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Originally Posted by Tails

I like how the assault rifle isn't garbage anymore. Starting off with the Battle Rifle is kinda ugh in some multi games, but at least the AR packs a punch now.

Hmm I have to agree. But it could be the fact that it's a little harder to actually score headshots with any gun. Still it doesn't stop it from being a good mid to long range weapon.
Oh yeah, thanks for the crazy weapon assists back there .

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Tails

First few missions are short. The rest are much, much longer. Campaign is about 12-13 hours overall. I like how the assault rifle isn't garbage anymore. Starting off with the Battle Rifle is kinda ugh in some multi games, but at least the AR packs a punch now.

I don't believe that. You're saying that the last 4 levels are a total of 9+ hours, while the first 5 levels are only 3 hours? I don't believe that for a second. I've been looking around the internet and the consensus seems to be people are beating the game around 6-7 hours on Heroic, and a little longer on Legendary. Better than 4 1/2 to 5 hours, but still way too short. Expansion packs are longer than that. I was expecting a game that I couldn't bang out in a day, around 15 hours, maybe 10 hours being the absolute minimum.

I think Bungie just got lazy, and decided to focus too much on the multiplayer, leaving people who bought the game for a great single player campaign(Like me) with a shorter than average FPS. Granted it might be extremely fun, I don't know yet, but it's way too short. I'm disappointed and I haven't even touch the game yet. Maybe I'm spoiled by 60 hour RPGs.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Kairyu

Hmm I have to agree. But it could be the fact that it's a little harder to actually score headshots with any gun. Still it doesn't stop it from being a good mid to long range weapon.
Oh yeah, thanks for the crazy weapon assists back there .

Dude, no PROBLEM. Forge was awesome. Spawning weapons was really fun.

Also, who buys a console FPS for the story, hell, Gears was much shorter than Halo has ever been (Gears' story can be beaten in insanely short time, 5-6 hours tops, iirc.), and that was well received. If you're really looking for 60 hours, go play and RPG, or Dynasty Warriors: Gundam, which took me 60+ hours to beat. The multiplayer is what keeps people playing an FPS for years, not the story. People aren't playing Unreal Tournament, Quake, and Doom years later because of the single player experience. The SP is more like a bonus in this case, the MP is what counts in the long run.

Now, if this were Metroid, I'd be singing a different tune. A series without MP should have a story that you can dive into for hours and hours at a time. This isn't to say the story mode in Halo 3 isn't worth it. It's short, but the replay value is great if you have a huge friends list and different people to play with. I've played with two groups so far, and the experience has been different each time. Tons of fun.

FELIPE NO

I want to play this single player game for more than 6 hours, dude. Yes, Gears of Wars was too short, but at least it was a unique game, it did something different than other shooters, so I can understand the accolades. Halo 3 is more of the same though, it's already been done in Halo 1 and Halo 2, and countless others similar to it. At the very least, one would think, with all the endless hype and quotes like "the most anticipated game ever made"(which I definitely don't agree with), it would be at least as long as the average FPS, but should be longer. Yet Halo 3 is shorter than the average FPS. And from what I've read, it seem that the campaign is not even as good as Halo 1 was. That's bullshit.

And fuck the Multiplayer, the whole Halo hype started from Halo 1 having a great single player campaign mode. Many play it for only for online multiplayer now, but a lot still play for the Single player. Single Player is not a "Bonus". That's a dumb statement. I'm not even into the Multiplayer of Halo. I recently played though Halo 2 campaign again, and I haven't played the online game since a month or 2 after I got the game when it launched. It got boring to me pretty quickly, unfortunately. Let's put it this way, if Halo 3 was multiplayer only, I wouldn't even put a thought into buying this game.

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Originally Posted by Enter User Name

I don't believe that. You're saying that the last 4 levels are a total of 9+ hours, while the first 5 levels are only 3 hours? I don't believe that for a second. I've been looking around the internet and the consensus seems to be people are beating the game around 6-7 hours on Heroic, and a little longer on Legendary. Better than 4 1/2 to 5 hours, but still way too short. Expansion packs are longer than that. I was expecting a game that I couldn't bang out in a day, around 15 hours, maybe 10 hours being the absolute minimum.

I think Bungie just got lazy, and decided to focus too much on the multiplayer, leaving people who bought the game for a great single player campaign(Like me) with a shorter than average FPS. Granted it might be extremely fun, I don't know yet, but it's way too short. I'm disappointed and I haven't even touch the game yet. Maybe I'm spoiled by 60 hour RPGs.

J.F. Christ! Where the fuck did you learn to do Math?!

he said about 12-13 hours total.

Where in the fuck did you pull 60 hours from!?

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Originally Posted by Enter User Name

I'm not even into the Multiplayer of Halo.

Then don't buy it.
Stop crying.
Leave the thread.

Problem solved. If you spend 60 dollars just for the campaign alone, you'll be wasting your money. The real fun is playing campaign with friends you know and then hoping online to test your skills. That's the only way to do it.

I'm kinda sad because I've been getting invites ALL DAY from a good 40 or so people on my list. Now that we're done campaign I can't wait to get together with all the guys I've met on live and on GFF and tear shit up in Big Team games.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Spending 60 dollars for just the campaign alone is not a waste of money. I enjoyed it slightly more than Gears of War, even.

And fuck the hype, I didn't buy into any of it and I was impressed. Get a mind of your own.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

so basically me, mo0, skills, and tails just completed the campaign from start to finish on legendary in 7 hours. Yes, 7 hours as with 4 players it drastically reduces the difficulty of a campaign that was designed with only one or two players in mind.

If you play through the game by yourself like it was intended for; it will definitely clock in at 12-13 hours. We passed on doing alot of things like watching cutscenes, using tactics, and absorbing all th atmosphere and environment the game has to offer.

Basically, 4 player co-op adds a second layer to the already great SP game and is basically revolutionary in how it is implemented. Halo 3 takes a SP campaign and basically provides you with two enjoyable yet entirely different ways to play it.

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On a side note

I'm actually impressed that Bungee studios took a lot from Halo : Fall of Reach and placed it into the game

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I've decided to make a few comments after quietly reading over this thread.

By now, all of you know that Halo 3 has been unanimously accepted as the true successor to the game that changed the world, Halo. Scoring almost flawless reviews across the board, and being acknowledged by diehard fans of the series and first-time FPS players alike, the game has already become a modern classic.

As for myself, being able to report -- with an unbiased candor -- that the game has surpassed my own impossible expectations, I can finally breathe a sigh of relief. Being able to call it game of the decade is still a bit surreal, even for me. Moreover, if you wish to see my in-depth review, please visit the Halo forum of EvilAvatar.com, as I presently moderate it.

That being said, here's the two key points I wanted to make:

1. This thread reeks of sheer animosity and spite, directed in disbelief as an act of unfounded desperation. Halo 3 actually living up to the hype seems to have pushed many of you over the edge. Without even willing to play the game before making ill, preconceived judgments, you've all revealed yourselves to be nothing other than a small, minority of irrelevant cry babies. Enjoy your Halo ass fucking.

2. Megalith is a hypocritical failure, and troll. After tirelessly bashing the Halo series, due to his own personal dislikes with its sequel, he is now incapable of giving a positive impression of the next game. This is mainly due to the fear of shooting himself in the foot, and exposing the fact that he is incapable of forming a conclusive opinion regarding anything. After tireless flip-flopping and an endless stream of incoherent insults, he is now incapable of discussing Halo in a way that can be viewed as reasonable or rational, even by the most feverish oh Halo haters.

He will also not attempt to refute this point, as: A) It's true, and B) His argumentative abilities hold the mental capacity of a donut. But you all know this already.

With that being said, I would like to point out that I've honestly had a blast playing Halo 3 with the regulars of #xblive, and truly appreciate the fact that some users of Gamingforce are willing to set their personal biases aside, giving the series the benefit of the doubt. It's fairly obvious that we have some new Halo fans in town.

Also, Tube, your Halo 3 review was extremely accurate, well written, and unbiased. I appreciate your impressions.

That is all I have to say.

Zeal

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I'm doing 2 player co-op and we're about 5 hours in, and so far, I'm loving the shit out of this game. I do need to get better at slayer and multiplayer :P

on a lighter note:

Not everyone's happy with Halo 3... LOL

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MEGA64 is great.

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FELIPE NO

I'd like to hop on LIVE for some Co-op or multiplayer, but being a complete newb to FPS and Halo, as well as LIVE itself, not sure if there would be people willing to invite me...

I played a bit of the campaign and got a feel for it. It IS fun, but I also sucked badly with getting killed alot.

Fooled around with Forge alot, as well as the Save Films feature. Both of them are awesome.

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Originally Posted by Kairi Li

I'd like to hop on LIVE for some Co-op or multiplayer, but being a complete newb to FPS and Halo, as well as LIVE itself, not sure if there would be people willing to invite me...

I played a bit of the campaign and got a feel for it. It IS fun, but I also sucked badly with getting killed alot.

Fooled around with Forge alot, as well as the Save Films feature. Both of them are awesome.

Here is a list of the GFFers with a 360. Nearly all of us will be on Halo 3 and open to play with anyone. Just toss out friend invites to whoever your interested in playing online co-op or MP games with and your pretty much set.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Slash

J.F. Christ! Where the fuck did you learn to do Math?!

he said about 12-13 hours total.

Where in the fuck did you pull 60 hours from!?

Probably from the fact that he said it seems short compared to other games that he plays that require 60 hours to complete. That means not Halo.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Iwata

Here is a list of the GFFers with a 360.

Not all GFFers. I'm not in that list and have me a 360, and as of later today will have a copy of Halo 3 (my Live tag is Omagnus).

Another list of people can be found here - "Gamingforce Members Leaderboard" - A Custom GamerScore Leaderboard :: MyGamerCard.net

Also, when the fuck did games less than 40 hours long suddenly become rubbish or not worth the money? BioShock wasn't that long and has no multiplayer component but I do not regret spending my money on it at all. I'm curious, to the people complaining about single player game lengths, do you only ever go and see a film at the cinema if it's at least 3 hours long? If anything falls short of that do you piss and moan about being ripped off then? Colour me curious.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Not to forget that the people complaining about the length here are probably all avid fans, who've breezed through Halo 1 and 2 countless times and spent days in the multiplayer section of those games.
So, I'm not that surprised if "hardcore gamers" of that sort manage to romp through a single player campaign in no time on a very high difficulty.
But I guess when I pick up Halo 3 (I've yet to find me copies of 1 and 2, never played them before...), I'll take a wee bit longer.
And I GUESS I'll be buying it for the single player campaign. But I'm new to XBox, so I just might jump into multiplayer... Still, up to know I've bought pretty much every single game I own - bar some Nintendo party games - for the single player.

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I hate Virgin and I hate Royal Mail I should get my copy tomorrow providing the Postman hasn't nicked it.

EDIT: And as I typed that the Postman came expect pics later.

I was speaking idiomatically.

A quick note, many of the themes from Halo 1 are rehashed in more choral-intensive versions (I've heard Brothers in Arms and some others) and some themes straight off Halo 2 are also present (Ghosts of Reach, Unforgotten, pretty much all the music in the title screen, Mombasa Suite, Delta Halo Suite, etc.) I know music obviously isn't the focus but it's a little disheartening to not have a fresh, new tune stuck in my head like the first two did, and i'm a little in halfway through the game.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I am amazed that someone finally mentioned how dissapointing the score is. The music was the only saving grace of the sequel, yet they managed to ruin it for the third. Bungie's concept of a new score is the subtraction of random instruments and beats, then adding some chanting from old sound banks.

I just sat there and laughed when Marty O'Donnell's name showed up in the credits. The actual person who did the music was probably some hack from Sumthing Else. I don't even see the point of a score release.

FELIPE NO

First time into this thread.
I did join up in a game though with a couple of GFF people. Before that I was in co-op on the campaign with Kairyu. The slayer matches with the rest of the others was a lot of fun also. Still focusing on finishing the game on normal in co-op, and we're looking to find some others to help complete it on legendary.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Push to talk is still the stupidest thing EVER in an FPS. I love the mute functions but fucking COME ON, ugh.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The push to talk feature in all games should just be a feature. Because people can always mute so what's the point in making P2Talk a standard?

@Megalith
I'm on chapter 7 and I thingk I've only heard one song that wasn't centered around the Halo theme... bore. Oh well, I suppose one only plays the game once or twice anyway.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Zeal

Propped.

Played the game a bit more today. It's good, but it hasn't really impressed me with anything new, yet. Hopefully that'll change once I get the game and give it a good play through.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I can say that I'm really impressed with the netcode this time around. Four player co-op matches exhibit virtually no lag (unless you're hosting from a Wii) and multiplayer lag is hardly noticeable.

This game will be played for years based on co-op alone.

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Originally Posted by Slayer X

The push to talk feature in all games should just be a feature. Because people can always mute so what's the point in making P2Talk a standard?

Precisely. With all the quick mute features, the ability to automatically mute people on the other team BY DEFAULT, and so forth, push to talk is a major inconvenience that only distracts the player and can end up costing teams shit if a player forgets about it.

How ya doing, buddy?