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Old Jan 9, 2007, 07:08 PM Local time: Jan 9, 2007, 06:08 PM #1 of 37
Fitness

Are you the work out type who wants to be all ripped?
Is fitness for you just a "eye of the beholder", in your head thing?
Then again, do you even care?

Being the new fella here, I have this to start with cause I've been doing the work out thing for awhile. I want the ripped stomach, arms that are all tight, and the butt that is a magnet for my womans hands.
One of my goals is to do that cool kung fu thing where I can flip up off the ground on to my feet.
Suggestions, comments?.....

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 07:29 PM Local time: Jan 9, 2007, 05:29 PM #2 of 37
I work out to be healthy, but also to have a nice physique. I don't want to be monstrous huge though. I want to look lean but ripped. Since I am a competing martial artist, having smaller mass but great strength is helpful.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Jan 9, 2007, 07:44 PM Local time: Jan 9, 2007, 03:44 PM #3 of 37
Suggestions, comments?.....
Yeah go here and buy this book.

http://www.rosstraining.com/infiniteintensity.html


As for me, I need to stay at a certain weight to keep fighting in my weight class. I need stamina, strength and flexibility, just about everything so I don't really care for an all ripped physique.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 08:06 PM #4 of 37
I do a bit of everything--powerlifting, olympic lifting, and bodybuilding. I want to be big, strong, balanced, and healthy. I love the feeling of cold steel in my hands and a few hundred pounds on my back. Actually, this does a pretty good job of summing it up. I like this one too. We tend to make fun of the guys who want to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. Eat like Nicole Richie and you'll reach your goal in no time.

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 09:27 PM #5 of 37
I do a bit of everything--powerlifting, olympic lifting, and bodybuilding. I want to be big, strong, balanced, and healthy. I love the feeling of cold steel in my hands and a few hundred pounds on my back. Actually, this does a pretty good job of summing it up. I like this one too. We tend to make fun of the guys who want to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. Eat like Nicole Richie and you'll reach your goal in no time.
Yeah, basically what you make fun of, that's what I want to look like.

I want to be lean but low body fat percentage.

I went from 193 to 135 (I'm 5'6") over the past couple months using an elliptical machine and low calorie diet.

I could care less about huge muscles, I just want to be able to go to the beach and not be embarrassed about fat rolls. (Plus any of the complications that come with being overweight).

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jan 9, 2007, 10:25 PM Local time: Jan 9, 2007, 10:25 PM #6 of 37
Are you the work out type who wants to be all ripped?
Yep! Going for definition over sheer size, as I don't have the genetics for lots of muscle mass. I love being able to take off my shirt and not feel embarassed, but I'm still not satisified with where I'm at now.

I'm a huge fan of bodyweight exercises. A mixture of that, a fair bit of running, and eating fat-free food is the ticket. That "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" fat-free 5 calorie spread is a savior. I can almost get that delicious butter flavor in my mashed potatoes and not screw with my fitness goals.

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 10:32 PM #7 of 37
I lift weights regularly. I train to be in shape but I don't want to be a wuss like these guys above me. (<3 Jazzflight. Congrats on the weight loss)
While I also don't have the genes to be a very large individual, I've managed to become well built through years of exercize. I'm not at my peak right now because of school but I think I can get it back fairly easily.

I try to train with weights 3 times a week and do cardio twice a week. For weight training, I rely on the big barbell movements. Some bodyweight exercizes like wide grip chinups are great but nothing beats the hypertrophic benefits of power movements like military press and sumo style deadlifts.

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Old Jan 9, 2007, 10:40 PM Local time: Jan 9, 2007, 08:40 PM #8 of 37
My goal is both weight-loss and muscle development, hence sticking to the 8-12 reps during resistance training. Other days I just do muscle strength (6 reps max).

My circuit involves training the bigger muscle groups (arms, back, thighs, chest, etc) then some cardio on the side. And a low-calorie lifestyle--virtually substituting softdrinks/sodas for water and eating less and less outside. Figured also that a non-stop exercise routine at least for 15-30 minutes helps greatly.

My aim is about 5 days per week gym time. The downside is that there's not enough equipment for say, preacher curls or lateral pulls or so on, at least here in our gym anyway.

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Old Jan 10, 2007, 12:10 AM Local time: Jan 9, 2007, 10:10 PM #9 of 37
I work out because if I don't, I'd be 10 pounds heavier than I am now. My body is just the type where whatever I put in my mouth will find its way onto my stomach or thighs.

So, it's either not eat or work out and since I like food and don't like starving myself, I work out. Yeah I guess it makes me healthy and shit like that but I'd still rather sit on my ass eating chips in front of the tv than running like a hamster on a treadmill.

I run and muscle train, usually my back and abs. I also used to swim but the pool at my gym is really disgusting, so I stopped that after a while.

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Old Jan 10, 2007, 05:16 AM Local time: Jan 10, 2007, 12:16 PM #10 of 37
I sometimes work out by lifting cans of coke and doing sit-ups. I know it's not optimal workout, but I really don't want to get TOO big, and my bad genetics don't allow me to do exercises like squats and deadlifts anway. Not everyone can be like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. :/

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Old Jan 10, 2007, 07:12 PM Local time: Jan 10, 2007, 06:12 PM #11 of 37
I do a bit of everything--powerlifting, olympic lifting, and bodybuilding. I want to be big, strong, balanced, and healthy. I love the feeling of cold steel in my hands and a few hundred pounds on my back. Actually, this does a pretty good job of summing it up. I like this one too. We tend to make fun of the guys who want to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. Eat like Nicole Richie and you'll reach your goal in no time.
Those links were priceless! I like the attitude you guys have here. I'm into the martial arts as well and it feels good to watch some kung-fu flick and say to myself "I could do that."

My girl isn't as pumped up as I am about a work out though. She cringes at the prospect of some pain. It wasn't always the case but I fear shes just did it to impress me when we first got together. Now its been a few years and shes starting to let herself go. Not that its all her fault but her attitude is different now.
Anybody here have some advice on how to inspire your woman without telling her shes uh, fat?
If not women how about you guys with homies who are just not as fired up as they used to be. What do you say?

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Old Jan 10, 2007, 07:17 PM Local time: Jan 10, 2007, 05:17 PM #12 of 37
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Anybody here have some advice on how to inspire your woman without telling her shes uh, fat?
I'm guessing you tried the gym so how about a weekly activity class, hopefully somewhere at your nearest community center (if there's one)?

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Old Jan 10, 2007, 07:31 PM Local time: Jan 10, 2007, 06:31 PM #13 of 37
I'm guessing you tried the gym so how about a weekly activity class, hopefully somewhere at your nearest community center (if there's one)?
Honestly I haven't tried a community center like the Y. Such a novel idea! Duh I should have thought of that one. Now the hard part, I gotta broach the subject.
See shes not totally lazy. We have an exercise bike in the basement that she gets on every once in a while. I think its because somewhere inside, the flame within hasn't gone out but its not really hot either.
We talk but when we go there she gets all mad and stuff. I know she doesn't like doing a work out with me cause she says "I'm a drill seargent".
Ooops my army experience comes out every once in a while.

If there are any ladies here, a little help PLEASE?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 02:33 AM Local time: Jan 11, 2007, 12:33 AM #14 of 37
My girl isn't as pumped up as I am about a work out though. She cringes at the prospect of some pain. It wasn't always the case but I fear shes just did it to impress me when we first got together. Now its been a few years and shes starting to let herself go. Not that its all her fault but her attitude is different now.
Anybody here have some advice on how to inspire your woman without telling her shes uh, fat?
If not women how about you guys with homies who are just not as fired up as they used to be. What do you say?
Personally I think if she doesn't like exercising and is "letting herself go", there's very little you can do about it without taking your relationship down will you.

Try to do more physical activities together, like hiking or tag football on weekends with friends, or just even going for a walk around the block. Until you tell her how you feel about her lack of exercising, you can only sneak it in when she's not suspecting.

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 10:25 AM Local time: Jan 11, 2007, 09:25 AM #15 of 37
I've never been one to go for big muscles, mostly because it would take a great deal to make my muscles grow like that and my metabolism work that way. I'm naturally very lean (6'2", 155lbs), and all I do to maintain it is make sure I walk to school and eat fairly healthy. I'd love to go to a gym, but am unwilling to spend the money, so my exercise is relegated to situps and pushups year-round, and running three mornings a week when there's no ice on the ground (ie in Utah, April to October).

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 10:44 AM #16 of 37
If I can get this done: http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

I'll be pretty happy with myself... running 5k now would bloody kill me... but if I could do it thrice a week - holy moley I'll be well on track to good health

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 10:48 AM Local time: Jan 11, 2007, 09:48 AM #17 of 37
I think running multiple 5ks now in one week would probably kill me, too, but it isn't too hard to work up to. When I was in high school I did cross country and we worked up to an average of about 6 miles a day (obviously sometimes more, sometimes less). Even the slightly- to fairly-overweight people were able to work into it. It was tough for them, I'm sure, but they did it. Just takes time and dedication. Can't give up on it for a week or you'll be back where you started.

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 11:37 AM #18 of 37
My girl isn't as pumped up as I am about a work out though. She cringes at the prospect of some pain. It wasn't always the case but I fear shes just did it to impress me when we first got together. Now its been a few years and shes starting to let herself go. Not that its all her fault but her attitude is different now.
Anybody here have some advice on how to inspire your woman without telling her shes uh, fat?
If not women how about you guys with homies who are just not as fired up as they used to be. What do you say?
Whatever you do, don't constantly drop what you believe to be subtle hints. I'd suggest talking to her openly and honestly about how you feel. Maybe if you can somehow make her understand how important fitness is to you, she'll get back into it. You could approach it from the angle of being able to spend more time doing things (working out) together if you think that would work better, but I see nothing wrong with simply telling her that you were more attracted to her physically when she was working out. Whatever you do, though, don't tell her she's getting fat. Unless your goal is to never be able to sleep with her again.

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 12:20 PM #19 of 37
Whatever you do, don't constantly drop what you believe to be subtle hints. I'd suggest talking to her openly and honestly about how you feel. Maybe if you can somehow make her understand how important fitness is to you, she'll get back into it. You could approach it from the angle of being able to spend more time doing things (working out) together if you think that would work better, but I see nothing wrong with simply telling her that you were more attracted to her physically when she was working out. Whatever you do, though, don't tell her she's getting fat. Unless your goal is to never be able to sleep with her again.
I agree.

I feel that a person has to decide for themselves that they want to lose weight. Otherwise:

1. They won't stick with the program.
2. They'll get depressed.
3. They'll hate whoever told them they needed to lose weight.

This is just based on my experience, where I simply decided to lose weight by myself, with no prodding by anyone else. In fact, my family kept saying "oh, but you weren't fat" but I was clearly overweight by BMI standards.

Sometimes, it just needs to happen out of the blue.

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 08:24 PM #20 of 37
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Yeah, basically what you make fun of, that's what I want to look like.

I want to be lean but low body fat percentage.

I went from 193 to 135 (I'm 5'6") over the past couple months using an elliptical machine and low calorie diet.
Losing 60 pounds in "the past couple months" is disgustingly unhealthy. What did you do starve yourself compeletly?

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 08:40 PM #21 of 37
Losing 60 pounds in "the past couple months" is disgustingly unhealthy. What did you do starve yourself compeletly?


I normally (before the diet) ate about 3000+ calories a day, just randomly snacking on candy and cake all the time, eating large amounts of fast food every day.

Starting from late May until early September, I changed my routine to:

1. 30-45 minutes of elliptical machine running.
2. 1200-1500 calories of food. Vegetables, high protein, no snacks.
3. Some very basic dumbbell lifting, starting from 5 pounds (I had no upper body strength, seriously), to 10, then 15, and now 20.
4. Vitamins everyday. One a Day Men's Health, Super Omega 3, Vitamin E, and Vitamin C.
5. Lots of water. I'm talking tons.

Lost about 3 pounds a week, felt great. Lost the man boobs, ass, and almost all of my stomach (still have a very little leftover skin on the lower stomach).

Got checked out by a doctor on Oct 30th, everything was fine.

As you can see, after I reached 145, I stopped the exercise routine and just kept a low calorie diet (1500-2000), and still was able to lose another 10 pounds over the course of a few months.

It was the fact that I was on summer break that I was able to dedicate so much free time to such a drastic change. Trust me, if you want to simply lose weight, that's the way to do it. As long as the 1500 calories are nutritional and not just junk food, you can stay healthy.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 12:06 PM Local time: Jan 12, 2007, 12:06 PM #22 of 37
When I get a gym pass, I go to the gymm three times a week and it usually involves running 1 mile, biking for 15 minutes and then working out on the muscles for 25 minutes. But, when I get busy with school and stuff, I tend to be lazier to go to the gym.... but now my friend wants to play squash again, so I will have to get another gym pass.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 06:23 PM #23 of 37
My goal is both weight-loss and muscle development, hence sticking to the 8-12 reps during resistance training. Other days I just do muscle strength (6 reps max).

My circuit involves training the bigger muscle groups (arms, back, thighs, chest, etc) then some cardio on the side. And a low-calorie lifestyle--virtually substituting softdrinks/sodas for water and eating less and less outside. Figured also that a non-stop exercise routine at least for 15-30 minutes helps greatly.

My aim is about 5 days per week gym time. The downside is that there's not enough equipment for say, preacher curls or lateral pulls or so on, at least here in our gym anyway.
Just some friendly advice: pick one or the other. You need a caloric surplus to build muscle and a caloric deficit to lose fat. So after the first few months of "newbie gains" you're going to have to do one at a time. You can get stronger (basically by improving the efficiency of your nervous system) without eating more than maintenance calories, but you're not going to get bigger. Even with no equipment, you should be able to do push-ups, pull-ups, and squats/lunges. If you have a barbell or a set of DBs up to, say, 100 lbs you can do damn near any exercise worth doing.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 10:23 PM #24 of 37
I try to work out as often as possible. I tend to work on 1-3 different body parts/day, such as biceps and shoulders on one day, plus I run for about 10 minutes before starting my workout. In addition, I play Ping-pong for an hour before running and about an hour after finishing. My only downside is that while being at University, I don't have a lot of food to eat because Im not a good cook and the fridge I have is pretty small, but I tend to eat as much as I can manage.

Anyway, my suggestions is that you should push yourself to your limits and eat as much as you can. I realized that after working out for about 1 1/2 years, my appetite has greatly increased, so be prepared to eat much more.

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 10:42 PM #25 of 37
i really wish i could be more fit. i always try diets && stuff but i'm too lazy to stay on them lol

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