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Benoit took a hiatus from wrestling a while back to try and patch things up with his family. Obviously, this must not have worked. Wife decides she wants to leave him, and informs him of much that weekend. He becomes entranced in a bestial rage, kills his wife and then decides that his son has to go too because you know "I love them too much, and if they can't be with me then nobody deserves them!" He awakens from his rage, realizes what he's done and promptly ends his own life. Wife will probably end up strangled, son will end up suffocated (pillow over mouth). He'll have probably overdosed on prescribed pain medication. He may have been a badass wrestler, but fuck if I ever want to see his ass in a Hall of Fame or be talked about fondly again. Doing what he did to his family just shits on the reputation of the industry, the people that trained him, and the fans who loved to watch his matches. Even had he not taken his life, he still would have had to face a double capital murder charge. Two consecutive life sentences or death row. By going out this way though, he's made to look like he needs to be mourned, and I don't believe so. I feel bad for the families, and hope his wife and son rest in peace. As for Benoit himself, I hope Eddie Guerrero rips him a new one. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Unfortunately, what you said Kos does make sense.
I am hoping against hope that it is NOT the case, and Benoit did NOT actually do this. I was speaking idiomatically. |
Woman: Ha, they put you ECW? That's it...I don't know you anymore.
Benoit: Urge to kill...Rising... I didn't know about the family patching leave...I thought it was for surgery. Unless it was the wife who killed Chris and the son, then herself (and from what I remember of Woman, I wouldn't be horribly surprised), that sounds like a likely scenario. I'll always be a fan of the guy and his suicide headbutts and stuff, but there is a bit of a personal conflict if the murder bit turns out to be real (which it apparently was). But then again, you never know the rest of the circumstances. In any case, my ECW theory is just as good as any until some real facts come out. Maybe...Kevin Sullivan, Benoit's sworn enemy has a role? (he took Woman away from him originally). What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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I'm screaming for vengenace... I'm shouting at the devil... I'm not dead and I'm not for sale... Ain't lookin' for nothin' but a good time... |
Goldfish, I had that suspicision too. I mean, I would never want to point fingers on something like this, but that thought DID cross my mind. Also, I thought Benoit was off for that time because of surgery, but also burn out. Of course, it COULD be a combination of both.
I guess is, IF this were to be true, what REALLY makes it hard is thinking about him in his tribute match with Bret, crying when Eddie died, his tribute match with Eddie, and so forth. I can only imagine guys like Malenko, Rey, and Chavo, who were even closer to him, how they must be feeling. FELIPE NO |
From what I remember, he was an awesome wrestler. It is bad enough to hear that he died, but even worse to hear that he might have even killed his wife and child.
I don't think he did it. And if I'm wrong, so be it. Kostaki's theory makes a lot of sense, but I'm hoping he's wrong (No offense, Kostaki.). What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Personally, I'd rather be completely fooled into thinking this actually never happened and it was totally a work. I wouldn't be mad at all.
Most of my theory comes from what is known currently about the crime. - No shots were fired, no breaking and entering done - Wife killed first in study/living/office area - Son killed second in a bedroom - Chris died last in a weight room - Original hiatus was for her neck surgery, but also to patch things up - He forfeited a chance to become ECW Champion (title would have been his) - His house is gated and guarded by two rather large dogs What I put together only seems likely because he gave up the ECW title, as he would have won it, to go home for something that he obviously prioritized far and beyond over his own career. It had to be a mega serious issue to do that. Everything else I concluded just from the available information now. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
It's sadly ironic that of the 'three big deaths', each men would have (reportedly) been scheduled to win a title (Owen, Eddie and Benoit).
I have to agree though. I wish it were a work as well. Be ultra pissed at the WWE and never watch it again, but at least breathe a sigh of relief. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Just horrible news to hear.
This whole "McMahon death" angle was just executed at the wrong time, with the untimely deaths of Sherri and Benoit. ![]() Most amazing jew boots |
In all objective fairness, Kostaki, what are your sources for that information?
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Mostly various news sources, Associated Press and the like. Some reports have more information than others. A few of the reports are from WWE.com as well, which is why I said that I would like this to be a work. At the same time though, I'm in Corpus Christi and I can confirm they basically told the entire place to go home before the show even started. I don't think they'd actually choose to lose an entire televised show gate like this unless there was some foundation to the news being posted on WWE.com.
I'm certainly not basing theories on mere speculation. How ya doing, buddy? |
I can only imagine what would happen if this WAS a work. Aside from alienating many of it's fans and losing whatever respect that was left, I'd wonder what would happen with various news sites and so forth who have been covering this.
Additional Spam: Quote: Wrestlezone.com Benoit Kills Family Over 3 Days... Sources in the Fayette County Police Department are now working under the theory that Chris Benoit killed Nancy on Saturday, son Daniel on Sunday, and then killed himself earlier today. Benoit was found dead in his weight room. Nancy was found dead in the living room. Daniel was found dead in his bedroom, according to an unnamed source in the department. Lt. Tommy Pope told ABC News "the instruments of death were located on the scene," but didn't specify what those were or where they were found. Pope said the department was not actively searching for any suspects outside the house. I really don't know how Benoit can literally go nuts for basically two or three days. Like, what was his mindset to go for three full days? Also, how DO they know the order? Most amazing jew boots
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All I can say is that, if it's true that he in-fact killed is wife and child, my opinion of him as an in-ring performer won't change. However, my opinion of him as a man and a human being will obviously change dramatically. Regardless of the circumstances or reasoning, there is no cause to resort to something like this. It's completely a cowardly, desperate and downright pitiful out. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions until all the details have been put forth, but it's not sounding very good at all, no matter which way the wind blows on this one.
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I'd rather all this speculation drop and have actual proof of what went down. What's all this is this bizzaro world? Who tells the press the details will be bizzare. I do agree with bishop though, my opinion of the man as an in-ring performer won't change. He was the man, hands down. But if he did go on a murdering rampage on his own home, well I just don't know what to think. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
My only speculation is that...he probably caught his wife cheating and then he flipped.. There is no one left to carry on his lineage. It had to be something serious that would put him over the edge.
Jam it back in, in the dark. |
They establish that no shots were fired and there's no signs of any illegal entry into the household. They establish the time of death on all three corpses, and note the order of death from that. His wife died first, then his son, then Chris himself. Looking at the above fact, with Chris the last to die, it becomes easy to conclude that it was a double murder-suicide. There aren't too many other possibilities once extenuating circumstances surrounding the area and the time of death is established for all three bodies. Method/Motive is really all that remains. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
I'm just having a hard time believing this. First finding out the death of Benoit and his family yesterday was bad enough. Now I wake up and find out that he might've murdered them? This is just horrible. Guess we've gotta wait to hear what the autopsy says.
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
How do they establish a time of death though is my question.
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I'm not too familiar with how forensics works, but I'm sure it has to do with the state the body is found in. How much rigor mortis (no pun intended) has set in, probably a bunch of other underlying scientific factors. I wouldn't mind taking a forensics class eventually.
I was speaking idiomatically. |
ANd some new information:
WWE's VP of Government Relations Richard Hering was then made aware of several curious text messages sent by Benoit to WWE employees and wrestlers on Sunday morning. WrestleView.com has spoken with at least one strong source about this situation stating that Benoit's text messages almost had a "thank you and goodbye" theme to them causing many to be alarmed and concerned. As a result, Hering contacted Fayette County sheriffs on Monday and requested that they check out the Benoit residence when he was not getting back to WWE officials. The 'thank you and good-bye' part is creepy. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
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This is a fucking lovely thing to wake up to.
Last night I had to hold back tears over the loss of one of my favorites, only to be woken up and angered by the fact that he may have done himself and his family in? Goddamn, man. As morbid as it sounds, I kind of hope his wife did the thing... I prefer thinking fondly of Benoit. EDIT: TMZ got some new leads on all this: TMZ has learned more about the deaths of WWE wrestling superstar Chris Benoit, his wife and son -- and the information is extremely disturbing. Several Atlanta-based law enforcement sources have told TMZ Benoit may have strangled his wife on Saturday, then smothered his son in his bed a day later. Investigators refuse to officially comment, pending final confirmation by the coroner on the cause and time of the deaths. One source told TMZ that Benoit was texting friends during Sunday's WWE "Vengeance" Pay-Per-View program -- possibly watching the show with his son, who may have been alive at the time. According to sources, Benoit then hanged himself Monday in a weight room inside the family home. A police investigation is ongoing. Another interesting thing is that WWE is removing all merchandise regarding Benoit from their site, even going so far as to say that the WMXX main event was HHH vs. HBK for the title, completely omitting Benoit. Most amazing jew boots If there is evil in this world, it lies within the hearts of mankind.
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This came from 4W-wrestling, and makes it all that much creepier:
TMZ has learned more about the deaths of WWE wrestling superstar Chris Benoit, his wife and son -- and the information is extremely disturbing. Several Atlanta-based law enforcement sources have told TMZ Benoit may have strangled his wife on Saturday, then smothered his son in his bed a day later. Investigators refuse to officially comment, pending final confirmation by the coroner on the cause and time of the deaths. One source told TMZ that Benoit was texting friends during Sunday's WWE "Vengeance" Pay-Per-View program -- possibly watching the show with his son, who may have been alive at the time. According to sources, Benoit then hanged himself Monday in a weight room inside the family home. I am seriously trying to imagine Benoit, just calmly sitting there with his son, watching the PPV (if that happened). I am trying to imagine what his son was thinking, or if he knew anything that was going on. I mean, to have his son come down for breakfast and spend the entire day with him. I am trying to imagne what was going through Benoit's mind at that point in time. It wasn't a few minutes, or a few hours, but an ENTIRE DAY. Was he thinking through his options? DId he just watch the PPV, kind of like to have that one last day of life doing what he wanted to do (and watching what he loved to watch), before doing what he did afterwards? Very freaky and sad stuff. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Well at least you can all be consoled by the fact that this was ultimately a domestic incident, which is the number one cause of murder in the US. So it's not like he was a crazy raving lunatic. It'd be far more disturbing if he'd, for instance, taken a shotgun and killed his family that way. Perhaps he accidentally strangled his wife or something like that. Maybe they were into kinky sex. Don't you guys watch Law and Order: SVU?
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New stuff: An official confirmed it, also, a potential reason has come to light.
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Jesus, this getting really bad.
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