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Seriously though? if you need to defend your beliefs, theres something wrong with them. Believe in something, stop trying to sell it with this guardhouse lawyer nonsense. Most amazing jew boots |
You know how I feel about the whole mess. I was just trying to make a point, albeit vague. That point being that among Christians, there's sometimes such a vast, vast difference in what they believe between congregations. I wonder why they all call themselves "Christians," and not by their congregational organization. Like Morons and Jehovah's Witnesses. "Christian" is too broad if you ask me. I was speaking idiomatically. |
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But perhaps we don't "believe" scientific facts, I mean, they're facts. No belief required. So how about moral beliefs, like equal rights for women, minorities, etc. Are people who defend those types of beliefs wrong? Or maybe people just feel like speaking up when certain people get the wrong idea. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Belief implies a desire to put faith into something.
That minorities in our nation are LESS than whites? I am sure you're not saying that, but there's a difference in believing that women and minorities are unequal to white men and putting faith into a deity. I hope you recognize this. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
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I will defend science. I will defend morals. And I will defend my faith. What I'm trying to say is, contrary to what has been stated by another, that just because someone has to defend a belief doesn't automatically discredit that belief.
If you want to qualify LeHah's comment and change it to "...if you need to defend your RELIGIOUS beliefs, there's something wrong with them...", that would lead to another back-and-forth. But that would be an argument against ALL religions, albeit not a particularly good one. And yes, I must admit that there is a difference between morals and faith. In the example I used the difference is clear. But for many issues (for me at least) the dividing line becomes gray. Charity, civil obedience, abortion, socialism, etc.: It's really difficult for me to separate myself from my faith when dealing with these types of moral issues. At times they seem to be the same thing.
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That said - the fact that you equate intelligent people with moral people shows just how fucking insipid and small-minded you actually are. I may be a sinner going to Hell the way he wants to - but I am not the one who's giving the big Jesus handjob of moral superiority over people who make a personal decision to do wrong. I mean, at the very least, any time I get head, I do it to spite your God. I was speaking idiomatically. |
And you also bite off of Deadwood, which is pretty fucking sweet.
The world needs more Wild Bill. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
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"Can't you let me go to hell the way I want?"
"Yeah. Yeah, I can do that." Great line. A buddy of mine once told me he almost wished Otakukin were real, because then maybe, JUST MAYBE, he had a shot of being reborn as Wild Bill in Deadwood. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
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Creationism is NOT Creation Science. Creationism is a religious belief, Creation Science is a deliberate attempt to mislead and misrepresent what it is. Shut up. There's nowhere I can't reach. John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
Two thousand years from now, I bet most people will think all our modern theories are moronic and that we're all dipshits for thinking otherwise.
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Some churches say you'll go to hell if you don't. A lot of people in those churches dont' really even like doing it, but who wants to go to hell? And then there are people who think you just haven't thought hard enough about it. I mean, I understand that, I think the same way about a lot of people to. Generally I'm right. I was speaking idiomatically. |
HOLY SHIT I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING HERE:
I'm a Christian. One of those "liberal" ones, which means that I've started down the path that certain sects of Judaism have been on A LONG TIME: the one where you take the Bible and make sense of it intellectually. (It is possible!) I blame my (very strong in his Christian faith) Bible prof from my freshman year at a conservative Christian college. He basically said that the 'six day' thing is because the Jewish people for whom the Bible was originally written had no concept of hundreds of thousands of years, let ALONE the millions of years that the universe has been around. Oh, and the fact that creation is told twice (in different ways and orders, even) kinda makes it hard for everything in the bible to be ENTIRELY FACTUAL and NOT METAPHORICAL at all. Plus I believe that science merely shows how God works (or set stuff in motion). This comes about through the FACT that microevolution is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt and macroevolution is mostly microevolution over millions of years. So why couldn't God have built evolution into the Universe? It makes enough sense to satisfy me. OK I'm done for now. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? It was lunchtime at Wagstaff.
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I find this all hilarious as hell. See you there! FELIPE NO |
Except, Watts, that this moved away from philosophical debate and into the realm of actual issue when they started teaching Creation Science in certain classrooms in the US. Or that at any point, dozens of school systems across the United States are being lobbied to include Creation Science as curriculum, taking away from actual education.
You're talking creationism. We're talking Creation Science. Very different things, skipper. We don't care about creationism, we care about the small sect of Creationists trying to push it as SCIENCE into our CLASSROOMS. And if education isn't worth getting worked up about, that's your problem and you can find somewhere else to not follow the line of conversation. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
There is no rampaging horde of creationists that can make it stick. (bold for emphasis) I guess everybody needs their political demons. So we can all unite against the Jews/Blacks/Creationists/Abortionists/Women/etc or whatever agenda you're subscribing to. Hey, tolerance is only for the jews and the niggers. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
In 2002, proponents of intelligent design asked the Ohio Board of Education to adopt intelligent design as part of its standard biology curriculum, in line with the guidelines of the Edwards v. Aguillard holding. In December 2002, the Board adopted a proposal that permitted, but did not require, the teaching of intelligent design. In 2004 Kansas Board of Education elections gave religious conservatives a majority and, influenced by the Discovery Institute, they arranged the Kansas evolution hearings. On August 9, 2005, the Kansas State Board of Education drafted new "science standards that require critical analysis of evolution – including scientific evidence refuting the theory,"[16] which opponents analysed as effectively stating that intelligent design should be taught.[17] The new standards also provide a definition of science that does not preclude supernatural explanations, and were approved by a 6-4 vote on November 8, 2005 – the same day, interestingly, on which the Dover school board members were voted out (see above). So yes, though they were overturned, the point is this was being taught in a classroom, hotshot. There is no raving christian right trying to get things taught in a classroom, except that every few years, Georgia, Kansas and Illinois have to have a serious debate about where God belongs in classrooms. And they have, on several occasions, decided to teach ID as a substitute to science. So there ARE people pushing this through in certain parts of the country. You want to know -WHY- they can't make it stick? Because there are people educated on the subject and taking it on headfirst when it rears its ugly head. People who don't confuse Creation Science with creationism, for instance, sir. You're not needed here. All you've done is basically say "NO ONE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS" and dig your head in the sand. There's nowhere I can't reach. John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
The Soviets taught their own brand of evolution to their children. It involved the evolution of giraffe's necks stretching together in socialist solidarity. It was based on pure scientific theory, not matter how much they twisted it for political ends. Didn't make it anymore ludicrous then I already made it sound.
(edit) Oh wait, it will be upheld in any future case. That's the real end of the story. How ya doing, buddy?
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Yes, because if we all stop paying attention to it and laugh it off, saying education and science are unnecessary things to defend THAT'S the best way to do it. Because complacency, that's the best answer!
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