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Old Jun 26, 2007, 02:33 AM Local time: Jun 26, 2007, 02:33 AM #1476 of 3609
If Benoit ended up murdering then there must be some logical reason for it.
There is never a logical reason to commit a double murder, especially of that seven year old boy. He did nothing to deserve that except get caught up in the stormy relationship of his parents.

Benoit took a hiatus from wrestling a while back to try and patch things up with his family. Obviously, this must not have worked. Wife decides she wants to leave him, and informs him of much that weekend. He becomes entranced in a bestial rage, kills his wife and then decides that his son has to go too because you know "I love them too much, and if they can't be with me then nobody deserves them!"

He awakens from his rage, realizes what he's done and promptly ends his own life.

Wife will probably end up strangled, son will end up suffocated (pillow over mouth). He'll have probably overdosed on prescribed pain medication.

He may have been a badass wrestler, but fuck if I ever want to see his ass in a Hall of Fame or be talked about fondly again. Doing what he did to his family just shits on the reputation of the industry, the people that trained him, and the fans who loved to watch his matches. Even had he not taken his life, he still would have had to face a double capital murder charge. Two consecutive life sentences or death row. By going out this way though, he's made to look like he needs to be mourned, and I don't believe so.

I feel bad for the families, and hope his wife and son rest in peace.

As for Benoit himself, I hope Eddie Guerrero rips him a new one.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 02:59 AM #1477 of 3609
Unfortunately, what you said Kos does make sense.

I am hoping against hope that it is NOT the case, and Benoit did NOT actually do this.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 26, 2007, 03:11 AM #1478 of 3609
Woman: Ha, they put you ECW? That's it...I don't know you anymore.
Benoit: Urge to kill...Rising...

I didn't know about the family patching leave...I thought it was for surgery.

Unless it was the wife who killed Chris and the son, then herself (and from what I remember of Woman, I wouldn't be horribly surprised), that sounds like a likely scenario. I'll always be a fan of the guy and his suicide headbutts and stuff, but there is a bit of a personal conflict if the murder bit turns out to be real (which it apparently was). But then again, you never know the rest of the circumstances. In any case, my ECW theory is just as good as any until some real facts come out.

Maybe...Kevin Sullivan, Benoit's sworn enemy has a role? (he took Woman away from him originally).

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 03:28 AM #1479 of 3609
Goldfish, I had that suspicision too. I mean, I would never want to point fingers on something like this, but that thought DID cross my mind. Also, I thought Benoit was off for that time because of surgery, but also burn out. Of course, it COULD be a combination of both.

I guess is, IF this were to be true, what REALLY makes it hard is thinking about him in his tribute match with Bret, crying when Eddie died, his tribute match with Eddie, and so forth. I can only imagine guys like Malenko, Rey, and Chavo, who were even closer to him, how they must be feeling.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 03:30 AM #1480 of 3609
From what I remember, he was an awesome wrestler. It is bad enough to hear that he died, but even worse to hear that he might have even killed his wife and child.

I don't think he did it. And if I'm wrong, so be it. Kostaki's theory makes a lot of sense, but I'm hoping he's wrong (No offense, Kostaki.).

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 03:44 AM Local time: Jun 26, 2007, 03:44 AM #1481 of 3609
Personally, I'd rather be completely fooled into thinking this actually never happened and it was totally a work. I wouldn't be mad at all.

Most of my theory comes from what is known currently about the crime.

- No shots were fired, no breaking and entering done
- Wife killed first in study/living/office area
- Son killed second in a bedroom
- Chris died last in a weight room
- Original hiatus was for her neck surgery, but also to patch things up
- He forfeited a chance to become ECW Champion (title would have been his)
- His house is gated and guarded by two rather large dogs

What I put together only seems likely because he gave up the ECW title, as he would have won it, to go home for something that he obviously prioritized far and beyond over his own career. It had to be a mega serious issue to do that. Everything else I concluded just from the available information now.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 03:55 AM #1482 of 3609
It's sadly ironic that of the 'three big deaths', each men would have (reportedly) been scheduled to win a title (Owen, Eddie and Benoit).

I have to agree though. I wish it were a work as well. Be ultra pissed at the WWE and never watch it again, but at least breathe a sigh of relief.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 04:07 AM Local time: Jun 25, 2007, 11:07 PM #1483 of 3609
Just horrible news to hear.

This whole "McMahon death" angle was just executed at the wrong time, with the untimely deaths of Sherri and Benoit.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 04:08 AM #1484 of 3609
In all objective fairness, Kostaki, what are your sources for that information?

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 04:22 AM Local time: Jun 26, 2007, 04:22 AM #1485 of 3609
Mostly various news sources, Associated Press and the like. Some reports have more information than others. A few of the reports are from WWE.com as well, which is why I said that I would like this to be a work. At the same time though, I'm in Corpus Christi and I can confirm they basically told the entire place to go home before the show even started. I don't think they'd actually choose to lose an entire televised show gate like this unless there was some foundation to the news being posted on WWE.com.

I'm certainly not basing theories on mere speculation.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 04:41 AM #1486 of 3609
I can only imagine what would happen if this WAS a work. Aside from alienating many of it's fans and losing whatever respect that was left, I'd wonder what would happen with various news sites and so forth who have been covering this.

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Benoit Kills Family Over 3 Days...
Sources in the Fayette County Police Department are now working under the theory that Chris Benoit killed Nancy on Saturday, son Daniel on Sunday, and then killed himself earlier today.

Benoit was found dead in his weight room. Nancy was found dead in the living room. Daniel was found dead in his bedroom, according to an unnamed source in the department.

Lt. Tommy Pope told ABC News "the instruments of death were located on the scene," but didn't specify what those were or where they were found. Pope said the department was not actively searching for any suspects outside the house.


I really don't know how Benoit can literally go nuts for basically two or three days. Like, what was his mindset to go for three full days? Also, how DO they know the order?

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 06:27 AM #1487 of 3609
All I can say is that, if it's true that he in-fact killed is wife and child, my opinion of him as an in-ring performer won't change. However, my opinion of him as a man and a human being will obviously change dramatically. Regardless of the circumstances or reasoning, there is no cause to resort to something like this. It's completely a cowardly, desperate and downright pitiful out. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions until all the details have been put forth, but it's not sounding very good at all, no matter which way the wind blows on this one.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 06:53 AM #1488 of 3609
Originally Posted by PWInsider.net
The Chris Benoit tragedy has been picked up by nearly every major media source in the United States and Canada, so expect the story to become widely reported in the next several days. MSNBC, CNN, ESPN and Sports Illustrated have all run major headline stories on the tragedy.

World Wrestling Entertainment posted a long article on their website early Tuesday morning, noting that the company's Richard Hering contacted local authorities in Georgia asking them to check on the Benoit family following several "curious" text messages Benoit sent to friends who worked for the company. When authorities came to the Benoits' home, they found the bodies of Benoit, his wife Nancy and seven year old son Daniel in different areas of the home.

"The details, when they come out," Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told the local media during a press conference late Monday evening, "are going to prove a little bizarre."

The press conference noted that Fayetteville, Georgia authorities’ official findings was that a double murder-suicide from within the home took place. The authorities are currently going on the theory that Benoit murdered his wife and son over the course of the weekend, before taking his own life. There will be autopsies performed later today with authorities hoping the results will confirm their suspicions. It will take several weeks for toxicology reports to be returned.

World Wrestling Entertainment initially ran a three hour Benoit retrospective in "celebration" of the Benoit family. Shortly after the tribute completed airing, more details of the nature of the family's death came to light. WWE's website removed tribute videos to Benoit, replacing them with in-ring video footage and the aforementioned straight news story on the tragedy.

The Corpus Christie Caller-Times featured an article on WWE's decision to cancel last night's Raw taping and the reaction of fans as they were informed 30 minutes prior to the event at this link.

I'd rather all this speculation drop and have actual proof of what went down. What's all this is this bizzaro world? Who tells the press the details will be bizzare. I do agree with bishop though, my opinion of the man as an in-ring performer won't change. He was the man, hands down. But if he did go on a murdering rampage on his own home, well I just don't know what to think.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 07:31 AM #1489 of 3609
My only speculation is that...he probably caught his wife cheating and then he flipped.. There is no one left to carry on his lineage. It had to be something serious that would put him over the edge.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 08:25 AM Local time: Jun 26, 2007, 08:25 AM #1490 of 3609
Sources in the Fayette County Police Department are now working under the theory that Chris Benoit killed Nancy on Saturday, son Daniel on Sunday, and then killed himself earlier today.

I really don't know how Benoit can literally go nuts for basically two or three days. Like, what was his mindset to go for three full days? Also, how DO they know the order?
It doesn't take too much more than a good look at the crime scene to establish that.

They establish that no shots were fired and there's no signs of any illegal entry into the household. They establish the time of death on all three corpses, and note the order of death from that. His wife died first, then his son, then Chris himself. Looking at the above fact, with Chris the last to die, it becomes easy to conclude that it was a double murder-suicide.

There aren't too many other possibilities once extenuating circumstances surrounding the area and the time of death is established for all three bodies.

Method/Motive is really all that remains.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 09:05 AM #1491 of 3609
I'm just having a hard time believing this. First finding out the death of Benoit and his family yesterday was bad enough. Now I wake up and find out that he might've murdered them? This is just horrible. Guess we've gotta wait to hear what the autopsy says.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jun 26, 2007, 10:01 AM #1492 of 3609
How do they establish a time of death though is my question.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 10:31 AM Local time: Jun 26, 2007, 10:31 AM #1493 of 3609
I'm not too familiar with how forensics works, but I'm sure it has to do with the state the body is found in. How much rigor mortis (no pun intended) has set in, probably a bunch of other underlying scientific factors. I wouldn't mind taking a forensics class eventually.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 26, 2007, 11:21 AM #1494 of 3609
ANd some new information:

WWE's VP of Government Relations Richard Hering was then made aware of several curious text messages sent by Benoit to WWE employees and wrestlers on Sunday morning. WrestleView.com has spoken with at least one strong source about this situation stating that Benoit's text messages almost had a "thank you and goodbye" theme to them causing many to be alarmed and concerned. As a result, Hering contacted Fayette County sheriffs on Monday and requested that they check out the Benoit residence when he was not getting back to WWE officials.

The 'thank you and good-bye' part is creepy.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 11:33 AM #1495 of 3609
How do they establish a time of death though is my question.
My understanding is that there are organisms that begin to grow in a body almost immediately upon death. Scientists can determine the age of these bacteria, and thus get the time of death. That's why places like the University of Tennessee set up body farms with corpses donated to science; they study decomposition so they can better calculate time of death.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 11:42 AM #1496 of 3609
This is a fucking lovely thing to wake up to.

Last night I had to hold back tears over the loss of one of my favorites, only to be woken up and angered by the fact that he may have done himself and his family in? Goddamn, man. As morbid as it sounds, I kind of hope his wife did the thing... I prefer thinking fondly of Benoit.

EDIT: TMZ got some new leads on all this:

TMZ has learned more about the deaths of WWE wrestling superstar Chris Benoit, his wife and son -- and the information is extremely disturbing.

Several Atlanta-based law enforcement sources have told TMZ Benoit may have strangled his wife on Saturday, then smothered his son in his bed a day later. Investigators refuse to officially comment, pending final confirmation by the coroner on the cause and time of the deaths.

One source told TMZ that Benoit was texting friends during Sunday's WWE "Vengeance" Pay-Per-View program -- possibly watching the show with his son, who may have been alive at the time.

According to sources, Benoit then hanged himself Monday in a weight room inside the family home.

A police investigation is ongoing.


Another interesting thing is that WWE is removing all merchandise regarding Benoit from their site, even going so far as to say that the WMXX main event was HHH vs. HBK for the title, completely omitting Benoit.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 11:49 AM #1497 of 3609
This came from 4W-wrestling, and makes it all that much creepier:

TMZ has learned more about the deaths of WWE wrestling superstar Chris Benoit, his wife and son -- and the information is extremely disturbing.

Several Atlanta-based law enforcement sources have told TMZ Benoit may have strangled his wife on Saturday, then smothered his son in his bed a day later. Investigators refuse to officially comment, pending final confirmation by the coroner on the cause and time of the deaths.

One source told TMZ that Benoit was texting friends during Sunday's WWE "Vengeance" Pay-Per-View program -- possibly watching the show with his son, who may have been alive at the time.

According to sources, Benoit then hanged himself Monday in a weight room inside the family home.

I am seriously trying to imagine Benoit, just calmly sitting there with his son, watching the PPV (if that happened). I am trying to imagine what his son was thinking, or if he knew anything that was going on. I mean, to have his son come down for breakfast and spend the entire day with him. I am trying to imagne what was going through Benoit's mind at that point in time. It wasn't a few minutes, or a few hours, but an ENTIRE DAY. Was he thinking through his options? DId he just watch the PPV, kind of like to have that one last day of life doing what he wanted to do (and watching what he loved to watch), before doing what he did afterwards? Very freaky and sad stuff.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 12:48 PM Local time: Jun 26, 2007, 12:48 PM #1498 of 3609
Well at least you can all be consoled by the fact that this was ultimately a domestic incident, which is the number one cause of murder in the US. So it's not like he was a crazy raving lunatic. It'd be far more disturbing if he'd, for instance, taken a shotgun and killed his family that way. Perhaps he accidentally strangled his wife or something like that. Maybe they were into kinky sex. Don't you guys watch Law and Order: SVU?

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 01:16 PM #1499 of 3609
New stuff: An official confirmed it, also, a potential reason has come to light.

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ATLANTA (AP-Staff) - Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press Tuesday.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and their 7-year-old son, Daniel, who were found dead in an apparent murder-suicide.

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said test results may not be back for weeks or even months.

Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation in DeKalb County.
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The Atlanta-Journal Constitution, while updating their coverage of the Benoit family tragedy, reported that Nancy Benoit filed for divorce and an order of protection in May 2003.

In the divorce petition, Nancy Benoit alleged that Chris Benoit, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."

A judge issued a restraining order against Benoit and barred him from entering the family home. Nancy Benoit asked the court to dismiss the petition in August of that year. The couple later reconciled, celebrating together in the ring following Benoit's WWE World championship win at Wrestlemania XX.

Autopsies in the deaths of The Benoits and their seven year old son Daniel are scheduled for today in Decatur, Georgia.
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PWTorch.com has learned that one major media entity has received an email purporting to be from a friend of the Chris Benoit extended family saying that Benoit accidentally killed his wife in a domestic argument, then panicked and killed his son later so his son could be with his mother rather than grow up without a mom and knowing his father as a murderer.
The last one is mere speculation, though.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 01:25 PM #1500 of 3609
Jesus, this getting really bad.

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