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 Member 30 Level 41.66 Mar 2006 
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Basil Poledouris / Charles Deenen Plagiarism ?
I was first introduced to the Main Theme of the Lord of the Rings Vol.1 game in it's SNES version. Eventhough the game was kinda lame, the music left a lasting impression years after I sold the game, and I eventually recorded it later.
That's during this recording session that I realized variations on this theme were actually used in basically every previous LOTR Vol.1 versions, even the ones not licenced to Interplay and had first been introduced by Charles Deenen in the C64 version. Wether he actually composed the later versions or they were ported by someone else is unknown. Anyway, recently, I was listening to random Poledouris soundtracks in hope of finding gems. I saw he did the music to the 1985 Verhoeven's movie Flesh and Blood, and thought "Hey why not". What's funny is that I saw that movie more than a couple times in the past and enjoyed it, but strangely didnt remember the music as anything special. Anyway, something stroke me on the first notes of the Flesh and Blood's Main Title, and it was a matter of seconds before I was all "OMG LOTR VOL.1". =\/ Because yes, that's what it is, note for note. Here are mp3s: Flesh and Blood - Basil Poledouris Get the Flash Player to play this audio file: C64 Get the Flash Player to play this audio file: Amiga Get the Flash Player to play this audio file: SNES Get the Flash Player to play this audio file: I guess there's no need to argue the fact it's the same song, right ? So now, I wonder ... The initial C64 version of the game was released in 1985, same year as the movie was. Was there some commercial agreement, or was the C64 scene so niched it just went unnoticed ? I am also thinking it could well be a traditional medieval tune that both composers took inspiration from ... =/ Anyway, your thoughts ? Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Member 186 Level 31.23 Mar 2006
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That's interesting! It might indeed be a traditional piece, or a direct copy, I don't know at this moment. I'll do a little investigation on my side, but if no info is avaible about this on the web, we could ask Charles Deenen directly.
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Member 482 Level 45.24 Mar 2006
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The C64 version of that track is disgustingly good. I don't usually like VGM, but I'm saving that one.
As for the whole plagiarism angle, I agree that it's probably a traditional melody. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Member 30 Level 41.66 Mar 2006
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I'm just surprised I haven't heard it elsewhere already, as I listen to quite a lot of that kind of stuff. Then again, you're sometimes surprised to find out which era is a piece of music actually from ...
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Member 19121 Level 28.96 Feb 2007
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Sounds a bit like an irish folk melody, which might describe why its being used so broadly. Folk music isn't necessarily subject to copyright infringement but its indeed a bit perplexing how each version is nearly identical.
NICE FIND btw Niki. I use to love this music when I bought LOTR Vol. 1 and its nice to know that someone else appreciates it. I was speaking idiomatically.
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