Iranian Protests [Update]: Massacres in Tehran - Allah Akbar

TV doesnt show anything about the protests, it's all cooking shows and football. It's surprising how calm it is the day after. Im curious about tonight, nothing has been officially decided if there is going to be another protest or not. people might go out and do it silently. also they are looking people up from twitter and facebook so got to clean that out.
interesting times.

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Its sick. Just take a look at this video.

Amatuer Video-- Wouldn't say graphic but disturbing. Listen to the audio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv60QkqpAIE

CNN gets someone to explain it---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAWnQp-1IIg

Apparently they're breaking into peoples homes and abducting people. God thats fucking insane

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Mousavi has been sending messages inquiring about ideas for a general strike.

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Religious leaders are considering an alternative to the supreme leader structure after at least 13 people were killed in the latest unrest to shake Tehran and family members of Ayatollah Rafsanjani were arrested amid calls by former President Mohammad Khatami for the release of all protesters.


Iran's religious clerks in Qom and members of the Assembly of Experts, headed by former President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, are mulling the formation of an alternative collective leadership to replace that of the supreme leader, sources in Qom told Al Arabiya on condition of anonymity.

The influential Rafsanjani, 57, heads two very powerful groups. The most important one is the Assembly of Experts, made up of senior clerics who can elect and dismiss the supreme leader. The second is the Expediency Council, a body that arbitrates disputes between parliament and the unelected Guardian Council, which can block legislation.

Members of the assembly are reportedly considering forming a collective ruling body and scrapping the model of Ayatollah Khomeini as a way out of the civil crisis that has engulfed Tehran in a series of protests,

The discussions have taken place in a series of secret meetings convened in the holy city of Qom and included Jawad al-Shahristani, the supreme representative of Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, who is the foremost Shiite leader in Iraq.

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Demonstrators rush Basij in the street - watch it to the end

I was speaking idiomatically.

good work brady, any specifc reason you are so into this thing?

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Obviously can't speak for Brady, but personally this represents a big shakeup in the political climate of the region and has the possibility to change our (the West's) interactions with them for decades. Also, had a Persian roomate for years, who piqued my interest in the history and possibilities for change. Thanks for keeping this updated Brady.

FELIPE NO

For me, the biggest political anger I've ever experienced directly was the 2004 election. Thousands of bloggers crying out in unison, and silenced.

I guess I'm fascinated because this is actually important.

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YouTube - CNN: Video Of "Neda" Before She Was Killed In Iranian Protest <- with commentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi21hNoEkaE <- original video

CNN's latest coverage about the brave young women "Neda" who died in the name of freedom!

Graphic. Very graphic. Might want to finish your dinner b4 watching this!

Apparently, they said it was some rooftop gunmen who shot her in the chest. SNIPER?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFW5sQ5L0Bk <- obama's statement

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Originally Posted by Press TV > Guardian Council: Over 100% voted in 50 cities

Iran's Guardian Council has suggested that the number of votes collected in 50 cities surpass the number of people eligible to cast ballot in those areas.

The council's Spokesman Abbas-Ali Kadkhodaei, who was speaking on the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) Channel 2 on Sunday, made the remarks in response to complaints filed by Mohsen Rezaei -- a defeated candidate in the June 12 Presidential election.

"Statistics provided by the candidates, who claim more than 100% of those eligible have cast their ballot in 80-170 cities are not accurate -- the incident has happened in only 50 cities," Kadkhodaei said.

The spokesman, however, said that although the vote tally affected by such an irregularity could be over 3 million and the council could, at the request of the candidates, re-count the affected ballot boxes, "it has yet to be determined whether the possible change in the tally is decisive in the election results," reported Khabaronline.

just 50 cities :phew:

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Originally Posted by Zip

good work brady, any specifc reason you are so into this thing?

I think it's important for people to see that change can be affected through collective action. Not only that it can be affected, but how it is affected, and what you have to be willing to give up to affect it.

Plus I've always had a soft spot for Persia/Iran.

Edit: I will be updating this post so check back.

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Hey Americans fuck you, Neda is not your hero. Stop trying to make yourself feel important and just fucking watch.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The Iranian Foreign Ministry's press conference on the issue.

YouTube - Iran's Foreign Ministry Press Conference - 06/22/09

They're blaming bomb attacks as attempts to destabilize the country. Yet there are rumors the bombs are planted by the government agencies themselves.

Well, I think change could possibly come, but it would need some form of foreign intervention. Its too difficult to force change, with so much oppression and control over the people by the government.

I'm.. not too optimistic.

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Originally Posted by izanagi

Well, I think change could possibly come, but it would need some form of foreign intervention.

This should never happen, fyi.

There's not much other news coming out of Iran. Iranians have stopped using networking devices and services to coordinate and have gone back to the 79 strategy of distributing flyers. Less news is going to come through Twitter as a result, since the rate of information exchange is slowing. The streets have also been fairly quiet, so this is either the start of something else altogether, or a lull in protests.

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I'd also like to say that I have the utmost faith in the Iranian people's ability to take back their own country. The State is never all-powerful, there is no boot stomping on a human face forever, and the idea that change can only come through foreign interventionism is what fueled the last eight years of our neoconservative nightmare.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Streets are quiet. 2 people died yesterday and 450 got arrested, it's stilll going on

I also found this, a mother got shot through the belly while pregnant and the bullet penetrated the child

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Basiji arresting two people in their home

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people tearing down fences to block the Basijis bikes, im in that crowd somewhere

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News are leaking out that people that voted for Ahmedinejad was allowed to vote 3 times, with passport, id and drivers license. Villeges that only have 3000 people got 5000 votes... theirexcuse is that people traveled and voted there.

the street that neda got killed in, amirabad has changed to Neda on the streets.
Also i couldnt sleep and i was thinking what to compare this situation to, and this being gamingforced and all, first time i played halflife2, the first level, i got this weird creeping feeling that you are locked in and watched lol. weird compareing it to a game but thats the feeling i got when i saw the basijis in the alleys and stuff..

also tonight will be another bloody night, people are planning on going out but this time not only in one place but all over town.

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tons of people out will be a bloodbath!

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Originally Posted by Zip

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That picture is actually from Lebanon. Not that there aren't plenty of damning photos already.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npdISZUtdmU - One student shot in the groin, while another dies from a head wound. This is not worksafe.

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Word coming through of a protest forming tonight.

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Here is an English transcription of a state-run Iranian TV interview from today with a young man purported to be a detained protester. It ran this morning on Vision of the Islamic Republic of Iran Network 1, Tehran.

[Presenter] The few rioters who disturbed Tehran's order in the past few days, have made significant statements regarding their objectives.
[Female with pixellated face] There was a military hand grenade [as received] in my hand bag and in my son's bag. It was all because my son wanted to have power and show that he could take over power [and use it] against his own country and his fellow countrymen. This was all because of an atmosphere created by the BBC in Iran. I was influenced by this channel.

[Reporter asks a young man] When did you come to Tehran?
[Young man]: About seven or eight days ago.
[Reporter]: When were you arrested?
[Young man] Three days ago.
[Reporter] Where?
[Young man] Under Hafez flyover.
[Reporter] Did you have any criminal record at all?
[Young man] No, not at all.
[Reporter] What about drugs?
[Young man] Yes. I had half a gram of crystal with me once. I came to Tehran to repair my mobile phone but when I saw that there was disorder, I started robbing people. I used the opportunity provided by the crowds and rioters and started robbing people.
[Young man] How did you do it?
[Young man] I did it with my brother. I would keep people busy and my brother would rob them.
[Reporter to young man 2] How old are you?
[Young man 2] I'm 15 years old.
[Reporter] So you didn't vote?
[Young man 2] No.
[Reporter] How long have you been here?
[Young man 2] Three days.
[Reporter] Where were you exactly arrested?
[Young man] Ostad Mo'in Avenue.
[Young woman] I was influenced by VOA Persian and the BBC. They were reporting that the [police] forces were the ones who were beating up people. I wanted to know what was happening and whether or not this was true. But when I went there, I realized that most of us protesters were attacking government property, the [police] forces and other people. They broke house windows and intercoms. Those who were protesting were somehow rioting. We set public property on fire, threw stones at people's cars, there were no [police] forces near us to be hit by our stones. We hurled stones at other people's cars, doors, windows, intercoms. We set motorcycles on fire. When I was running from the police yesterday my dad didn't want to open the door and let me in. I opened the door with force and sought refuge at home, but I was finally arrested.
[Reporter to another man] Did you take part in the election?
[Man 3] No.
[Reporter] So you didn't vote at all?
[Man 3] No.
[Reporter] Those who protested had taken part in the election and had their own objections. What did you want in the protests when you didn't even vote?
[Man 3] I was not pursuing anything particular. I think I was influenced by some networks like the BBC and the VOA to do this unethical action.
[Reporter to another young man] Did you vote?
[Man 4] No, I was under-age by a 10 or 20 days. There were so many things happening. I set buses, cars and even trees on fire. The Law Enforcement Force was warning us not to hurl stones towards cars, but I still threw stones. I did all sorts of things. I was provoked. I really didn't want to do these things.
[Reporter] How were you provoked?
[Man 4] They [fellow protesters] were provoking me with really bad language or even swear words. They said they [police] were Israelis.
[Reporter] Who agitated you? Were they specific people?
[Man 4] They mostly wore masks and I think they are the real people behind this whole thing.

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Originally Posted by Khatami

In the name of God

We will not waste our energy, but act efficiently. We have conveyed our words to the coup-makers to the world in the streets. Now we need to change our strategy.

From this Tuesday, at 9 every morning we will all go to the bazaar in our towns all over the country. If they prevent us, the bazaar will close. If they do not, there will be such congestion that the business will get interrupted and the bazaar will close. If they disconnect the telephone lines, again all activities will get interrupted and the bazaar will close. As much as possible, we will shut down the whole town and go to the bazaar to shut it down.

Take everyone with you. Bring the children, too –without any slogans-without green signs-without sit-ins; pretending to go shopping but not buying anything. We will only think of shutting down the bazaar, but do not leave any traces, not even a victory sign by our hands. NOT AT ALL.

We will only think of victory. Bring the children, all the towns of Iran, without slogans, without slogans, without slogans, quietly, quietly, quietly, without greens, without sit-ins, without fighting. If anyone starts quarrels or shouts, we will not join because we pretend to be going shopping. There is no need to fear, and everyone will come. No fights, no bloodshed, no slogans, no sit-ins. If they prevent us, we simply return because we mean to shut down the bazaar, not to assemble. If they shoot tear gas, the bazaar will close. We will act smartly and will not engage in any sort of fights although if any fighting happens the bazaar will close due to insecurity. But we will not engage in any fights, and calmly and solely think of victory. With the congestion the bazaar will shut down, or no one will be there. Under any circumstances we will win. Dear Mr. Mousavi: We do not need your martyrdom and self-sacrifice; we need your leadership until we reach our goals. Until 9am Tuesday, the 3rd day of the martyrdom of June 20th martyrs, we will have enough time to inform everyone.

Inform friends by any means: through websites, foreign media…. From Tuesday towards bazaar.

Send this message to friends and the addresses below so that it gets widespread all over our dear Iran. This strategy is effective and there is no need to fear, and will bring millions of Iranians into the scene without any bloodshed. Rest assured this strategy is so effective that the enemy will soon start denying and making rumors, and will start struggling. Do not believe them because this program will continue. Do not listen to rumors and inform everyone by whatever means possible.

Wishing for success.

Bazaar merchants joining the protesters in 79 was instrumental in the last revolution, and this plan would be for all purposes a general strike that isn't a strike, and gives the bazaaris pre-text to close up shop.

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The impression I'm getting from reading Western analyses of the situation say that Ahmadinejad may have truly won the election, although not by the majority officially reported by the government. Is it true that the protests are more or less an urban phenomenon, and the rural people still largely support the raving lunatic, Zip?

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Apparently some site by the Iranian government with pictures of protesters, asking people to turn them in. Not sure how legitimate it is, but scary nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by Zergrinch

The impression I'm getting from reading Western analyses of the situation say that Ahmadinejad may have truly won the election, although not by the majority officially reported by the government. Is it true that the protests are more or less an urban phenomenon, and the rural people still largely support the raving lunatic, Zip?

The actions of tribal and village leaders declaring that they shouldn't support the government suggests that people harping on the urban/rural divide have jumped to conclusions.

This is more like the "silent majority" that got Nixon elected even after the Kent State massacre. That is assuming that Ahmadinejad actually won the election, which I doubt.

Zip may not be able to post for a while either. There are reports of massacres in several squares in Tehran where Basij are just going whole hog and beating people to death. The government is also beginning to close in on internet users in general and several Iranian tweeters are feeling the heat.

Originally Posted by @persiankiwi

#we must go - dont know when we can get internet - they take 1 of us, they will torture and get names - now we must move fast

#thank you ppls 4 supporting Sea of Green - pls remember always our martyrs - Allah Akbar - Allah Akbar - Allah Akba

#Allah - you are the creator of all and all must return to you - Allah Akbar

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This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

yeah im gonna go silent from now on. Ive seen som nasty things today and i dont want to take the chance of them sniffing around my cousins house.
I will say this tho, no people have not given up, they are waiting and trying to collect themselves. they did say that Ahmadnejad won the second recount, but recounting 10 boxes (which they probably didnt) doesnt prove anything.
We carry our flag on our back and bleed for our country homie.

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Stay safe and check in now and then to tell us you're still kickin' it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

When are you supposed to go home, zip?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

From the sounds of it, checking in might just compromise him.

Do what you gotta do, dude. Just watch the fuck out.

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Stay safe, zip.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Skills

From the sounds of it, checking in might just compromise him.

Do what you gotta do, dude. Just watch the fuck out.

If just saying 'hey guys still here' will compromise him, then he can just think of my underwear drawer. Then I will know, and I'll know he's still safe.

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I know he won't read this but Zip, bro. Stay safe, watch your back and get out of there on the first opportunity.

There's nowhere I can't reach.