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Old Jan 24, 2007, 08:55 PM Local time: Jan 24, 2007, 06:55 PM #1 of 28
Oh, You Canadians

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,246288,00.html

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Up to 20,000 Canadians may have unknowingly lost their citizenship by failing to celebrate their 24th birthdays in Canada, the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. reported Wednesday.

An obscure provision in that nation's Citizenship Act — on the books from 1947 to 1977 — automatically stripped citizenship from Canadians who celebrated their 24th birthday outside the country within those dates without signing the proper form, CBC News said.

Now as Canadians rush to get passports to comply with regulations requiring them for entry into the United States, some are finding they are no longer Canadians in good standing.
That's just superb.

How does Canada even know where someone was on their 24th birthday? Canada is filled with spies. :\

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Old Jan 24, 2007, 08:59 PM #2 of 28
That sounds like such an obscure and ridiculous law with a similarly insane loophole embedded somewhere in it. I hope they change that so that I won't have to worry about it in 5/6 years, as that's pretty far out there.

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Old Jan 24, 2007, 09:19 PM Local time: Jan 24, 2007, 09:19 PM #3 of 28
Well it's off the books, so it doesn't apply to anybody who celebrated a birthday out of the country after 1977.

Still, I mean, who's interest was this law made for?

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Old Jan 25, 2007, 09:14 AM #4 of 28
Who knows? There are many obscure patches of law in any legal system. It takes time for them to surface and the government to weed them out.

Still, quite silly.

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Old Jan 25, 2007, 03:30 PM Local time: Jan 25, 2007, 01:30 PM #5 of 28
Hopefully Vancouver doesn't have that in effect. That's absurd, really absurd.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jan 25, 2007, 05:55 PM Local time: Jan 25, 2007, 05:55 PM #6 of 28
I hear something about thousands of Mennonites will not have citizenship either because of their parents or grandparents having kids out of wedlock. It was on cbc.ca.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Jan 25, 2007, 09:19 PM Local time: Jan 25, 2007, 06:19 PM #7 of 28
How do you marry whilst already in wedlock?

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Old Jan 25, 2007, 10:07 PM #8 of 28
Wow. That is one terrible law. I don't understand how it could ever have made sense to anybody.

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Old Jan 25, 2007, 11:43 PM Local time: Jan 25, 2007, 11:43 PM #9 of 28
How do you marry whilst already in wedlock?
Woah! I totally wrote THAT wrong. Its fixed now. Hope you understand it. I apologize for messing that up.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 01:02 AM #10 of 28
Still, I mean, who's interest was this law made for?
I don't think the Immigration offices are that pressed for funds that they need to implement something like this. Although, if each of those 20,000 people forked up $75, that's $1.5 million right there.

Regardless, this law is incredibly ridiculous, not to mention random. What's next, you lose your driver's license if it's not approved by some guy who lives in the Yukon?

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 01:55 AM Local time: Jan 26, 2007, 12:55 AM #11 of 28
...what is up with Canada lately? They're just going crazy. All that pot and neutrality is getting to them. But why talk about Canada anyway? They are possibly the most laid back country on the planet. I don't think they've ever pissed anybody off except their citizens.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 02:02 AM Local time: Jan 26, 2007, 02:02 AM #12 of 28
Law's been off the books since 77, guys.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 08:31 AM #13 of 28
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..what is up with Canada lately? They're just going crazy. All that pot and neutrality is getting to them. But why talk about Canada anyway? They are possibly the most laid back country on the planet. I don't think they've ever pissed anybody off except their citizens.
Having 2 000+ troops in Afghanistan doesn't make us neutral.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 01:40 PM Local time: Jan 26, 2007, 12:40 PM #14 of 28
When was the LAST time you went to war with someone? Oh, and 2000 is a drop in the bucket.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 02:23 PM Local time: Jan 26, 2007, 08:23 PM #15 of 28
And they can go on holiday to other countries and stuff without disguising their accents.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 03:18 PM #16 of 28
[quote[When was the LAST time you went to war with someone? Oh, and 2000 is a drop in the bucket.[/quote]

Right. Never mind the fact that Canada held the NATO command for the mission in Afghanistan until 2006 and that it has seen much of the recent combat there. Far more than "a drop in the bucket", especially considering the size of Canada's population and Canada's military.

By the way, Afghanistan was in invaded in 2001-2002, not 2000.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 04:23 PM Local time: Jan 26, 2007, 03:23 PM #17 of 28
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By the way, Afghanistan was in invaded in 2001-2002, not 2000
Wait... what? I never said that.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 08:13 PM #18 of 28
Right, 2000 troops, not the year 2000. My bad.

It's not a "drop in the bucket" considering where they are deployed - Kandahar, one of the most volatile provinces along with Helmand, controlled by the British. We also contributed aircraft in the Kosovo campaign and a contingent of ships, a field hospital and aircraft for the First Gulf War.

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Old Jan 27, 2007, 10:21 AM #19 of 28
Ahh, we finally found a ultra-conservative that thinks that every country in this world should participate in THEIR war even though they get all the money and resources after it's over.

I'm for the Afghanistan mission. You know what? My city (which hosts a military base), has sent around 250 soldiers to Afghanistan. We care about our soldiers there. And the last thing I want is some ultra-conservative american that is telling me that we're not doing enough. We could send more , but that's up to the government to decide. I'm all for allowing small girls to go to school without worrying, women being able to work and make choices for themselves and that's why I think this mission is important. Irak was just a mistake...and it might be a good idea that we did not participate in that war now that I look at the siuation.

As loyalist said, we sent troops to Bosnia, we helped durign the Gulf War. Many Canadians fought bravely during the second world war and the first gulf war. Canada was even in the Korean War.

Anyway, that was quite off-topic.

As for that stupid law, it's the firt time I hear about it. But as the article says it only applied (for some reason) between 1947 and 1977. I'm guessing the government will define a new law or procedure so these people can be "canadians" officially. If not that would be completely stupid.

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Old Jan 27, 2007, 11:00 AM Local time: Jan 27, 2007, 11:00 AM #20 of 28
Resources? You're sending troops to Afghanistan, which used to be the leader in the world's Opium production.

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Old Jan 28, 2007, 01:50 PM #21 of 28
Actually, Opium production has increased dramatically since NATO took over. I suppose you can do a lot more to curtail it when you have complete control of the civilian population...there's a lot of work being done to slow it down.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jan 28, 2007, 02:15 PM Local time: Jan 28, 2007, 01:15 PM #22 of 28
When was the LAST time you went to war with someone? Oh, and 2000 is a drop in the bucket.
Simply not invading people for the hell of it hardly amounts to being "neutral".

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Jan 28, 2007, 08:02 PM Local time: Jan 28, 2007, 08:02 PM #23 of 28
Actually, Opium production has increased dramatically since NATO took over. I suppose you can do a lot more to curtail it when you have complete control of the civilian population...there's a lot of work being done to slow it down.
You're right, I got that inverted. Even with the Taliban, though, Opium was Afghanistan's chief export. Nobody could conceivably call it a resource war.

I could see, though, how it would have been intended to lead up to one.

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Old Jan 29, 2007, 12:54 PM #24 of 28
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]Simply not invading people for the hell of it hardly amounts to being "neutral".
No-one declares war or launches a military operation without reason. Canada as a power simply does not have the resources to justify unilateral action. The only possible unilateral action that would have the faintest possbility for Canada would be something against Denmark up north, and that's an incredibly remote possibility.

Canada has always acted through coalitions, be it the British Empire, the UN, NATO or other multilateral coalitions such as the original mission to Afghanistan or the Gulf War. The fact of the matter is, at thirty million people and with no enemies close by, it would irresponsible for Canada to engage in unilateral military action. Our military strength, therefore, rests on gaining leadership in multinational coalitions such as NATO (as seen in Afghanistan) and the UN through contributing troops and resources.

In this respect, we have been very successful. We're able to influence American polic through participation in NORAD and other military allainces with the US, we're able to protect our own interests in the UN due to the favour we have there by contributing good (as opposed to resource-leeching) contingents on UN missions and we have signifcant sway in NATO resulting from our strong support for the alliance, as seen in our Cold War German bases, Kosovo support and strong Afghanistan operations. Plus, we have allies gained through both trade and ideology, allowing us to have a seat at the G8, observer status at the EU and a couple of friendly permanent memebers of the Security Council (the US and the UK).

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Old Jan 30, 2007, 01:21 AM Local time: Jan 30, 2007, 12:21 AM #25 of 28
That's uhh....nice?

Seriously, who ordered the lecture

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