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[Movie] American Idol Season 6
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Old Mar 3, 2007, 04:59 PM Local time: Mar 3, 2007, 03:59 PM #26 of 53
Antonella might go pretty far, but she won't win. She shouldn't go far, but votefortheworst.com is supporting her. >:( You sure lucked out with Melinda, though.

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Old Mar 3, 2007, 05:01 PM #27 of 53
If votefortheworst has any influence at all, then Sanjaya will take the gold medal. That kid's horrible.

Also, he has caterpillars for eyebrows. That is just freakish.

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Old Mar 3, 2007, 05:42 PM Local time: Mar 3, 2007, 04:42 PM #28 of 53
They're championing Sundance for the guys. I hate Sanjaya with a fiery passion. He's not a good singer at all, he's ugly and freaky looking, and I don't know why people are voting for him (according to dialidol.com he has probably been second in the voting both weeks). Amen on the eyebrows. :P

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Old Mar 4, 2007, 08:45 AM #29 of 53
Last night my husband wondered how anyone could make it to adulthood and not have been told the truth about their lack of singing abilities, and he's right. I guess their families and friends were too nice for their own good. Either that, or they have been told they can't sing and just refuse to believe it. Either way, so sad.
I think it is because no one want to say anything negative to attractive people. Hot girls between the ages of 18-30 rule the world. It is not until they hit their 30's that reality kicks in.

I haven't heard any comments on the Antonella pics? You guys DO know about them, or are you choosing to ignore them?

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Old Mar 4, 2007, 11:17 AM Local time: Mar 4, 2007, 10:17 AM #30 of 53
I mostly don't care about them. I mean, sure, she doesn't have the squeaky-clean image that Idol typically likes to parade around, but her abysmal singing ought to get her kicked off the show anyway. And there's nothing in the rules that states that she shouldn't have taken near-porn pics of herself before auditioning anyway. It's unfortunate, but it shouldn't take her out of the competition.

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Old Mar 4, 2007, 11:27 AM #31 of 53
Are they saying she should be taken out of the competition because of the pics? I don't think that should have any bearing on if she can sing or not. I don't watch American Idol, but if Antonella's singing is bad; she should be kicked off becasue of that, not because of some pics.

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Old Mar 4, 2007, 11:57 AM Local time: Mar 4, 2007, 10:57 AM #32 of 53
Well, people outside of Idol are clamoring for her to get kicked off because she's not a good role model, or something. I don't think the Idol producers will do anything about it, though, because A) any press is good press, and 2) she's (hopefully) bound to get kicked off eventually anyway. I would honestly lose all trust in the system if she made it to the final grouping. Votefortheworst has outdone themselves this year.

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Old Mar 8, 2007, 11:22 AM Local time: Mar 8, 2007, 10:22 AM #33 of 53
Holy monkey, I have to post just to note how FREAKING INCREDIBLE Melinda Doolittle is. I probably come across as a bit of a broken record, but they should just cancel the show, hand her the crown, and get her in a studio to start laying down tracks for a CD. She could be kicked off today and she'd have a record contract in a heartbeat. She's AMAZING. I was floored, once again.

It's too bad the guys are stinkin' it up so bad, because the girls are really on fire this year. The overall talent pool might leave a lot to be desired when compared with last season, but the girls have it goin' on.

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Old May 10, 2007, 01:50 PM Local time: May 10, 2007, 12:50 PM #34 of 53
Chris Richardson is okay, if not a little bit of a Justin Timberlake wannabe. He'll make Top 12 easily but probably won't get into the final six.

Melinda, however, has the goods to go the distance. Her only true competition could come from Lakisha Jones or possibly Chris Sligh, depending upon whether he delivers a few knockouts along the way.
If votefortheworst has any influence at all, then Sanjaya will take the gold medal. That kid's horrible.

Also, he has caterpillars for eyebrows. That is just freakish.


In other news, I called the final 4 back during the round of 24, and the top 3 are who they ought to be, I think. And now there's not much of a split of demographics - it's going to be a battle royale, and I don't know who I want to go next.

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Old May 10, 2007, 02:45 PM Local time: May 10, 2007, 12:45 PM #35 of 53


In other news, I called the final 4 back during the round of 24, and the top 3 are who they ought to be, I think. And now there's not much of a split of demographics - it's going to be a battle royale, and I don't know who I want to go next.
It's feeling like they might send Jordin home because in all straight up honestly...she doesn't need to win this to have a successful career

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Old May 10, 2007, 03:03 PM Local time: May 10, 2007, 02:03 PM #36 of 53
None of the top 3 do, though. Melinda will be able to release whatever she wants, Blake sounds great recorded (do away with all of his flat notes by post-production) and has a real flair for making things contemporary, and Jordin will do great if she picks the right genre to stick with (unlike Katharine McPhee - fantastic voice, but I don't think she chose a smart genre to work with given her strengths). Really at this point it's more of a question of who gets to play hard ball and have a hand in determining their record deal, and who's locked into the American Idol spot. It's a trade-off, because you get a heckuvalot of advertising and built-in popularity through American Idol, but you don't determine much of anything on the contract.

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Old May 10, 2007, 05:46 PM Local time: May 10, 2007, 04:46 PM #37 of 53
Maybe it was just me, but LaKisha never really did anything as good as she did when she sang that song in the top 24. She set the bar for herself too high too early, so she was never able to surpass what she did back then.

As for the Top 3, I think they're all pretty good, and they definitely got it right this year. I'm not the biggest Melinda fan (she can sing alright, but she has no personality whatsoever), so aside from her I don't care who wins. I think Blake and Jordin should make the Top 2, but it will most likely wind up being Jordin and Melinda.

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Old May 10, 2007, 06:01 PM Local time: May 10, 2007, 05:01 PM #38 of 53
Maybe it was just me, but LaKisha never really did anything as good as she did when she sang that song in the top 24. She set the bar for herself too high too early, so she was never able to surpass what she did back then.
I agree that she never topped that performance, but I don't think that worked against her - on the contrary, everyone said "Oh, it's gonna be between Melinda and LaKisha" when really, LaKisha should have been maybe 6th. She was good, but so inconsistent. Instead, everyone equated her with awesome and she made it to 4th.

As for the final outcome, it will be really interesting. I don't think Melinda will get cut next week, because her following is strong, but she might not win depending on who she's up against, because of demographic displacement. Jordin and Blake share the younger demographic, but if Jordin gets cut I think more of her votes would go to Melinda than Blake's votes would. I think Jordin has more of a chance of taking Melinda out in the final than Blake would.

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Old May 10, 2007, 06:22 PM #39 of 53
Maybe it was just me, but LaKisha never really did anything as good as she did when she sang that song in the top 24. She set the bar for herself too high too early, so she was never able to surpass what she did back then.
Bear in mind that during the Top 24 rounds, contestants are permitted to choose their own songs from any genre. It's highly likely that "And I'm Not Telling You" is a song that LaKisha had practiced hundreds of times, long before auditions, and knew she could nail.
That said, she tipped her hand far too soon. LaKisha could've sang any number of songs and still fared well, because she's obviously talented. I know you cannot rely upon being permitted to sing your comfort material each week, but some themes are rather loose and there probably could've been weeks during which LaKisha could've sang that song and gained tremendous ground when it truly counted, instead of charging out the gate and steadily losing steam.

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As for the Top 3, I think they're all pretty good, and they definitely got it right this year. I'm not the biggest Melinda fan (she can sing alright, but she has no personality whatsoever), so aside from her I don't care who wins. I think Blake and Jordin should make the Top 2, but it will most likely wind up being Jordin and Melinda.
See, this is where I disagree. I find Melinda to be far more interesting than Jordin. Jordin seems quite bland, interchangeable even. She could be any of a number of other Idol castoffs - Kimberly Locke, Trenyce, Nadia Turner, LaToya London, Lisa Tucker - and it wouldn't affect the songs she sings, nor the personality we're shown. She goes out there, sings, then stands around like a cardboard cut-out while the judges pour meaningless commentary. She doesn't make a peep. When Jordin isn't singing, she's practically invisible. And this is why she's not ready to blossom yet: Jordin lacks presence. Blake and Melinda - even LaKisha - have it. (Melinda's coyness is an act and Simon has rightly commanded her to let it go.) Jordin's performance feels like an afterthought before she's even left the stage, because once it's over, she's a shadow of herself.

The final two, in my opinion, should be Melinda and Blake. Melinda's singing has maintained the highest level of consistency throughout the competition, and Blake's unique skills are well deserving of a spot in the last episode. Both are ready for the big leagues. Jordin's not quite there yet.

And she may never be, seeing as third place Idol finishers don't exactly have a proven track record of success. Nikki McKibbin, Jasmine Trias, Vonzell Solomon and probably Elliot Yamin, soon enough, will see their careers reduced to little more than blurbs in a TV Guide retrospective and maybe being the answer on a Trivial Pursuit card.

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Old May 10, 2007, 08:42 PM Local time: May 10, 2007, 07:42 PM #40 of 53
See, this is where I disagree. I find Melinda to be far more interesting than Jordin. Jordin seems quite bland, interchangeable even. She could be any of a number of other Idol castoffs - Kimberly Locke, Trenyce, Nadia Turner, LaToya London, Lisa Tucker - and it wouldn't affect the songs she sings, nor the personality we're shown. She goes out there, sings, then stands around like a cardboard cut-out while the judges pour meaningless commentary. She doesn't make a peep. When Jordin isn't singing, she's practically invisible. And this is why she's not ready to blossom yet: Jordin lacks presence. Blake and Melinda - even LaKisha - have it. (Melinda's coyness is an act and Simon has rightly commanded her to let it go.) Jordin's performance feels like an afterthought before she's even left the stage, because once it's over, she's a shadow of herself.
I really don't see Melinda having more presence than Jordin. The only thing I see her doing better than Jordin is singing, but that's not all what this competition is about. I'm not saying Jordin is brimming with personality either, as they both pretty much fail in that department (Blake would win hands down if this was just about who had the best personality), but when it comes down to it, I think Jordin beats Melinda in this regard.

Just look at their performances each week. Melinda has no stage presence at all. She hardly moves around on stage, she makes really awkward looking faces while singing, and even her wardrobe is just plain. I honestly can't remember any time the judges have complimented her on her look or her ability to perform, they just keep going on about how great she sings. Jordin, on the other hand, may not sing the best each week, but she can still do it well, while also incorporating the kind of stage presence that Melinda doesn't. I honestly don't care what the judges say or any of that stuff that happens after the singing, so you're probably right about Jordin in that respect. But from what I've seen of Melinda in this regards, all she manages to do is further my dislike of her.

I just really don't think Melinda has a chance at winning, and even if she does, she hardly has a chance at having a successful career. There's just nothing very marketable about her (as Taylor Hicks definitely proved, winning the title of American Idol just isn't enough to make you successful), and I honestly can't think of what audience she could even be tried to marketed to in the first place. In this respect, Jordin, and definitely Blake, beat her, as they skew much younger and therefore have a much bigger audience they could reach out to.

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Old May 11, 2007, 12:37 AM Local time: May 10, 2007, 11:37 PM #41 of 53
I will agree that Blake and Jordin are more marketable, but that's mostly because they're more attractive, and are (and feel) younger. Stage presence isn't all about moving around and making pretty faces - stage presence is about commanding attention and demanding respect. When she's up there talking, Melinda has no apparent stage presence. Once she starts to sing, though, people who like the type of music she sings perk up, bigtime. And she knows how to move around the stage - "Have A Nice Day" and "I'm A Woman" should have proven that, among other songs. She doesn't move around on every song, I think, because it doesn't necessarily call for it, and she knows it isn't her strength. Jordin doesn't move around much, either, because her stage style is more of a ballad approach. Blake moves the entire time because he knows how, and it's part of his ticket to go places. I understand that people will dislike Melinda, but to say she has no stage presence doesn't make any sense to me.

As for a lucrative career, Melinda can definitely pull it off, if she picks the right music to do. Her biggest demographic is the 35-44 age group, although she garners support from other groups as well. Marketing her to the major supporting demographic is the smart way to go - it's how people like Celine Dion, Michael Buble, Josh Groban, and that sort keep the money flying in. Melinda can vocally pull of any genre that's thrown at her, but her sweet spots are in soul, old-style Aretha-type stuff, and ballads. Sticking to her strengths, I'm sure she'd do fine.

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Old May 16, 2007, 09:30 PM #42 of 53
Well, it's official. America hates experience and talent.

Cookie-cutter Jordin will probably win now. She's completely bland and vanilla. She's never stuck out to me through the whole competition. I've always regarded her as more of a tag-along presence, someone creeping in the shadows of the more talented, female singers like Melinda and LaKisha.

But America likes predictability, and that's what they'll get. Jordin's album will be filled with lifeless, R&B drivel. It will flood the radio waves and if you didn't know better, you'd think it was someone more notable and interesting, like Beyonce or Brandy. But they'll tell you it was Jordin Sparks, and you'll react by saying "Oh."

Perhaps this premature departure will give Melinda Doolittle the freedom to offer creative input into her debut album, allowing it to be something worth a listener's time. Chris Daughtry and Clay Aiken capitalized upon that freedom, and there's no reason Melinda can't either. I expect the same of Blake.

Meanwhile, Jordin will be locked and chained into the American Idol contract, helpless and unable to express herself musically because the producers think she should be performing uninspired R&B schlock. And that's fine with me, as a lackluster debut is the surest way to send her career to an early grave and remove her from the cultural radar.

(I'm mostly just bitter about missing out on $120 in the American Idol pool at work. Melinda was supposed to be my meal ticket. You suck, America.)

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Old May 16, 2007, 10:56 PM Local time: May 16, 2007, 09:56 PM #43 of 53
I still don't see Jordin being more bland than Melinda. Sure, Melinda can sing, but that's all she can do. That would help her if American Idol was a radio show, but since it's on television just singing isn't enough. Jordin may not be the best singer, but at least she actually moves around on the stage, while Melinda was stiff as board every freaking week. Melinda just never put on the persona of being the American Idol, in my opinion.

And honestly, nobody this season actually stuck out enough for me to actually wanna go buy their album, so I could care less what happens to them post-Idol. I might be curious enough about what Blake does to give his album a download, but spending money on any of these people is something I couldn't imagine myself doing.

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Old May 16, 2007, 10:59 PM Local time: May 16, 2007, 10:59 PM #44 of 53
I've never really followed AI until the Barry Gibb week (because I'm a pre-disco Bee Gees fanatic). It was then that my smile for seeing covers of Bee Gees songs turned to frowns, and in my agony I realized that the final four were quite bland, save for Blake's beat boxing interpretations. I actually like the original This is Where I Came In and was quite excited when I heard Blake sing it. Goes to show that people only like covers they know.

Now that it's down to Blake and Jordin, I'm just hoping Blake will win, although I doubt it because Jordin's got that innocent sweet young girl personality (although she's twice as big/tall as Ryan Seacrest!! Christ). Even then I wouldn't be happy if she or Blake won. Jordin just doesn't seem good enough and neither does Blake. His voice is quite lifeless save for the beat boxing.

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Old May 16, 2007, 11:38 PM Local time: May 16, 2007, 08:38 PM #45 of 53
I don't follow American shi Idol at all, but I just thought that I'd brag to you Sanjaya fans that I met this character on the weekend, in Seattle. That is all.

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And then I looked up some of his stuff on youtube, and I almost cried.


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I've never really followed AI until the Barry Gibb week (because I'm a pre-disco Bee Gees fanatic). It was then that my smile for seeing covers of Bee Gees songs turned to frowns, and in my agony I realized that the final four were quite bland, save for Blake's beat boxing interpretations. I actually like the original This is Where I Came In and was quite excited when I heard Blake sing it. Goes to show that people only like covers they know.

Now that it's down to Blake and Jordin, I'm just hoping Blake will win, although I doubt it because Jordin's got that innocent sweet young girl personality (although she's twice as big/tall as Ryan Seacrest!! Christ). Even then I wouldn't be happy if she or Blake won. Jordin just doesn't seem good enough and neither does Blake. His voice is quite lifeless save for the beat boxing.
Honestly, Blake just feels like another Justin Timberlake to me. The beatboxing thing gets old after a while, and he doesn't have that amazing of a voice to begin with. I was hoping that Melinda and Jordin would be duking it out in the finals, but now I'm just praying that Jordin wins.

At least this time, it's guaranteed that the winner won't be from the south. We got a guy from Washington and a girl from Arizona. :|

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Old May 17, 2007, 02:17 AM #47 of 53
Heh, I'm not sure if I made a post in this topic but I did watch season 6 from start to now and next week. I was hoping that Melinda and Jordin would make it to the final instead of Blake (he's good but not good to be in the final IMO) because it will make the final show more interesting. Now I just see Jordin winning season 6.

Since someone brought up on Sanjaya, I might as well get this off my mind: I think that votefortheworst.com (or .net or whatever's calledl; I don't know nor care) screw up season 6 for keeping Sanjaya in the competition for so long. If he was out before the final 12 I bet any of those contestant that got booted off before Sanjaya could had gotten a chance to improve themselves and change the outcome in the finals... just maybe...

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Old May 17, 2007, 08:48 AM Local time: May 17, 2007, 01:48 PM #48 of 53
Far as I understand it American idol and it's clone shows were never about talent, just who was the best overall marketable package =P

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Old May 17, 2007, 10:46 AM Local time: May 17, 2007, 11:46 AM #49 of 53
Personally, I wasn't too surprised to see Melinda go. she doesn't have the look that Jordin and Blake have. However, i think Melinda will do better selling albums.

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Old May 17, 2007, 11:01 AM Local time: May 17, 2007, 09:01 AM #50 of 53
Since someone brought up on Sanjaya, I might as well get this off my mind: I think that votefortheworst.com (or .net or whatever's calledl; I don't know nor care) screw up season 6 for keeping Sanjaya in the competition for so long. If he was out before the final 12 I bet any of those contestant that got booted off before Sanjaya could had gotten a chance to improve themselves and change the outcome in the finals... just maybe...
Its a ratings ploy, by keeping him on as long as they did it made people watch more because they wanted him off. Every week he was on, more people watched to see when he'd get voted off

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