[Movie] WWE/TNA fanfiction thread

Prediction Time.

TNA World Heavyweight Championship
- AJ Styles (c) vs. Daniels.
Winner: Styles. Amazingly, Daniels gets a main event slot. Quite a turn around from one year ago where he got fired via the Curry Man and two years ago when he got fired as....well Daniels. Even more amazing that you went from these two guys being the best of friends and celebrating Styles win to this.

Three Degrees of Pain
- Kurt Angle vs. Desmond Wolfe.
Winner: Wolfe. I can't see Wolfe losing two big matches in a row. Watch for them to tie things up and perhaps Jarrett coming back to whack Angle in the head with a guitar to give Wolfe the win.

Last Man Standing
- Bobby Lashley vs. Scott Steiner.
Winner: Same as Angle / Wolfe. I can't see Lashley, who is going for a world title shot in the future, losing here. Watch for Lashley to win it.

- Mick Foley & Abyss vs. Raven & Dr. Stevie.
Winner: Everyone around the world is saying that Stevie / Raven don't really stand a chance. I think we are all forgetting that 1.) Foley is already doing another (I guess?) heel turn to go agianst Hogan, 2.) is already showing signs of leaving Abyssi n the dark, and 3.) just feuded with him two months prior. Watch for Foley to leave Abyss alone, with Raven helping Stevie gets the win.

TNA World Tag Team Championships
- The British Invasion (c's) vs. The Motor City Machineguns.
Winners: THe MCMG are due for a tag title reign. However, I don't think they'll get it here. So BI retains. Watch for next month to have the MCMG, the BI, Team 3D, and BMI face off in a four way for the titles, with the MCMG finally taking home the gold.

Feast or Fired
- Competitors involved: Samoa Joe, Beer Money, Kevin Nash, TNA Global Champion Eric Young, Sheik Abdul Bashir, Kiyoshi, Homicide, Jay Lethal, Consequences Creed and Cody Deaner.
Winner: Oh goodness. Talk about choices. I'm going for Deaner to get fired, BMI to get a tag title shot, Homicide to get an X divsiion title shot (again), and Joe to get a world title shot. WOuldn't it rock if Jarrett won the title from Styles, Hogan beat Jarrett, and minutesl ater Joe comes in, chokes out Hogan, and takes the gold?

Eight Man Tag Team Elimination
- Team 3D, Rhino & Jesse Neal vs. Matt Morgan, Hernandez, "The Pope" D'Angelo Dinero & Suicide.
Winners: Morgan, Hermandez, and company. Aren't these guys suppose to be the new, rising stars? Why are they in this feud? Why are they light years away from the world title? Why is Dixie Carter, who swore to push new talent, obviously positioning Jarrett and perhaps Hogan for title reigns over these guys? Ugh.

TNA Knockouts Championship
- ODB (c) vs. Tara.
Winner: ODB's title reign has gone on long enough. Tara gets the gold again.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Would love to see Bret come back. I can just see the arena when his music plays. People are going to have strokes and heart attacks.

How ya doing, buddy?

We lost another one all. 'Dr. Death' Steve Williams passed away after a lengthy bout of Cancer. He was only 49 and just missed seeing the next decade.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Pardon my lack of intelligence, but what brand and timeframe did he compete for/in?

Again, I don't really remember him all that well.


On a side note: Tommy Dreamer is apparently done now. From what I gathered on WWE.com earlier today (because I missed ECW last night), Dreamer put his career on the line against Zack Ryder and lost. Gave another pretty emotional speech and left his trademark ECW shirt in the ring.


So... we ready to "officially" declare ECW "truly" dead now?

How ya doing, buddy?

Steve Williams was around during the 80's and 90's. The majority of his success came in Japan although he was undefeated in the States for about a year and did win some times in the NWA if I read / recall correctly. He was around the WWE during it's attitude era, aligned with Jim Ross, and then with Vince Russo and Ed Ferra (sp?) when they did the lame and disrespected gimmick, Oklahoma.

As for ECW, yeah, Dreamer was the last link and he is gone. It was fairly well known prior to Tuesday that he was already leaving. There is the rumor that he is going to TNA, which seems odd given he a fairly decent send-off after his last match in ECW. As for ECW itself, the ECW we knew of and many people held in high regard has been gone for some time. We got a glimpse of it during One Night Stand in 2005 but even that required an angle in which pure WWE talent was mixed in through the "anti-ECW" angle. 2006 was decent, and had to some degree an ECW feel to it, but not nearly on the level of 2005. By December to Dismember of the same year, the WWE's version of ECW was in full effect. Not just because it also resulted in Paul Heyman leaving but just in how it was booked and the way the WWE was going.

Don't get me wrong, the WWE could only do so much by that point as many of the past ECW stars were gone for various reasons. The WWE couldn't fight time itself and hence had to move on. In fact, part of ECW's aura was how they kept going with new talent, or old talent used in new, original ways, no matter who was coming and going. however, just the aura, the die-hand, support ECW no matter what, type fan and fan mentality was long gone by that point. In addition, and again not really the WWE's fault as the day and age has changed, the new ECW didn't have the hard edge that it did before. This is mainly because the WWE wasn't creating controversial, "real life" (or as close as one can get) angles that ECW did nor was (or is) pushing the envelope that ECW did years ago (and the WWE followed during it's attitude era).

So yes, the ECW that many people like to think about fondly is gone.

FELIPE NO

No one is talking about the Hitman Hart who's on tonight?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Hart is so great, we don't need to talk about him. We just know

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I think people are overall looking at the potential return of the Monday Night Wars.

Obviously, Bret Hart is going to be huge, huge news. On the other side though there are huge rumors that Jeff Hardy is returning and will compete in the X-Division steel asylum match. Now wouldn't THAT be a blow to the WWE - having one of their top performers whom they are still somewhat pushing show up on TNA. Interestingly though, this was one of the big things i felt TNA needed to do to draw attention. If they could do this...and somehow screw the WWE over by having Bret Hart show up in TNA and NOT on wwe, then that would really make a statement.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Jeff Hardy isn't going to be performing. Hes visiting the stage with his g/f and shannon moore. If anyone was to be in that of those two, it would be Moore over Hardy so that way Moore can be used wrong then fucked over, AGAIN.

Now Brian Kendrick will probably be in the XDivision crap match though

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Slash

Jeff Hardy isn't going to be performing. Hes visiting the stage with his g/f and shannon moore. If anyone was to be in that of those two, it would be Moore over Hardy so that way Moore can be used wrong then fucked over, AGAIN.

Now Brian Kendrick will probably be in the XDivision crap match though

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According to a report on ProWrestling.net, Jeff Hardy has arrived at the Impact Zone in Orlando and will be making his official TNA return during tonight's Steel Asylum match on the three-hour special edition of Impact on Spike TV.

also, James Roday and Dule Hill (Shawn and Gus from Psych) hosting the Jan 25th episode of Raw since Cena's going to be on the season premiere of Psych.

Creative is also trying to get The Rock to return to face Cena at WM26. Hopefully with Cena going in as heel

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I still don't believe it. Because if Hardy does it, I'm 95% sure he will never be back in WWE. And also the only news I believe I get from pwinsider.com because 99% of what I've seen there has been 100% legit

And the Rock won't return. After Cenas comments towards him, and the rock wanting to focus on his amazing acting career.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Slash

I still don't believe it. Because if Hardy does it, I'm 95% sure he will never be back in WWE. And also the only news I believe I get from pwinsider.com because 99% of what I've seen there has been 100% legit

And the Rock won't return. After Cenas comments towards him, and the rock wanting to focus on his amazing acting career.

Which comments were those? I missed it for sure.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Slash

Jeff Hardy isn't going to be performing.

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From what I just witnessed, and this is just from my personal opinion, we could very well see Hardy signing with the company, especially now that he's on Homicide's bad side.

I could be wrong, though.

FELIPE NO

Holy crap.

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RAW and TNA actually have taken me back to a time where I was channel swapping between the two to see whats going on. While the majority of the people on right now are way beyond the age of performing...it still is entertainment. Its ashame this won't last beyond tonight but it is nice to capture that feeling again.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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Flair, nWo, Hardy... Val Venus. Vince needs to pull something out of his hat.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by dagget

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Flair, nWo, Hardy... Val Venus. Vince needs to pull something out of his hat.

Nah not really.

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Vince isn't the one who needs to prove himself, TNA is pretty far behind. Hardy and Val Venis aren't exactly huge names either.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Heh always expected Vince to pull out something shady but that's his character I guess. The nice part was seeing Shawn and Bret making peace which was great.

Surprising not to see anything about Bret Hart and the Hart Dynasty. Also a shame that we didn't get to see Bret wrestle but he's past that age I guess.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

TNA's best chant EVER.

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WHO NEEDS BRET?! WHO NEEDS BRET?! WHO NEEDS BRET?!

More marking out than I've ever done in my life, TNA. Very well played.

10/10 will watch again.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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Ok. Tonight was the first time since 2001 there was an option to switch between two promotions. However, it felt like it was 1997-1998 again. Back then, I stayed on WWE (would always watch the replay of Nitro at midnight) once it hit 9pm. No matter how good the first hour of Nitro was. It was the exact reverse today. Sure, I was looking forward to Bret Hart's return. I was under the impression that that was it. Vince scored Bret and TNA would be doomed. Even Bret couldn't save the WWE programming from being the same boring stuff. I found myself rather watching the TNA matches, because it was actual wrestling. Back the way it used to be. Awesome high flying moves, great ground work. It felt to me it was going back to fantastic stunt work that it used to be, telling the stories with ring work instead of boring promos.

The only match I would abolish though was that first match. Boring. Also, Spike's censors need to just cut the shit and let those chants be heard. Don't even TRY to hide bullshit. It's cable after all. Live a little.

Angle vs Styles was a superb match. I haven't been kept on edge like that since the Triple H v HBK v Benoit at WM 20. Also the tease of a possible reformation of the nWo (with Hogan making his entrance with the original nWo theme without the "new world order" and "4 lyfe" words in the theme) and Hall, Nash and Waltman beating down Foley in Bischoff's office.

Keep this up every week, and TNA has a huge chance at becoming a good change of pace. I know I'll be watching Thursdays from now on.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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TNA is still pretty bad. Years ago when it was WCW/WWE feuding, WCW was tolerable during its matches but TNA is just god awful. WWE isn't much better but it brings the entertainment factor. TNA will always appeal to those who enjoy the wrestling classic stuff and those that hate the guys in the lead, but it really needs to pick it up if they hope to compete. I don't think TNA will have a recurring Monday show, will they? If not, than they will get hype for this and then it will dwindle back to mediocrity all over again.

I also like how they didn't really score anyone that is worth a damn. They got a mildly entertaining faux porn star wrestler, alot of guys who are washed up and way too old and Jeff Hardy who has pretty much been in every rehab clinic in the country. AJ Styles is still the only reason worth watching the show...which is fine but its been that way for 5 years now.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Oh, but they did.

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Whether or not they stay, a lot of those names give TNA additional word of mouth exposure with them simply being there. How many of these "old washed up guys" ended up in the ring on Monday? I'll admit the cage match was a complete failure and clusterfuck, but every other match was very presentable, especially the main event.

Also, how the hell can you hate on Val Venis? That man was a WWF/E company man for the longest time and his greatest reward was a couple of shitty IC title runs before basically holding his career hostage doing trivial shit then releasing him. I'd like to see him get better and get somewhere eventually before the end of his career.

How ya doing, buddy?

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Not really hating on him, but I don't see him being a huge star as he couldn't even do that in WWE. I actually liked him for a while, he was over in the beginning due to his gimmick and how racey it was but he could never really take off as a performer. Once the Attitude era settled in more he seemed lost in the shuffle. Of the countless times he came back, he ended up just being someone to get beat down to give other guys a push.

I hope at the very least TNA does well enough to light a fire under WWE's ass. As I said, its ashame there is not a recurring Monday Night show to go head to head with RAW. Wrestling is at its best when there is competition like that...but most networks want to be douchebags now and not have that kind of competition.

It could end up being similiar to WCW all over again, I don't mean the bad part but the good part. WCW took in alot of WWE rejects and old timers and used them to push their product. I can see TNA doing that but they need something else to be a better hook than guys like Hogan, Scott Hall or Kevin Nash. WCW used the nWO to get people to watch their show and then fans recognized certain talent as being entertaining. For the most part, most wrestling fans do not want just an amazing wrestler...they want that but they also need an entertainment factor in it as well. Look back at some of the Atlanta-bred hot tickets that weren't former WWE. Guys like Disco Inferno and Ernest Miller might not of been the best performers but they had either good entertainment or comedy attached to them. TNA needs to get that going but dont push it too far. WWE is staggering right now as every week their product comes off as weak but is still prefered by most wrestling fans. If something even slightly better was around, it could be profitable for that company.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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TNA's show felt like I could've stopped watching WCW in 2001 only to return now and be the same fan I was 9 years ago.
Washed up guys? I didn't see Luger, Bagwell, Sid, Goldberg, DDP or Bret Hart.
Funny segments (Nasty Boys & Val Venis), genuine surprises (Hardy), great matches (the knockouts tag team match was incredible), legendary guests (Ric Flair) and historical moments (Hogan, Bischoff, Hall, Nash in one ring again).

Also, no stupid Hulkamania, no yellow-red colors. I think Hogan's doing pretty well so far.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Knighthawk

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Not really hating on him, but I don't see him being a huge star as he couldn't even do that in WWE. I actually liked him for a while, he was over in the beginning due to his gimmick and how racey it was but he could never really take off as a performer. Once the Attitude era settled in more he seemed lost in the shuffle. Of the countless times he came back, he ended up just being someone to get beat down to give other guys a push.

I hope at the very least TNA does well enough to light a fire under WWE's ass. As I said, its ashame there is not a recurring Monday Night show to go head to head with RAW. Wrestling is at its best when there is competition like that...but most networks want to be douchebags now and not have that kind of competition.

It could end up being similiar to WCW all over again, I don't mean the bad part but the good part. WCW took in alot of WWE rejects and old timers and used them to push their product. I can see TNA doing that but they need something else to be a better hook than guys like Hogan, Scott Hall or Kevin Nash. WCW used the nWO to get people to watch their show and then fans recognized certain talent as being entertaining. For the most part, most wrestling fans do not want just an amazing wrestler...they want that but they also need an entertainment factor in it as well. Look back at some of the Atlanta-bred hot tickets that weren't former WWE. Guys like Disco Inferno and Ernest Miller might not of been the best performers but they had either good entertainment or comedy attached to them. TNA needs to get that going but dont push it too far. WWE is staggering right now as every week their product comes off as weak but is still prefered by most wrestling fans. If something even slightly better was around, it could be profitable for that company.

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Val had an awesome run for a little while as the "Chief of Security" Sean Morley, which had nothing to do with his faux porn star gimmick and was quite memorable. With his current look, he's a mild entertainer at best. But he CAN be used correctly, as the Sean Morley character proved. TNA can move him in that direction again, especially if Hall and Waltman disappear. Remember who Sean Morley was the head of security for again? Eric Bischoff.

Spike TV is ready to go, but people need to do their parts to raise Impact's overall ratings to make it to that point. Last night was no different. Bret Hart coming back to TV as a simple guest host/manager really does no overall good for the business aside from lining McMahon's pockets a little more and netting the diehard Attitude Era fans again. Just about anyone that cares about the business should have watched TNA and set WWE to DVR last night. This is exactly what I did, and while I'm not entirely sure how the Nielsen ratings work I hope many others shared my mindset and the ratings reflect that.

I'd like to see TNA become the WCW that never had the dirty politics. I'd love it in fact. We still have to remember however, that what killed WCW was the shitty AOL/Time Warner merger (which ended recently and was deemed a failure itself) and not really the politics. It could have been bought and turned around. TNA now is what WCW was back in 1996, and what happens henceforth is all up to Dixie Carter.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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It seems like Bret Hart's storyline ain't done yet. I suspect he will feud with Vince up to wrestlemania.

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