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[Classic] Final Fantasy VI Advanced
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Old Feb 15, 2007, 10:10 AM #176 of 282
It's actually not any different in most of the Final Fantasy games, though. They would force usually one person in along with the main character after a certain amount of time and then you would get the same problem. This was especially noticeable in Final Fantasy IX, so it isn't as if FF6 is the sole culprit in the series.

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 12:30 PM Local time: Feb 15, 2007, 11:30 AM #177 of 282
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^That was definitely not directed toward you (or anyone in particular). Try not to miscontrue general statements as direct personal attacks.
Well, sorry about that then. I guess I still fail to see what you were referring to.

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 12:33 PM Local time: Feb 15, 2007, 10:33 AM #178 of 282
I think he was speaking generally. It tends to happen with most older Final Fantasy games.

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 12:40 PM Local time: Feb 15, 2007, 11:40 AM #179 of 282
No, I'm just saying that I saw no signs of this thread degrading into "'which FF is best' fanboy faggotry." Considering he posted that right after my post, I thought he was referring to it. Apparently I was mistaken, but still, I failed to see any "fanboy faggotry" going on.

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 01:44 PM #180 of 282
You really need an explanation? It's quite simple.

Absolutely any thread involving discussion of the FF series has the potential to degenerate into incredibly lame, GameFAQs-caliber "xxx game sucks or xxx game rules because I am a douche" flamewar gayness. It's especially dangerous when personal opinions start to factor in more and more. I've seen it happen many, many times.

OR

It can be a perfectly civil and upstanding discussion (which is what this thread is at right now).

All I said was please don't let the former happen.

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 01:55 PM Local time: Feb 15, 2007, 12:55 PM #181 of 282
Okay, that's fine. Yes, indeed, I did want an explanation. I certainly wasn't intending to start an argument by any means. I'm not entirely sure why you have to take on such a condescending and hostile tone in your posts, for I was not attacking you, I was simply wondering what it was that you were talking about.

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 02:37 PM #182 of 282
I'm not entirely sure why you have to take on such a condescending and hostile tone in your posts, for I was not attacking you, I was simply wondering what it was that you were talking about.
I'm not entirely sure why you have to take on such a defensive tone in your posts, because I'm not attacking you either.

You think that's hostile? You haven't been on the internet much have you

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 02:52 PM Local time: Feb 15, 2007, 01:52 PM #183 of 282
Actually, I can almost guarantee I've been here longer than you. I guess if you really want to continue with this, we should do so via PM.

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 03:37 PM #184 of 282
Actually, I can almost guarantee I've been here longer than you.
Heh, that proves my point right there. You're so easy to get a rise out of. Maybe my "hostility" and cynicism is a rarity in GFF, but outside these sheltered walls there are people who are far, far worse than me. The worst scum you could imagine, and they would eat you alive.

Anyway back on topic...I finished the game with only Celes-Edgar-Setzer. If you beat the game with Relm without Strago her ending changes as well but I really don't feel like going through all that again just for that.

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 03:51 PM #185 of 282
I problem I find with FFVI, though, is the fact you're allowed to choose your part members frequently. While that's great in itself, it actually hurts the storyline a bit, as only the characters who are forced to be in the party actually contributes to the story. Any expendable character either a) doesn't say anything at all during cutscenes (so why are they there?), or b) says some general statement that anyone would say, without injecting any of his/her personality into it.

It's not like the more recent FF games where additional party members actually say things that goes with the character's personality. The dialogue/scenes actually changes depending on who you choose to go with you. That makes the story more believable, in my opinion.
Well, the thing with VI is that there's a massive amount of characters compared to other Final Fantasy games. Writing in a different part for each character might get a bit hairy since you would need 12x more lines than previously. The difference between this game and later games after it, besides the fact that this game has significantly more playable characters is that whenever the later games have major speaking parts, the ENTIRE party is somehow there, or your party is selected automatically and cannot be changed. It's not always the case, but it usually is. While I'm not defending it, the reason it's most obvious is VI is that there are much more parts of the game where you get to completely select your party compared to later games.

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Old Feb 17, 2007, 07:13 PM Local time: Feb 17, 2007, 05:13 PM #186 of 282
I beat the game today, and watched the beautiful ending.

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Kaiser wasn't all that difficult. I used a level 75 Terra, and a level 40 Cyan. I nuked 200,000 HP away with Flare alone. I guess I still have to see what Diabolos does.

I also haven't checked out the new cave west of Mobliz yet. You can't get there until you finish Kefka.


A cool word: I'm sure a few people know that you can steal a Ragnarok and Ultima Weapon from the enemies on the final tier of Dancing Mad. You get to keep them now if you obtain them thanks to the new cave.

This has changed my party line-up, because I choose characters based on skill and possible equip. Terra and Celes are guaranteed because of their high magic/magic evade. Terra's Apocalypse is nearly equal to the Ragnarok. Locke's Zwill Crossblade and Edgar's Longinus are less than acceptable, However, the new Ragnarok puts Locke in my party and Edgar's Tools bests every other characters skills. Not to mention, hardly anyone else can equip all this heavy armor.

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Old Feb 18, 2007, 07:13 AM #187 of 282
Woo, I come here to check on this thread after a few days to see it all gone to hell. Okay, slight exaggeration there.

Yo, Omnislash, I see your point.

I finished AP levelling my entire team, so I'm off to the Floating Continent to advance the story. I finally found the Ribbon in South Figaro. Haha, it actually took me a while to find the secret entrance >_>

I forgot, but do you need the airship to get to Phoenix Cave? How soon as possible can you get to the cave, and will I get creamed? I hear it's supposed to be dangerous and crap, but hell, I want Locke back ASAP, even if it means heading straight into the lion's den without preparing. He's my favourite character and all >_>

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Old Feb 18, 2007, 11:02 AM #188 of 282
It's risky, but you could do it if you're careful. You do indeed need the airship, but you get that rather early. The Phoenix Cave might be a bit hard if you do it early though. You'll have a grand total of 4 Characters: Celes, Sabin, Edgar, Setzer. And you'll have to split those 4 characters up into 2 groups. Meaning 2 per group and going through the entire phoenix cave with 2 people per group is very risky. Doable though....

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Old Feb 18, 2007, 01:20 PM #189 of 282
Y'know, while I was typing my post, I had a feeling I was missing something. Now you've clinched it. Bah, I suppose they assume the cave would be last place you'd want to go to : /

I'll try anyway, because it's my duty :D

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Feb 19, 2007, 02:59 PM Local time: Feb 19, 2007, 08:59 PM #190 of 282
Just finished Zozo and gotten my first load of Magicite (You know, on reflection, using the remains of magical creatures seems kinda off, kinda like Necromancy.) and just screwing around Magic Grinding.

You know, if FF6's Esper System was used in FF8, maybe I would of forgiven FF8's insufferable protagonist.

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Old Feb 20, 2007, 01:42 PM Local time: Feb 20, 2007, 11:42 AM #191 of 282
I thought that the protaganist in FFVIII was decent. I mean, wasn't that the point in the game, to deal with angst?

Anyway. Is it just me, or is FF6 harder than I recall? Maybe I remember it being easy so I thought it'd be very easy, but it's quite difficult.

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Old Feb 20, 2007, 01:58 PM #192 of 282
What exactly is giving you trouble? Even beating the game with only Celes, Edgar, and Setzer was easier than I expected.

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Old Feb 20, 2007, 02:15 PM #193 of 282
I love the new it so far. I have been playing on VBA and I kinda fucked up my save file and lost some of my progress (I was trying to get into the empire to get to the magitech research facility and I had to restart from right before I went to fiargo (sp) to go find terra

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Old Feb 22, 2007, 08:25 AM #194 of 282
Hey, time for an update. I stopped playing after defeating the Storm Dragon and getting Cyan back in Mt. Zozo. "Bushido in The Bedroom."

Anyway, I decided to get most of my party back before getting Locke >_>

The damn Storm Dragon is the most challenging boss I've encountered so far, which shouldn't be surprising because it's an optional boss. I had Celes, Edgar, Sabin and Setzer fighting the damn thing, and all the guys died hideously. Celes (yay for girl power!) was left with like, less than 50 HP, and it was her turn to attack. I decided to go desperate and hit it with a Thundara (it's weak to it, and she does over 4K DMG) instead of healing, and it turned red and bit it. Whooo!! Don't you just love close calls like that? Man I miss stealing stuffs :(

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Old Feb 22, 2007, 09:58 AM #195 of 282

Anyway, I decided to get most of my party back before getting Locke >_>
That's what I did as well. As soon as I got back the airship, I went to get Mog (so I could get the Moogle Charm) then just went around picking people up (starting with Gogo)

Right now I'm just leveling everyone up while letting some people learn Magic (I always avoid having Shadow and Setzer learning magic everytime I play). Speaking of Setzer, I'm trying to find the Fixed Dice so I can "dual weild" both sets of dice with him, but to no luck. It's been that long since I've played it I've forgotten where they're at.

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Old Feb 22, 2007, 10:01 AM Local time: Feb 22, 2007, 03:01 PM #196 of 282
Man I miss stealing stuffs
Heh, I know what you mean. I always feel like I'm missing a few decent items if I don't have Locke (or indeed any thief-like person in a FF game) in my party.

Anyway, I found that elusive Ribbon (cheers SS) and immediately found another one in the Phoenix Cave... typical. Right now I'm halfway through uncursing the Cursed Shield, then I'm gonna raid the Fanatics tower with my ridiculously over-powered team.

Speaking of Setzer, I'm trying to find the Fixed Dice so I can "dual weild" both sets of dice with him, but to no luck. It's been that long since I've played it I've forgotten where they're at.
Kefka's Tower mate.

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Old Feb 22, 2007, 10:13 AM Local time: Feb 22, 2007, 04:13 PM #197 of 282
It's nice to see how many of you still enjoy FFVI, so many years after it's release. Just proves how great a game it is.

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Old Feb 22, 2007, 10:25 AM #198 of 282
It's nice to see how many of you still enjoy FFVI, so many years after it's release. Just proves how great a game it is.
Damn straight it is. As for grabbing Mog, that's a great idea if you want to grab Locke early since he can be in his own group with the Moogle Charm (Or Molulu's Charm, whatever it's called) and not worry about dying. Then all you need is 4 more characters in the second group who can hold their own.

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Old Feb 22, 2007, 10:31 AM #199 of 282
Hey, that sounds like a great idea. It prevents random battles, yes? Cool. I'll try that on the way home today. Is Mog back at the Narshe caves? I can't remember.

P.S. Are all the other seven dragon as hard as the Storm one? >_>

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Old Feb 22, 2007, 10:42 AM Local time: Feb 22, 2007, 03:42 PM #200 of 282
Hey, that sounds like a great idea. It prevents random battles, yes? Cool. I'll try that on the way home today. Is Mog back at the Narshe caves? I can't remember.
Yes, Mog is back there. Examine the wall where he was standing to find the relic.
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P.S. Are all the other seven dragon as hard as the Storm one? >_>
Nope. In fact, most of them are walk-overs. Especially the Ice Dragon in Narshe Snowfields. Piece of cake.

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