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[Multiplatform] Boobs and... Lightsabers - Soul Calibur 4
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Megalith
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Old Aug 9, 2008, 03:12 AM #251 of 305
The "DLC" is already on the disc---you are just downloading an unlock key.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 9, 2008, 03:26 AM #252 of 305
Perhaps this would also be a good time to steal crap from my friends who blew off a bunch of money buying stuff in the XBL Marketplace.

Easier to system link the 360s together or buy a memory card unit (who the hell actually does that? ;_;)?

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Old Aug 9, 2008, 04:53 AM Local time: Aug 9, 2008, 03:53 AM #253 of 305
Do you honestly have to be connected to Live or PSN to actually USE the equipment?

Since my connection at home is still pretty bad, I can't get online. When I edited my character, it said "One or more equipments that are unavailable at this time were removed."

Seriously. What the fuck. I want my SCII Nightmare Helmet.
I tried this out (unplugging internet, signing in under a different account that had not touched SCIV in the event it would somehow recognize that lacechan had grabbed the DLC) and I am able to access the DLC items just fine.

I'm not sure what the error is in your case

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 9, 2008, 04:55 AM #254 of 305
I'll probably just re-download the content or something.

Just a wild guess, but I hope that renaming my hard drive didn't mess with the content or anything... I doubt it would. :|

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Aug 9, 2008, 05:43 AM #255 of 305
Going off the PSN note, and back on to the DL Content.

Do you honestly have to be connected to Live or PSN to actually USE the equipment?

Since my connection at home is still pretty bad, I can't get online. When I edited my character, it said "One or more equipments that are unavailable at this time were removed."

Seriously. What the fuck. I want my SCII Nightmare Helmet.
I can't answer for sure regarding the PS3. But with the 360, if you download something and then put the harddrive on a different 360, it won't let you use it unless you're logged in. Don't know if that helps any.

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Old Aug 9, 2008, 10:02 AM #256 of 305
Well for the ps3 I think all you need to do is log into their account and view their download history to download it yourself. Although scarlet should know more about that psh >_>

Anyway new update on the game 1.02. Probably online stability. I hope they incorporate being able to chat while actually playing instead of being cut off right after the versus screen.

Additional Spam:
Ok so I have a question.
Tower of Souls floor 24, 240 point combo damage.

How da fruck?

EDIT: nevermind I found a trick with yoshimitsu which made it incredibly easy

How ya doing, buddy?

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Old Aug 9, 2008, 05:56 PM #257 of 305
Well, the whole point of omitting chat from the actual matches is to cut down on lag.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Aug 9, 2008, 10:01 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2008, 05:01 AM #258 of 305
Is on-line gameplay broken, or is it just me (PS3)? I just battled a level 41 (I'm level 2) and once he didn't get his initial blow, he just spammed the same attack which I had no idea how to block. Also I just went against a lvl. 19 and once he didn't get his initial attack up and got surprised by my low attacks I could take him out easily.

What the fuck is up with this?

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Aug 9, 2008, 11:05 PM #259 of 305
How do you think people level up so quickly? Skill? Ha!

People just care about winning. Spamming attacks is the norm on both PSN and Live.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 02:44 AM #260 of 305
The online mode is good for fucking around---that's all. A reflex-based game is practically impossible, which is why everyone rushes down their opponent. GIs and quick-frame attacks can shut them up---too bad you can't rely on those online.

The best characters to use online are those with low attacks built into their movesets, and fast unblockables, which can be spammed all day and can't be guarded against. I just got owned by an Amy player---I'm not going to call her cheap because I'm unfamiliar with the character and how she plays offline, but she has an unblockable that seems like it comes out in 2 seconds, and a bunch of spammy regular attacks that not only move her forward, but are super-quick and end in lows.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 04:42 AM Local time: Aug 10, 2008, 04:42 AM #261 of 305
I didn't even bother to level past 20 Online because there's little to no point with how shitty the network code is for the game. Soon as they get their shit in order with it I'll be more than happy to return to it.

There's really no excuse that VF5 online is practically lag free and this is full of shit. Get with it Namco.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 10, 2008, 07:41 AM Local time: Aug 10, 2008, 08:41 PM #262 of 305
Online is only great when playing with friends. If you actually want wins on Ranked, you have to spam. The lag makes timing of GIs and other moves near impossible. It's retarded, but you can't do anything about it.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 09:57 AM #263 of 305
I'm specifically avoiding ranked matches because of the people who go around and to the same combo over and over again. In unranked matches I just find people practicing with how good they are with a certain character, practicing how to spam moves, or just looking for a match to show off their created characters.
I'll most probably spam kilik once I do go for ranked matches, I'll just wait to see if the other player picks astharoth.
But yeah as scarlet said, it's mostly fun with friends because we can just fuck around and not take it all that seriously.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 12:28 PM #264 of 305
People hitting you with the same attack over and over again = frame advantage. That means that you should:

a. Block the move and then retaliate.
b. Block the move and then sidewalk and punish whiff.
c. Block the move and duck if it's a high.
d. Block the move and jump attack if it's a low.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 12:33 PM #265 of 305
Or guard impact it, since it's the same attack. If you can't recognize the pattern or rhythm to it then it's no wonder you keep getting destroyed by it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Aug 10, 2008, 12:35 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2008, 10:35 AM #266 of 305
Or guard impact it
Online? Stupid fucking advice. Listen to Manny.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 12:43 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2008, 08:43 PM 1 #267 of 305
Just use your best attacks and heal when necessary.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 01:44 PM #268 of 305
I've been able to pull of some guard impacts online, on purpose.
If I ever do see the same combo performed over and over again I just simply throw a quick punch or kick since those tend to be quicker.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 01:50 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2008, 11:50 AM #269 of 305
It's not a matter of whether you can do it, so much as doing it consistently enough for it to be viable. Which, with online play's fucked up play standard, it's much more convenient to pick something that requires less stringent execution. IE (with due respect): Why even mention you can do it when it obviously isn't helping against spammers.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 03:45 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2008, 03:45 PM #270 of 305
You're literally forced into choosing "Custom Match" and looking for those magic 4 and 5 bar latency people no matter what you do. But pretty much every Kilik, Siegfried, Astaroth, Nightmare, and Rock spammer can be dealt with using quick sidestepping and 8 way moves.

GI is simply not an option unless you're playing against a 5 bar latency opponent, and even then it's a high risk move. Just use someone you're familiar with, and wait for the proper timing to do something. Break through a spammer's guard one time, and keep the heat on them to win the match since they have no idea what to do under pressure.

I had a 22 winning streak at one point in Ranked using only Mitsurugi, so it is possible to have decent matches with people. I ended up losing to one badass Ivy player that had my number, but eh. That's the way you want to lose, when you do.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Aug 10, 2008, 04:29 PM Local time: Aug 11, 2008, 05:29 AM #271 of 305
I don't even have the luxury of looking for those 4/5 bar players. Had better luck with quick match. Took me HOURS to get to level 20. Thank god I have that over and done with; even more so before the move-spam infestation began.

Hadn't encountered many problems with spammers though, Taki's jumps and rolls works like a charm.

How ya doing, buddy?
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Old Aug 10, 2008, 04:39 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2008, 04:39 PM #272 of 305
I haven't played online yet -- what's the point of getting ranked higher? That unlock new things?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 04:42 PM Local time: Aug 11, 2008, 05:42 AM #273 of 305
Go to Museum --> Battle Records. Look through the items in there. You will then find the only point to do so.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Aug 10, 2008, 04:59 PM #274 of 305
5 bar connections mean nothing.

In fact, I ran into more "connecting..." messages with 5 bar players.

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Old Aug 10, 2008, 09:56 PM #275 of 305
Dunno about you guys, but 5 bar matches were pretty much flawless for me on XBox Live.

If I ever do see the same combo performed over and over again I just simply throw a quick punch or kick since those tend to be quicker.
Unless you block if first, that's exactly what you should NOT do. There are sometimes where you shouldn't retaliate at all too. If you're fighting against anyone with some any sort of knowledge of the game, they might use something like a combo that's safe on block for set ups. Some stuff even gives frame advantage on block.

If you guys want to really be viable at all in vs play, look this stuff up. If you don't know about somethign like frame advantage then I can kill you with something retarded like Liz's 3K. If you get hit by one, you're only option is to block/GI/JI the next one. If you try to move or interrupt it in anyway, it will interrupt because of the frame advantage that it gives. This is a example of a tool to use against mashers. It's called "training them to block". Of course, to the untrained, this will look like me being a cheap spamming bastard, when I'm really just making you look bad because of lack of knowledge. It's like someone not knowing they are able to attempt to block shots during a basketball game.

Just throwing that out there...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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