[Multiplatform] Street Fighter 4 - For some reason they're still putting in characters other than Ken

LOL! That was painful to watch, but I guess that's what you get from a local GS tourney. I like that they're holding an event like this though. It only serves to help SFIV and the fighting game community and the long run.

How ya doing, buddy?

No kidding. Congrats to the winner, but good lord was that scrubalicious. Here's an entertaining match to watch. Been practicing Sim. He's insanely fun in this game.

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wow, I had such a hard time with dahlsim when I tried to beat on medium, except with seth which was surprisingly easier than the rest using dahlsim.
Loving that teleporting ultra combo though, going to have to practice that =p.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Encephalon

Is anyone doing the GameStop Street Fighter IV Tournament? My sister signed me and her husband up so we're gonna be there at 11 this morning.

Under the circumstances in which I am ridiculously hungover and have to get rid of some broad who spent the night at my house, this might be a little hard to do but I'll try.

Even though I was a day late and a dollar short on seeing this thread, I went to the tourney yesterday. So many Shoryuken's, Tiger's and Hadouken's being thrown around (got eliminated in the 1st round matches ;_;. But it was still a pretty good thing. In any case I got vid's of the tourney where I was at, hopefully they came out good.

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Originally Posted by Manny Biggz

Been practicing Sim. He's insanely fun in this game.

Wow the last time I saw someone use dhalsim like that was SF2, I guess it explains why people wanted air blocking and parrying removed in a way, because suddenly smart turtling is way more effective again =P

I don't have SF4 yet personally (mainly because I only has wii ) so I'm on the fence right now of wether to get the PC version or finally get an xbox.

FELIPE NO

ahahahahaah, we had a bunch of people sign up for the tourney and only one guy showed up. Free yellow head band for me.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Manny Biggz

No kidding. Congrats to the winner, but good lord was that scrubalicious. Here's an entertaining match to watch. Been practicing Sim. He's insanely fun in this game.

The first round wasn't all that exciting, but I forgot that a good Dhalsim will be poking away at long range most of the time and waiting for the opponent to slip up. Also the teleport cross-ups are great for really messing up the enemy, although I thought there would be more Yoga Mummy/Yoga Spear usage for some reason. Too bad you can only teleport once in the air, it'd be fun if you could do it over and over again.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

This game has definitely lived up to and surpassed the hype for me. It's been a while since I've had a competitive fire for any fighting game (like a decade with SFA3). Right now I'm still a bit rusty and it's been ages since I've used a stick, so I'm still getting back up to speed. I have yet to work in FDAC'ing into my game so I'm sticking with some basic characters until I feel at home with the game's systems and my stickwork.

Why doesn't everyone post up a brief SFIV profile? I'll start it off.

Mains: Chun-Li, Zangief, and Bison.
Win Rate: 76% (128-40)
Longest Streak: 21
BP: 1822

BTW my GT is Scheswalla

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Summonmaster

The first round wasn't all that exciting, but I forgot that a good Dhalsim will be poking away at long range most of the time and waiting for the opponent to slip up. Also the teleport cross-ups are great for really messing up the enemy, although I thought there would be more Yoga Mummy/Yoga Spear usage for some reason. Too bad you can only teleport once in the air, it'd be fun if you could do it over and over again.

The drills are terrible in this game and will only get you killed.

While I don't have my win/loss information memorized, my main is Dictator (Bison). I'm learning Dhalsim and sometimes I'll throw Dan in there too.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I really need to invest in a gamestick because the 360 controller is not working out for me with this game. The D-pad is horrible, but the analog isn't much better. It's so annoying when you try to do an ultra combo and instead you get an ex special, or better yet, nothing at all. That's the sort of thing that can cost you a match online.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

had a few online matches with omagnus and no loss of speed from what I saw which was awesome.
I don't really know my loss/win because my brother came to visit and he took it upon himself to use my username and play online using mostly ken because he thinks "I'm just too good with him" and spams the crap out of flaming shoryuken.
I mostly use gief, chun-li and gouken ainse i;m trying to practice with him

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Shenlon

had a few online matches with omagnus and no loss of speed from what I saw which was awesome.

Yeah, I've been impressed with the online connection and stability on both the 360 and PS3. The only person I've had some issues with is Skills, since our connections seem to hate each other. That said, it still wasn't too bad at all, and I need to try again with him since I found out my flatmate was downloading some hefty files last time we played which wouldn't have helped matters.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Lukage

ahahahahaah, we had a bunch of people sign up for the tourney and only one guy showed up. Free yellow head band for me.

Ours had a full bracket and I got my ass handed to me by my brother-in-law's little brother who then got decimated by his brother in the final round. We're going to Bakersfield next week to see him get owned in Round 2.

FELIPE NO

So is it just me, or despite there being a healthy range of characters to pick from, most people online are either Ken or Ryu (with the occasional Akuma for good measure). I know they're fairly stock characters and all, but come on.

Annoyingly I got to a 9 ranked win streak today and then lost it on the 10th. That was irritating.

On a more positive note, last night I had a bunch of mates over for some new-old school Street Fighter action, with my Xbox in the lounge and two arcade sticks. That was a lot of fun, I have to say.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime

So is it just me, or despite there being a healthy range of characters to pick from, most people online are either Ken or Ryu (with the occasional Akuma for good measure). I know they're fairly stock characters and all, but come on.

Annoyingly I got to a 9 ranked win streak today and then lost it on the 10th. That was irritating.

On a more positive note, last night I had a bunch of mates over for some new-old school Street Fighter action, with my Xbox in the lounge and two arcade sticks. That was a lot of fun, I have to say.

I know I can't really talk too much trash about that considering I play Ken and Dan myself, but what bothers me more about those players rather than their playing Ken/Ryu is that they SUCK at it so badly. These are the players who telegraph their moves so even a relative novice like myself can see them coming a mile away. Do not fucking stand there jabbing the air as Akuma when your ultra meter is full. I will jump over your Ultra, as I have all but 1 time it's been used on me in ranked. If you continue to throw strong fireballs at me I will continue to jump them. It is not as hard as you think it is. The sheer ratio of bad Shoto players to bad ANYTHING ELSE players is infuriating.

It's why I'm starting to consider learning Rufus, to be honest. I want to use a character that doesn't piss people off, and Rufus is an entertaining character to use. So is Dan, simply for the occasional player that will deliberately switch to Sagat when he sees me choosing Dan, only to lose anyway.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I have nothing against people using Dan, he's a great character (I've picked him a few times too). I'm also liking Sakura and trying to get better with her, but it's just that it's so boring always fighting Ryu and Ken players. I don't think I've once seen a Rose or a Gen, or half the cast in fact. Actually today was the first time I came across another Cammy player, which is 1 out of something like 150.

Also, I agree, watching lousy Akuma players is the funniest thing ever. I managed to perfect one earlier today by kicking him in the face as he finally pulled off his ultra. So satisfying.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Why was the special edition not in a metal tin? I hate the cardboard boxes because they get messed up so easily.

Anyway, I suck at this game. Eventually when I get some free time, maybe I'll get a little better. Hopefully.

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If anyone wants to hit me up after Heroes tonight I'll be on around 10:00 Pacific Time.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime

So is it just me, or despite there being a healthy range of characters to pick from, most people online are either Ken or Ryu (with the occasional Akuma for good measure). I know they're fairly stock characters and all, but come on.

I think it's because most online players are still trying to get into the whole fighting system. That, or Ryu and Ken are safe bets for laggy games given their easy movesets (which don't require frame-by-frame perfection).

Apart from Ryu, I'm trying to master Fei-Long since there seems to be an apparent lack of love for the character. Either that, or Abel/El Fuerte. Those new characters need to have a reason for being included!

As for Gen, my brother took about 5 people by surprise by kicking their ass with him (all of them Kens, Akumas and Ryus). Gen's hard to grasp, but if you can make use of his combos he's quite effective. My brother's 6th match involved some lag, thus losing our chance of getting that trophy/achievement. :/

FFS that J-pop/rock menu theme is catchy. MP3ed since the first day, and I'm still not sick it it

I was speaking idiomatically.

Does skill match work for any of you? Everytime I try to search for someone equal or better the search system shits itself.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Hotobu

Does skill match work for any of you? Everytime I try to search for someone equal or better the search system shits itself.

It seems to work for me each time. Sometimes I get that annoying 'Unable to Play' message and the whole search starts over, which is irksome, but nothing beyond that.

In sales news, seems Capcom has shipped 2 million copies of the game worldwide already. Not bad going really. And apparently here in the UK, the PS3 version just about outsold the 360 version.

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One of the reasons I still want to learn Rufus, or someone other than the normal characters, is because it appears a lot of people have no clue how to deal with anything out of the normal. Gen I'm sure is going to CRUSH for a while as long as you bother to learn him. I haven't even fought OR unlocked him yet so I have no idea what to expect fighting him. I'd probably lose.

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Originally Posted by Hotobu

Does skill match work for any of you? Everytime I try to search for someone equal or better the search system shits itself.

I have more problems just with quick match. It just keeps telling me I can't connect. I actually think sometimes the server isn't removing finished games from the list fast enough. Twice now I've realized that I'm joining a match with the person I finished a match with about 10 seconds previously, and last I checked it's not quite possible to start a match that fast.

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Ok, finally, here's a definitive way to unlock Akuma and Gokuen. The Capcom-Unity blog decided to post it up since there's obviously a crapload of confusion with it. I've unlocked both, but I thought it would be nice to update everyone :

Quote:

To unlock Akuma as a playable character:

1. Unlock Cammy, Fei Long, Dan, Sakura, Rose, and Gen.

2. Pick a character you have already used to beat Arcade Mode.

3. Win all your matches without continuing and without losing any rounds before fighting with Seth.

4. You need to get at least one "perfect" win in a round, and more than one depending on how many rounds per match you are playing.


- 1 round match: 1 perfect round or more

- 3 round match: 2 perfect rounds or more

- 5 round match: 3 perfect rounds or more

- 7 round match: 4 perfect rounds or more

(including the last battle against Seth)

5. If you meet these conditions, Akuma will appear. Defeat him to unlock Akuma as a selectable character.

To unlock Gouken as a playable character:

1. Complete Arcade Mode playing as Akuma and watch (not necessary to watch everything) an ending.

2. Then, unlock Gouken as an opponent, and defeat him.

Necessary conditions to unlock Gouken as an opponent:

- Play with any characters with which you watched the ending once (so play using a character you have already beaten the game with)

- Do not continue at all.

- Do not lose at all. Not even one round (easier if you only play 1-round matches)

- Achieve certain number (or more) of "Perfect" rounds. The number of Perfect Win you need to achieve are:

If you play on

- 1 round match: 1 time or more

- 3 round match: 2 times or more

- 5 round match: 3 times or more

- 7 round match: 4 times or more

- Achieve a certain number (or more) of Super Combo -OR- Ultra Combo Finishes. Super and Ultra finishes both count toward this number. The number of super/ultra finishes you need to achieve are:

If you play on

- 1 round match: 3 times or more

- 3 round match: 5 times or more

- 5 round match: 7 times or more

- 7 round match: 9 times or more


- Achieve certain number (or more) of First Attack (this means you must score the first strike in a match--the screen gives you the "First Attack" message, and you can mostly do this without even noticing):

The number of First Attack you need to achieve are:

If you play on

- 1 round match: 5 times or more

- 3 round match: 10 times or more

- 5 round match: 15 times or more

- 7 round match: 20 times or more


- Then Gouken will appear. Kick his butt to unlock him!

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Once you've unlocked Akuma and Gouken do they ever appear in a normal arcade mode match or if you want to fight them again do you have to do all that stuff in order to get to them? If it's the latter then that's pretty lame. It also would have made more sense if Akuma was Gouken's rival instead of Ryu.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Milton Converse

One of the reasons I still want to learn Rufus, or someone other than the normal characters, is because it appears a lot of people have no clue how to deal with anything out of the normal. Gen I'm sure is going to CRUSH for a while as long as you bother to learn him. I haven't even fought OR unlocked him yet so I have no idea what to expect fighting him. I'd probably lose.

That piggybacks off of what I tell people when they ask "should I pick Ken/Ryu to start with? I'm new." The problem is that while they have a quasi simple strategy and easy to execute moves they're just way too common. People know what to expect from them. While your Rufus strategy is a good one in terms of just getting wins it's not really making you better. You're just playing off of people's ignorance.

This is also why I tend to get a lot of wins with Chun-Li. I have to believe I'm singlehandedly teaching the Live! community that her ultra hits from full screen and passes through fireballs. When I get Ultra meter I can give you almost 9:1 odds that if I jump away to full screen and wait they're going to toss a fireball and they're going to eat a free ultra. Unless I feel like showing people up with that, or actually need the round I tend to not even try to land it this way because it's basically like handicapping my opponent and that isn't helping me get better... Although I wont bait it I'll definitely punish with it if someone gives me the opportunity.

The funny thing about Ken, and to a greater extent Ryu is that they aren't basic characters anymore. Unless someone's braindead or just hyper aggressive you're never going to land their ultras. The most reliable way with Ryu you need to be able to FADC into it and this is far from a beginner strategy. You can also land it after you trade a DP with a jump in, but this is situational and not 100% player dependent. A well played rushdown Ryu is very difficult to handle.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.