Why not to kill yourself

Damn 99%, ruining it for the rest of us.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Bogart was in the 1%, you fucking communist.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Gonzo probably took enough LSD to "feed" a few hundred communes.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Frank

Bottom line? This isn't about drugs, so GTFO.

No, of course it isn't. It's not about drugs in the same way that the NRA argues that guns don't kill people. They say it's people that kill people. Maybe this is true, but the guns aren't fucking helping. [/Izzard]

So maybe, just maybe, the presence of the drugs in this equation isn't exactly doing him much benefit. He thought he was amazing while on acid, but compared to that experience, now he feels he's nothing. Obviously, the potential to be awesome was in there and the acid brought it out, but the schnook is too wrapped up in his own drama to realize this. So, yes, the drug argument has some relevance; instead of relying upon a crutch and whining when life isn't perfect, he should think about what elements were brought out by the acid, then maybe try to capture some of that while sober.

I'm not saying that will be simple, but it's worth an earnest, valid attempt before resorting to suicide.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Fuck, a valid attempt before resorting to suicide would be to get on all kinds of drugs. That would be simple, and while an argument on his drug use may have relevance, the simple statement of "drugs r bad, ur stoopid" does not. Continuing with a line of rhetoric that merely revolves around that statement does nothing for Ego, or his lack thereof.

Now, if he had gone and shut me down like you just did I wouldn't have a problem.

Edit: Pun intended. Yeah, shoot me.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Yeah, I agree that it's far too late for the "drugs are bad, mmmkay?" approach.

I don't endore the rampant use of many drugs as a solution to Ego's problems, only because each experiment will inevitably lead back to the crash and he'll be in the same boat he's in right now, only the feeling of inferiority will likely be reinforced.

All in all, losing the girlfriend is enough of a catalyst to make anyone feel pretty low, and I suspect that's really the crux of his problem. But the drug use is distorting his vision and his ability to perceive the problems for what they are. That he's had a comparitive high to which he holds himself as the standard for excellence, he's established goals that are unattainable without the drugs. On one hand, that awesome person was in there all along, so the acid was merely an enabler. On the other hand, that person might be a gross exaggeration and an unhealthy ideal. None of us can make that call.

Honestly, a path of moderation is probably the best. Avoiding LSD would be smart, but partaking in marijuana now and then, to relax and feel better about things, that might actually bring him out of his funk. Drugs aren't the answer, but neither is total abstinence and self-flagellation. We're talking about building some esteem, here, and anything that helps is worth consideration.

FELIPE NO

This thread has made me realize that we humor confused children far too much.
Thinking back to my own angst periods, I think I would have loved nothing more than a firm male figure telling me to shut the fuck up.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

The better question is "why kill yourself?" if you ask me.Think about it, killing yourself means putting an end to the finite life you have. Unless the Buddhists are right, and reincarnation is the way of the universe, this is the only time you will ever get to spend on Earth. If the Christians are right, you get to spend all eternity in an afterlife, but that's not the same as being here on Earth. You might even end up in the bad place, because suicide is a mortal sin according to Christian dogma.

While you are here there are always possibilities, things you can do and things you can experience. To kill yourself is to put an end to all those possibilities. Don't do it. You've got all the time in the world to be dead. You've only got a few decades (barring accidents) to be alive. Even if what you choose to do with your life is to take every kind of drug, that's something that only the living can do.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

1st of all , how old are you? Life doesn't end at the end of a relationship. Stop being an emo kid. Self Loathing will get you no where fast. Trust been there and I got the same advise I just told you. Stop being Emo.

If you are in another country... Think of it. You get an opportunity that most people don't ever dream of getting. Most dream of getting of this country and seeing the world. You are doing that. There you got 1 up over half of the world population.

So what if you're fat? Do something about it. Workout, diet, stick to it and stop feeling sorry for yourself.

Stop being self-centered... killing yourself.. Geez, think of the people that would suffer from you dying. I had a friend that kill himself and I felt at fault for it for years. Nearly killed myself for it b/c I was so guilt ridden for not noticing earlier. Just because you die, it doesn't mean that people are gonna go "So it goes."(If anyone get that reference, awesome) You might think that people give a rats ass but trust me. People do, even though they might not show it.

Also, if you are Buddhist, they look frown upon suicide from my understanding.

Denicalis> Much props for saying what you said. Babying self pity gets you nowhere. When I was in my emo stage, nothing got more out of it more then someone telling me to "grow the fuck up. and to get over myself"

And if you wanna try a drug.. Fuck Acid. Try Xstacy! At least you'll be happy for once in your life and not give a rats ass. At least you won't be emo, right?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Furby

Also, if you are Buddhist, they look frown upon suicide from my understanding.

Of course. The point I was trying to illustrate is that you probably don't get a second shot at life. This is not a rehearsal. If reincarnation really does exist, I would expect someone who killed themselves to not get a great deal in their next life.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by surasshu

Oxymora are intentional, they're a rhetorical tool. I think people just like to use the word "oxymoron" because it's such a great scrabble word. Which it is. But "Death is absolute and you will regret it" isn't an oxymoron no matter how you look at it. It could be a contradiction if death precludes regret (or regret precludes death). But you don't know that, either.

Oh shut up. Get off your high horse and laugh at language once in a while.

I look at it this way: a girl just told me that she doesn't like me an hour ago. I've had her on my mind for a while, and now I'm sad. Am I going to kill myself over it? God no. If not her, someone else, and I'm definitely not going to start altering my personality (or considering such) just to please someone else. Killing IS absolute, and I simply cannot ever see any reason why I would do this, even in a partial state of depression.

Deni's treatment is right on: a good old fashioned slap in the face, which is what most of these advice questions need.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Smelnick

*sigh* Obviously I'm not gonna go running around saying "drugs are bad, they ruin your life" but if you're doing drugs for the wrong reason, then it can get bad. Obviously you were smart about your use of drugs. Thus it didn't do anything shitty to your life.

I think it's more about who you do drugs with than what you do. That is to say, with the exception of the highly addictive drugs like crack, heroin, and their like.

I've met cool druggies before. They all seemed like pretty upstanding types, fun to joke around with and hang out. They mostly smoked pot, some dropped acid or took shrooms, but they didn't seem to let it affect their lives.
Then I met a few druggies at the bar and it was pretty dismal. Sure, most of them were "artists" so they have an excuse for being vagrants who can't do an ounce of real work, right? No but seriously, they were borderline pathetic. This one guy was wearing a raggy t-shirt he must have gotten from a thrift shop 7 years ago, with a giant wool thing covering his unkempt hair (that looked full of dandruff).

But honestly, it all depends on who you get high with and why you get high. Some people do it to enhance their life, while others do it to try and fill a void in their life.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Alright, ladies... Let's keep this on topic and try not to let your hard-on for Scrabble concoctions and each other ruin a semi well-meaning advice thread go to shit. Karasu and Elixir, you guys can get out now. If I see you in here without sound advice for the boy, I boot you both off this forum; end of story.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

All I gotta say is this....

It's a girl - she dumped you, so fuck her. She's not worth a fuck. You had the willpower to lose weight and get in shape, so apply that same willpower to learn French and get on some decent looking French hoes.

The best way to forget old pussy is new pussy. You're 18 - you got a lot of living to do. If you honestly think that dumb bitch was the best thing that ever happened to you, take solace in the fact that YOU ARE WRONG.

In short: Get a new bitch. Fuck the shit out of her. Repeat until you find one you're comfortable fucking on a regular basis until death or divorce.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Night Phoenix

All I gotta say is this....

It's a girl - she dumped you, so fuck her. She's not worth a fuck. You had the willpower to lose weight and get in shape, so apply that same willpower to learn French and get on some decent looking French hoes.

The best way to forget old pussy is new pussy. You're 18 - you got a lot of living to do. If you honestly think that dumb bitch was the best thing that ever happened to you, take solace in the fact that YOU ARE WRONG.

In short: Get a new bitch. Fuck the shit out of her. Repeat until you find one you're comfortable fucking on a regular basis until death or divorce.

I can't possibly agree with NP more. Though, I believe our young intrepid hero has already stated he plans to do just this.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Night Phoenix

All I gotta say is this....

It's a girl - she dumped you, so fuck her. She's not worth a fuck. You had the willpower to lose weight and get in shape, so apply that same willpower to learn French and get on some decent looking French hoes.

The best way to forget old pussy is new pussy. You're 18 - you got a lot of living to do. If you honestly think that dumb bitch was the best thing that ever happened to you, take solace in the fact that YOU ARE WRONG.

In short: Get a new bitch. Fuck the shit out of her. Repeat until you find one you're comfortable fucking on a regular basis until death or divorce.

haha, oh wow, there's totally some new song material in there. xD

Jam it back in, in the dark.

haha alright, after Denicalis' ass kicking and Night Phoenix's philosophy, I've decided to stop being a bitch. I realized that if theres ONE thing to live for, it's jerking off. I can't do that in hell. Things better than jerking off? well Night Phoenix explained that to me, but jerking off will do just fine.

btw, Denicalis, wtf does your name mean? I'm only curious because I love you for talking the most sense in this post. Like...your a fucking dick. An absolute cockhole. But your smart and contribute more than a lot of people, making it acceptable.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by sUperEgo

...jerking off will do just fine.

You do what you gotta do to grieve, player. However, If a year down the line you're still doing the same thing then I think it'd be safe to say that you have a problem; and not one solved by lubricants and/or homosexuality. <__<

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by sUperEgo

btw, Denicalis, wtf does your name mean?

He's (North) American, honey. Our names don't mean shit.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by sUperEgo

btw, Denicalis, wtf does your name mean?

It's latin. It has several translations, but the one I like is "purification through fire/trial."

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by sUperEgo

btw, Denicalis...your a fucking dick. An absolute cockhole. But your smart and contribute more than a lot of people, making it acceptable.

I'm sorry, but this made me laugh, because it is strangely true. also, the fact that it means purification through fire, and the fact that he always tells me to die in a fire makes perfect sense.

Good job superego for dealing with this maturely. Remember, nothing is so horrible that you can't just suck it up and keep going.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Man, all LSD does is show you to yourself. That's why your first trip was so nasty, because you were low on the food chain and knew it and, for the first time, you got to examine the causes in great detail. You figured out what you had to do, saw that it had to be done, so you went out and started being the person you wanted to be.

So you're this awesome new person, who is really just the same old person with more confidence, and suddenly this chick, whom you probably discovered in a fit of acid frenzy to be bad for you, decides that you're the cat's meow all of a sudden, and away you go back down the spiral into Otaku Territory.

Running the gauntlet of one's inner demons (Denicalis whut?) is something everyone should do at least once. Now that you've taken that first step, though, you should look at making those changes last. I hold LSD sacred because of this potential that it has to show the user to a deeper side of reality and a deeper side of self. However, if you keep going back to the well, my friend, eventually it will run dry.

If you want that intimate look into your own psyche that you got from LSD, I suggest you learn to meditate and start doing it somewhat regularly. If you can get into the habit of re-examining yourself often, you'll stand a much better chance of making the changes that you need to make in order to live the way you want.

And yeah, no chick is worth your life, bro. I think it's dumb as hell to jump into a new relationship until you're comfortably over the previous one, but that's just my opinion, and nobody ever said you had to be in a relationship to get laid!

(Well, some people say that, but they are the ones that you don't try to have sex with. :P)

FELIPE NO

Well my confidence was boosted today. I went to my first class here in France, and I met this Mexican-French girl. We talked for like 10 minutes and she left to go take this test thing we were waiting for (to evaluate us). When she got out, she pulled me to side, took out this notepad, wrote down her number, and gave it me. I don't think it necessarily means she likes me, maybe she just wants me to hang out with her and her friends or something, but it was a nice confidence boost.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?