[DS] Chrono Trigger DS - Retards complaining about a new optional ending. Fun inside!

Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow

Yes, I can, and I will. If you're going to out of hand reject a game just because of the name on the box without viewing any comments, reviews, previews, or videos of the game, then you are a moron. .

Considering their track record is 1 in, like, five years, then being a moron has been working pretty well thus far.

But regardless, you're right. I'll look into the god damn game.

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Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow

I recall seeing that, while it sold well here, it actually sold a lot less than expected in Japan.

None of us can really account for the Japanese game. Their version of Chrono Trigger as well as Cross are entirely different affairs from a writing standpoint. Considering what is lost in translation and such, Cross had an entire script text made so that the same lines from multiple characters would come out with just different "accents." The Japanese version, if I recall correctly, doesn't suffer (or maybe suffer as much) from this problem.

In any case, I don't think Hachifusa was actually sticking his nose up at The World Ends with You intentionally. There are many companies out there that I don't actively have an interest in, and since games cost money that I don't have oozing out of my eye sockets, I too often pass up games that might not necessarily be developed by a company I'd normally "trust."

I've gone out of my way to buy games I had a bad feeling about but wanted to give a chance, and you know what? Generally, I get disappointed rather than pleasantly surprised. There's nothing wrong with trusting your gut, and it isn't like The World Ends with You is a perfect game, either.

I was speaking idiomatically.

So apparently there are two screenshots.



What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I just realized something... there's potential to fuck with the original translation.

Fuck.

FELIPE NO

So, ignoring the bitching about how Squeenix doesn't know from cool, I'd like to bring up the fact that this will possibly have voice overs. Speculation:

Charlie Chaplin or George Carlin for Chrono. If neither of them is available, Kevin Smith.

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Capcom and Sega push out a lot of crap and rehashes too but they still do occasionally churn out some gems, Square is the same way. (Hell, Capcom is a lot worse imo but yeah, just my opinion.)

I'm just going to have to agree that it's pretty dumb to avoid a game entirely just because of the developer's name on the box . Honestly, it doesn't take a whole lot of effort (or time) to view an article or two, or a trailer at gametrailers, or even just wait until it's out and check out all the reviews to get a handle on how the game plays.

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Considering their track record is 1 in, like, five years,

No, you've probably missed a few other good games because of this mindset too. Just saying. Maybe not even from Square (though that's still possible too), but from other companies in general.

Edit: Also, the sort of point I was trying to make (poorly, I'll give you that) is the company name means absolutely nothing. Large companies like SE have tons of smaller development teams (TWEWY was developed by "Jupiter", actually) and thus quality will fluctuate pretty wildly. Basically, "Jupiter" is something to keep your eyes on in the future I guess, because they made a quality game.

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Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow

Stop trying to come up with ways to dodge the fact that you want S-E to do with Radical Dreamers the exact same thing you're getting mad at them for doing with Chrono Trigger.

To fling some more old shit, i never said i had anything against the port of Chrono Trigger. In fact i'm supporting that decision. What my original nickers twister was this.

I want them to remake Radical Dreamers because i never played it, and i think it could be remade into something that would give the series a shot in the arm.

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Those screens look exactly the same as the original. I mean, I knew it was a port, but c'mon, couldn't they have at least added a glossier sheen to the goddam graphics!? Oh well.

The second screenshot has words emblazoned over it that reads, "This is... where!?" As if anyone doesn't understand that basic plot of CT these days.

Originally Posted by Forsety

I'm just going to have to agree that it's pretty dumb to avoid a game entirely just because of the developer's name on the box . Honestly, it doesn't take a whole lot of effort (or time) to view an article or two, or a trailer at gametrailers, or even just wait until it's out and check out all the reviews to get a handle on how the game plays..

I've been wondering why I've been crucified about this, and then I realized I didn't make something clear.

I haven't intentionally avoided anything. I didn't slam reviews away because "OH NO SQUARE ENIX". I said I don't regularly read gaming mags, and when I do I tend to glance through them. But sometimes I do read them. Even games I know probably won't be too good (i.e. Kingdom Hearts II) I'll read through, because the name is recognizable and its' not hard to read a few paragraphs of text.

I also want to make clear that I did like FFXII, so I was just saying generically that Square Enix tends to make bad games these days, and the phrases I was using (1 in five years) wasn't meant to be literal (Christ in heaven).

What it was with TWEWY is not that I intentionally avoided it because it was Square Enix but that I guess I completely missed the hype or something because I just saw, "Oh, generic RPG title from Square Enix on the DS". C'MON GUYS. That's not exactly their shining area, the handheld systems. Not to mention the one screenshot I remember (and the image I keep picturing, actually) involved two teenage looking kids with weird zippers.

So I don't have this RABID anti-Square Enix stance. I just saw a game that, in line with all areas (generically bad producer, Nomura-esque characters, DS game) I didn't pay much attention to, though I'll look into it now.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Look, you will get whatever the hell Squeenix decides you'll get. Whining and bitching about what might/might not be included is fucking retarded because they don't fucking care what you want to see. People will buy the game on name recognition alone, and Squeenix will reap a lot of money for minimal effort. You are not a cog in the wheel. Quit your squeaking because you're not gonna get any oil here.

One of two games will be made:

1) A faithful port: The translations are left as is, the graphics are kept intact. Nothing is added because there's no need, people will buy it anyhow.

Result: Half the gamer base is outraged because it will have been thirteen years since CT was originally released; you'd think (huff!) that they could've added something! It's not like the capacity wasn't there and why should only the newer generation experience something new?

2) An updated adventure: The game will feature enhanced graphics, altered scripts and new secrets/features, bringing the game closer to the original developers' original vision.

Result: Half the gamer base is outraged because HOW DARE YOU mess with a classic! There was enough game there for newer fans to enjoy already. God, what's wrong with Squeenix, always tampering, always spoiling an otherwise proven formula? That's how they fucked up FFIV.

Either way, there will be both rejoicing and complaining. So who cares what the end product is until it actually comes out? It's fucking Chrono Trigger, one way or the other. If you don't like what Squeenix releases, just play the ROM like everyone else has for the past decade.

Hell, just play it now. Fuck Squeenix.

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Originally Posted by Hachifusa

Those screens look exactly the same as the original. I mean, I knew it was a port, but c'mon, couldn't they have at least added a glossier sheen to the goddam graphics!? Oh well.

Without the incredibly unnecessary effort of going through and completely redoing EVERYTHING, the only option they'd have is one of those incredibly annoying ZSNES filters that the XBLA uses on all their classic games.

I may be in the minority on this, but those filters make the game look WORSE. I'd rather not see a spit shine done on this, I'll take either the original graphics or a complete remake. And a complete remake of a really old game probably isn't worth the effort.

I was speaking idiomatically.

The game will probably look a little better on a small screen anyway because low resolution 2D on a large screen tends to pixelate something awful.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow

Without the incredibly unnecessary effort of going through and completely redoing EVERYTHING, the only option they'd have is one of those incredibly annoying ZSNES filters that the XBLA uses on all their classic games.

I don't really know what you're referencing, here. I was talking about the way FFIV looked on the GBA, you know, with the graphics kind of brighter. Is that what you're talking about?

Originally Posted by :words: Overflow

Hell, just play it now. Fuck Squeenix.

OK.

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I don't personally care how it turns out. I'll be getting it and playing it regardless. I would like to think that maybe one of the best things about this game coming out for the DS is that it gives new gamers a chance to play such a timeless classic. Gamers can easily download a rom if they want to play it so bad. I guess nothing beats actually owning the game itself whether its the SNES or PSX version.

It is true a lot of people regard Chrono Trigger one of the greatest rpgs ever made for its time. It even still stands out as one of the best rpgs ever made period. I just wish fans should stop screaming bloody murder if a company decides to tamper with their favourite game a bit. More than anything else this game could put some revival into the chrono series. If you don't like the potential ds version than go back to playing it on the snes.

Besides people should stop pre-judging something until it officially comes out. It doesn't really matter. When the game comes out for the DS people will always find something to complain about. Its unavoidable. If there are people that are just getting into rpg gaming, they deserve a chance to play such a great game even if its just a port.

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

So apparently there are two screenshots.

Also someone in Japan finally bought a scanner!

it is very large!:

Jam it back in, in the dark.

OH BOY I HOPE THIS THING IS A PLAYABLE CHARACTER!!

But yeah that screenshot of Magus' Castle in the lower left looks pretty sweet, stretched across the touch screen and all.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

That is the Shōnen Jump pirate. Get out.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

Also someone in Japan finally bought a scanner!

Would it be wrong of me to state that I still think Toriyama's designs look like ass-drippings?

That shit-eating grin on Crono is horrendous. And besides, it's not like he ever displays a single emotion in the game. Why would he grin smugly for the promo art?

If Squeenix wants to make any improvements at all, hire someone else to do the new promo art, then rationalize that the sprites are nearly fifteen years old, of course they're going to look way off by comparison.

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They should rewrite the script to actually give Crono some damn lines. Having a silent protagonist is pretty annoying.

I was speaking idiomatically.

What annoys me is they're using artwork from way back for the ad. That's just flat out lazy on Tori's part.

@Aardark : True. He did speak in Chrono Cross.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by :words: Overflow

That shit-eating grin on Crono is horrendous. And besides, it's not like he ever displays a single emotion in the game. Why would he grin smugly for the promo art?

Crono has no emotions?:

Like everyone else though, I'll buy this game. I probably shouldn't, but it's freaking Chrono Trigger. Hey, if Blue Dragon can have its own anime maybe Chrono Trigger can too...aside from that short one they had to promote the game using Gato, Johnny, a Nu, and that monkey thing.

Originally Posted by chato

@Aardark : True. He did speak in Chrono Cross.

Chrono Cross never happened. It's a standalone game, it's not a sequel. *insert more useless denial here*

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Originally Posted by Aardark

They should rewrite the script to actually give Crono some damn lines. Having a silent protagonist is pretty annoying.

But then it would totally destroy the point of rule number 18 in The Grand List of Console Role Playing Game Cliches!

Chrono's Complaint:

The less the main character talks, the more words are put into his mouth, and therefore the more trouble he gets into through no fault of his own.

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I still think that, even without updated graphics/voice overs, Crono needs a voice over.

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They should have voice overs, but continue to not give Crono any lines. It'd be great to hear the characters have one-lined conversations with him.

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Those screencaps from that magazine don't really look that improved. Are they really improving the graphics or did they just say that instead of "we're just gonna put this on two screens at once and call it good"?

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You apparently missed my post earlier.

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Charlie Chaplin or George Carlin for Chrono. If neither of them is available, Kevin Smith.

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