[Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl Tournament Discussion

Originally Posted by Chaotic

This is what I get for not refreshing, but this is what I needed to see. Sprout, I love the idea. We'd probably give rule priority towards the last place clan. That way, the people speak, and everyone (I guess) will be satisfied. What does everyone else think about his idea?

Glad you dig the idea.

Ideally, we would do anything goes for the first round. There's nothing unfair about that. After week 1, the last place clan chooses a new rule that stays into effect for the duration of the week. However! What happens if the same clan gets to pick a rule 2 or more consecutive weeks in a row?

I have an idea for that, in the form of a rolling rule system. Check out this scenario:

- Clan A loses week 1. For week 2, Clan A sets "Rule A," which remains in effect for all of week 2.
- Clan A loses week 2. For week 3, Clan A KEEPS "Rule A" and also invokes "Rule B," both of which last all of week 3.
- Rinse and repeat until another clan loses.

I think this is easier than it sounds, and will make things fair, interesting, and above all, fun.

The question is, do we set guidelines for the rules? Or can the rules be whatever the hell they want? I vote for whatever the hell they want. Keeps shit interesting and keeps all the other clans on their toes.

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As long as there's majority agreement in how you want the tournament run, then the people in the minority will either have to deal with it or not play. If you guys are going to go ahead with your currently established ideas, that's great! As long as you can get a decent body of participants who also agree, this shit will get off the ground and the people who are playing are gonna have a hell of a good time.

That's what this is all about.

That's kind of why the tournament scene can keep going, even in the face of staunch criticism. Because they have a majority of people who will still support the cause, even if a few people here and there are butthurt about how some people want to play.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I kinda wish we could put sprouticus's idea and immp's idea together. Both add more than a little fun to this whole clan thing.

I agree with the banned stages so far, excluding Hyrule. I'm against scrolling stages and that includes Rainbow Cruise. Hyrule and New Pork City are big, but if we're just going to have three minute matches size shouldn't make much of a difference.

I'm fine with low item settings, but are you banning certain items? (healing items, hammers, etc.,)

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Kesubei

I kinda wish we could put sprouticus's idea and immp's idea together. Both add more than a little fun to this whole clan thing.

I agree with the banned stages so far, excluding Hyrule. I'm against scrolling stages and that includes Rainbow Cruise. Hyrule and New Pork City are big, but if we're just going to have three minute matches size shouldn't make much of a difference.

I'm fine with low item settings, but are you banning certain items? (healing items, hammers, etc.,)

Most people want them on.

And three minute matches? Yes, size matters. Have fun chasing down your opponent in New Pork or Hyrule on a three minute time limit.

FELIPE NO

Do you guys want me to implement a poll about this? It might be easier to track what the general consensus is, then.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Spreadsheet

Do you guys want me to implement a poll about this? It might be easier to track what the general consensus is, then.

Oh, please do so. After 4 pages, we'll just go over what EVERYONE wants again. Just starting with rules... Do we want to record everything, or not...

Then items... Stages... The whole kit and kaboodle.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Oh, please do so. After 4 pages, we'll just go over what EVERYONE wants again. Just starting with rules... Do we want to record everything, or not...

Then items... Stages... The whole kit and kaboodle.

LoL Sounds like you're a bit bitchy chaotic lol.

But I seriously don't even remember what people want anymore

There's nowhere I can't reach.

It's been a long day, but I'm not even sure where we all stand on this, so it's just best to slap a poll on this baby to see what everyone wants and then we can start to finalize this.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I like Sprout's idea =D
It's kinda like the law cards from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. Only more fun.
I don't know if you guys also want to incorporate wackier rules like:
- Rule A: Bob-ombs items only!
- Rule B: No Pokemon allowed (this includes the characters, stages and items.)
- Rule C: 8-bit mode (character and item selection is limited to characters originating from the 8-bit era.)

But yeah, doing something like that could prove fun.

How ya doing, buddy?

Even wackier, each participant throws in some sort of rule card that we use throughout the league. Each week, the last place clan chooses two cards. These rules would be in effect for the next week.

I like where this idea is going.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I can only do one poll per thread at a time, but I'll make it a multi option poll. Pick one option PER TOPIC, a'ight?

If someone fucks up, we'll have to not account for them in the poll.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Well, we'll just start with rules right now:

It's either:

Recording Option: 3 stock, 3 minutes
Non-Recording Option: 4 stock, 8 minutes
Other (Please notify)

FELIPE NO

Hold on, I'm playing around with this. I don't have a direct ability to add polls to existing threads. I am going to play around with my merge fuctions.

Sorry if I blow something up while I'm doing this. >_>

I like how I can't add a poll. Fuck.

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Originally Posted by Chaotic

Even wackier, each participant throws in some sort of rule card that we use throughout the league. Each week, the last place clan chooses two cards. These rules would be in effect for the next week.

I like where this idea is going.

God damn I like that. What I was going for was the losing clan making up ANY rule, but the idea of "rule cards" is definitely awesome.

Guys, seriously, we NEED to keep this shit as SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE. Skills, your help is a godsend, but adding a poll to what we have here is just going to add confusion.

PROPOSAL:

First week of the tournament, ANYTHING GOES. After that, "Rule Cards" take effect.

Simple, effective, everyone wins.

Ya dig?

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Agreed for the proposal, it would cause the least amount of headaches for chaotic at this point...I hope.

How ya doing, buddy?

I totally agree with that. Items are affected by this also, but just more importantly since this seems to be the big thing.

3 stock, 3 minutes or 4 stock, 8 minutes?

Once we get this settled, I think we can get the ball rolling.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I vote for 4 stock/8 minutes.

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Added a little manual poll in the first post. I too vote for 4 stock, 8 minutes.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I don't see much reason to go for shorter matches for the sake of recording it. So I'll vote 4 stock/8 minutes too.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I don't know about you guys, but my performance deteriorates as time goes on-- my thumbs get tired and my eyes water. Not only is 3/3 good for recording matches (seeing as I'd be interested in receiving other people's recordings), but it'd be good for not being too drawn out.

I'd like to see three lives, three minutes.

FELIPE NO

Well, I would like to see 3 lives 3 minutes (and i did mention it would be a best of 3 matches anyways) because that way people cant go "hurhurhur!!! The stage is why i lost"

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Put my vote down for the 3 stock/3 minutes option. That option offers less of a chance that lag/unintentional disconnects interrupt a match. Also, I'm interested in seeing some replays.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Just on the 4 stock, 8 minutes. Matches NEVER usually last that long, the 8 minutes is usually just a safety cushion for the 4 stock. It would seem a little challenging to attempt at KOing someone with only 3 minutes on the clock. Meaning, you would have to beat up someone in less than a minute in order to finish with a Game Set.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Well, the online matches I've played with it went to about 5 minutes having 4 people in there with 5 stock...so if you think about it...it could actually last longer depending on the strategies used.

I also created the (3 stock/3 min(best of 3)) idea with the factor that it'll make people go with full force. If they wanna KO once then run thats there call (which is why I have the point set up that I did. But I can also adapt it over to the 4/8 if it comes down to that

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I've gone up to 20 minutes on a 5-stock match with my friend in Melee, so I don't doubt that two skilled players like us could drain the clock rather easily. 8 minutes is a good cushion, I'd say.

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