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Originally Posted by avanent

if you look around the web, theres alot of 'he fucking sucks', 'all of his movies are crap', etc going around followed with statements like 'i want my money back' and 'he should go back to iraq' and 'hollywood shouldn't allow him to make movies'.

I never said that everyone subscribed to this train of thought. But theres alot of it going around.

Theres also a good amount of his fans stating that those people 'just didnt get it' and that the movie was actually amazing.

His fans like his movie, and the people who dont like his movies, continue not to like them. But alot of those dissatisfied, seem authentically surprised and upset, as if it is absolutely confusing how they could dislike his 7th major motion picture, when they disliked all of his previous ones too. Its as if these people are devoid of the pattern-seeking processes in the human brain.

You just keep going. Now, you're arguing with Deni.

I think it's particularly hilarious how you can't seem to read (or are choosing not to?) what I said. I don't dislike all his movies. His last two were particularly shitastic!

What is the problem here?

I'm not a fan, nor do I hate him. I don't run out the instant he makes a movie to judge it! I reserve judgment since I don't know what to expect! You're assuming (yes, you) that I either love him or hate him after I told you multiple times that I do neither.

Hopefully you can start to comprehend my frustration with you when you don't seem to understand things after multiple different explanations in various phrasing.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I acknowledged it was a good argument, and stated that he was, at the very least, partially right. I'm not arguing with him. I am actually, partially, agreeing with him. His argument is correct, but i don't think it applies to everyone.

I also stated that these hit or miss all arguments dont apply to everyone, but that there alot of people, whom are displaying hit or miss all, on the internet currently complaining or praising this movie. I even specifically stated that they dont apply to you, since you neither like nor dislike all of his movies. I never stated that you liked or disliked all of his work, i even specifically acknowledged and stated that you like and dislike some of his work. Why you think I am assuming that you like or dislike all of his work one way or another, when I specifically stated otherwise, I dont know.

How ya doing, buddy?

I come from the opposite end of the spectrum. Since I'm an intellectual in real life, I found The Sixth Sense to be a complete piece of fucking crap.

Then again, once you read Ambrose Bierce, it becomes ingrained in your head that anything you read is going to end "BUT HES BEEN DEAD THE WHOLE TIME". Be that as it may, I thought the whole movie was a bore and haven't bothered to watch it since it was in theaters when theres things like pornography to download and old episodes of The Outer Limits to watch.

I love - love love love - Unbreakable. Admittedly, I grew up a comic book nerd, so to see someone make a slow-paced, more-thoughtful genre movie, it was really up my alley (additionally, I really like the original Hulk movie, despite its obvious flaws, for similar reasons).

Now, here is where we come into avanent's problem. Despite M Night Mcfuckincheese making one incredibly overrated movie that everyone liked and one really good movie that a lot less people liked - we can all agree on one thing and thats everything past Unbreakable was a steady decline into Retardoworld. No one gives a fuck or shit or goddamn that you think otherwise - not only are you just some shovefuck on the Internet who does nothing, means nothing and probably hocks Junior Mints into a urinal at ten paces to make a living - but you've never bothered to prove otherwise.

You have Pulitzer Prize winning critics and people who've seen more movies than you and I have seen squared by the amount of animals Sassafrass has consumed in her eternal war against the Secret Secular Bovine Society. You have basically everyone on TV and in print and on the Internet - everyone from Joe Sixpack to billionaires to people who work at sock plants picking lint out of machines - disliking this guy's crappy movies for dumbasses.

Feel lonely yet?

You, and by you I mean *you* by whatever ugly Christian name your parents saw fit to brand you with, have against you what is apparently every genius, middleman, dullard and dumbass the Internet and the rest of the world has to offer. You are not smart enough to overcome the stupid and too stupid to overcome the smart. Face it - your opinion means jack shit because you mean jack shit and you came to the right place; GFF is full of people who mean jack shit. After all, we let Minion in.

In all honesty, if you're part of M Night Scatophile's fan base, no wonder everyone else in the world hates you and him.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Lehah: I stated that the happening was not a strong movie, and could have been better. I was entertained, as I found the directing itself somewhat interesting. Never said I liked the movie.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by avanent

Lehah: I stated that the happening was not a strong movie, and could have been better. I was entertained, as I found the directing itself somewhat interesting. Never said I liked the movie.

For someone who was simply "entertained", the lady doth protest too much.

FELIPE NO

I could've said I was entertained too, but in the most perverse and completely opposite way possible.

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Called it. Swish.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Turns out it IS a B-Movie, according to Shyamalan.

No wonder. Even then, it still fails as a B-movie in a way.

How ya doing, buddy?

What the hell was he thinking?

But then again, Mark Wahlberg is the best actor to cast in what's supposed to be a B-movie. He's like the defining B-actor in his generation, hands down.

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B movies are not supposed to have large budgets. That's why they are B movies! Unless he made this on a shoestring budget and didn't make a big deal out of it, or something.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

No... You know what WAS a B-movie? GRINDHOUSE. And even THAT schlock was a hell of a lot funnier than this.

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Originally Posted by Matt

What the hell was he thinking?

But then again, Mark Wahlberg is the best actor to cast in what's supposed to be a B-movie. He's like the defining B-actor in his generation, hands down.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I am pretty sure that Mr. Campbell is not in Mr. Wahlberg's generation!

I am kind of deeply sad that you people acquiesced to operate according to Avanent's Rules Of Order after all. I can't even sleep without this place getting all polite and considerate.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

He says it's a B movie but then in the very next sentence says that this is because it's got zombies in. Having zombies in a film doesn't make it a B movie, it makes it a zombie film. They guy clearly is full of shit and trying desperately to back-pedal and cover his arse for making yet another monumentally shit film.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Pangalin

I am pretty sure that Mr. Campbell is not in Mr. Wahlberg's generation!

Not only that, but Bruce can act if he has to.

Unlike Mark.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Matt

Not only that, but Bruce can act if he has to.

Unlike Mark.

What? No he fucking can't. You're joking, right?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Pitfall 3D still counts as acting, right?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Hey, let's not forget a little gem known as Sky High, okay?

Campbell played a gym teacher in a Disney movie, and did so without crying in utter shame. If that's not acting skill, you tell me what is.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Encephalon

No... You know what WAS a B-movie? GRINDHOUSE. And even THAT schlock was a hell of a lot funnier than this.

One of these lines is false. Can you, the viewers at home, figure out which one?

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What? Grindhouse wasn't a B-movie?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Or entertaining. Or well-made. Or worth mentioning.

How ya doing, buddy?

The only problem with Grindhouse was Death Proof. It was B-movie-like, but it doesn't excuse it from being excessively masturbatory with the dialogue. Tarantino loves his writing, but its often decent enough to be watchable. The dialogue in Death Proof was not only shitty, but even more excessive than usual. It just sucked.

The thing that boggles my mind about what is considered a B-movie these days is that they often have big budgets, which is precisely the opposite of what a B-movie used to be. Now, a B-movie is just a purposefully bad or schlocky movie, regardless of budget, which I guess could be seen as an "evolution" of the B-movie, but I just see it as directors trying to pawn off their horrible shit as something they did on purpose. M Night calling The Happening "the best B-movie you will ever see" is proof of this.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by sprouticus

The only problem with Grindhouse was Death Proof. It was B-movie-like...

Actually, your last part there is exactly the problem. You don't set out to make a b-movie - thats just pastiche. A real b-movie tries to be more than its budget or talent allows. Similarly, you don't go out and say "I'm going to make a Blaxploitation movie". John Singleton tried to update that genre with Shaft seven years ago and it fell on its face.

M Night Shitmypantsohgod's statement that The Happening is a b-movie seems to be more akin to the Aesop fable about the fox who couldn't get the grapes - his movie failed, so he's back-peddling in an attempt to save face.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

In fairness LeHah, the movie was pretty clearly trying to be a B-movie, albeit not very well. Had you seen it, you'd know what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass

In fairness LeHah, the movie was pretty clearly trying to be a B-movie, albeit not very well. Had you seen it, you'd know what I'm talking about.

And LeHah's point is that you can't set out to make a b-movie. It's not a genre to be tackled. It's something that happens when you set out to make a normal movie.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

See Deni.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.