score requisite to actually get the training, alas.

You can administer a potion to an ally as a Standard Action, so run over and just cram it in their faces at your leisure.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Who spends the healing surge, me?

Also, probably does matter, but you gave me my armor proficiency outside of my warlord specialization. Kept wondering why I couldn't find it.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

No, the one whose HP is being replenished.

Your scale proficiency's coming from the "Armored Warlord" feat.

Hawk, Garr can make use of the sword if he buys a longsword for 15GP and transfers the enchantment for 175GP.

I was speaking idiomatically.