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Old Dec 25, 2006, 03:37 PM #51 of 75
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I gotta disagree with you there. The shows brand of humor isnt something I enjoy. It seems that alot of shows that involve parody and satire are boring to me. Predictable and unoriginal. Especially in a show that beats you over the head with its references.
Morel Orel is certain to lack a lot of its intended "punch" if you're not overly familiar with the show it's parodying: "Davey & Goliath". The original was so wholesome and saccharine that it often became intolerable for being so unrealistic when superimposed upon everyday life. But its production was funded by the Lutherans during the 60s, so it was a direct attack against the reckless counterculture of the hippie generation.

Morel Orel is a wonderful mockery of Davey & Goliath. Sometimes the humor is subtle; sometimes it's like a ballpeen hammer between the eyes. Either way, it's well done and I rather enjoy the sarcasm employed. There's room for improvement but the show is still in its early stage. If allowed to continue, it will only get better.

(Incidentally, the people who made Davey & Goliath are also the people responsible for Gumby. I always laugh when I hear people talk about how dumb Davey & Goliath was because it was so preachy, but then turn around and rave about Gumby's wholesomeness.)

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Old Dec 25, 2006, 04:18 PM Local time: Dec 25, 2006, 02:18 PM #52 of 75
Foster's is basically the only cartoon I can watch nowadays that doesn't make me wonder how dumb kids are to enjoy the shitty programming around.

Because that series is fabulous, whether you want to admit it or not.

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Old Dec 25, 2006, 04:29 PM Local time: Dec 25, 2006, 06:59 PM #53 of 75
I happen to find this new show called Ruby Gloom is really fun. check it out: http://www.rubygloomtv.com/

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Old Dec 26, 2006, 06:12 AM Local time: Dec 26, 2006, 06:12 AM #54 of 75
I agree with those who have mentioned Foster's. I've been a cartoon fanatic for years, and I weep openly that the state of cartoons has been going downhill since around '97 for various reasons. Foster's is the only cartoon I can really stand to watch now, and it's one of the few that actually usually lasts the full 22 minutes. I can't really get into the cartoons that rely on segments because it seems like there is little time for the characters and stories to develop.

Adult shows like Family Guy and, particularly, Futurama, can be fun, but they tend to lack a certain something that "kiddie" cartoons used to have. IMO, most adult cartoons are just animated sitcoms that half the time could work almost as well in a live-action format. The cartoons I like have a greater sense of fantasy and lack that sense of realism that adult shows usually have. Futurama comes closest to meeting my fantasy needs.

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Old Dec 26, 2006, 09:51 PM #55 of 75
Foster's is a great show that is decently creative. An orphanage for imaginary friends. Bill and Mandy used to be very amusing but then it just got to overdoing it on toilet humor.

"Yes, that's the 3rd time this episode Billy's picked his nose..."

The thing I don't like about these kind of shows are those certain stupid character the animators seem to over do it on. Foster's has that stupid character Cheese and Grim has that green monster thing that always says "YES"

It was funny the first 3 times, but when you start making 30 second to 1 minute commercials with them slatting out their "catch phrases" you have a problem.

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Old Dec 26, 2006, 09:56 PM #56 of 75
For what it's worth, I think "Codename: Kids Next Door" is pretty good. The writers have avoided some of the usual pitfalls of children's programming by not letting trite, moral lessons get in the way of a good story. And the show has progressively canonized itself; past episodes have been known to dictate critical plot elements a year or two later. The universe in KND is self-contained in a clever way.

But really, as an illustrator, I love the artistry. It's so stylized and like nothing else on television (currently).

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Old Dec 27, 2006, 03:36 AM Local time: Dec 27, 2006, 10:36 AM #57 of 75
I've seen like two episodes of KND, and they were pretty shitty. All the characters were unlikeable and bland, I didn't notice anything special about the art style, and the whole premise was kind of dumb (though maybe I'd think it's way cool, if I was nine).

I agree that Foster's is the only recent American cartoon worth watching. Maybe there are some good lesser-known shows as well, but I just mostly watch old episodes of Dexter's Lab (the newer episodes are terrible though), Johnny Bravo and Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy on Cartoon Network.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Dec 27, 2006, 09:49 PM #58 of 75
Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy was great in its first few seasons, but its gotten kinda tired after they tried to make episodes that take place in winter, and during school.

Defeats the whole feel and purpose of the show.

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Old Dec 27, 2006, 11:13 PM #59 of 75
Ahh, I really like Avatar. Yes, it's kiddy and cheesy sometimes, but I find the characters rather fun and I do rather like the animation. It has the expressive style that I like about Eastern animation, but it has the fluidity that I like from Western animation.

Venture Bros. is also fun, though I fail lots at pop culture. It's messed up, but in many good ways. XD Pity the seasons are so short. It's also fun with the various episodes that are left somewhat... unresolved. I don't like that... but I do! Whut.

I somewhat like Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. It's cute and Bloo is such an ass. Why is he lovable?? He's a JERK. Ah-hahaha...

I somewhat like Fairly Oddparents too, but mostly for the random stuff that Cosmo shouts.

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Old Dec 27, 2006, 11:59 PM Local time: Dec 27, 2006, 06:59 PM #60 of 75
grim adventures of billy and mandy,venture brothers,family guy, boondocks...and thats about it for me...oh and futurama. Simpsons is good but i never seem to catch the show anymore.

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 01:36 AM Local time: Dec 28, 2006, 12:36 AM #61 of 75
Codename KND is a mixed bag. A lot of the humor is for younger kids, obviously, and the main characters aren't a strong point. However, it's got some hilarious villains, and has done quite a few good spoofs (many times of movies I would not expect the show's target audience to have seen). Furthermore, as Crash mentioned, it doesn't bother with teaching a moral; it goes as far as teaching kids to be disobedient under the right circumstances, or at least encourages them to think for themselves.

I've been thinking about it, and at least things aren't as bad as they were a handful of years ago - absolute crap like Rocket Power and Mucha Lucha are gone and probably won't be paralleled for years to come, and Cartoon Network doesn't show Scooby Doo for 10 hours a day anymore (which some may have considered a good thing, but I've never been able to stand it).

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 05:46 AM #62 of 75
Rocket Power is possibly the most insulting cartoon from the past decade. Kids, as a group, can be swayed easily enough, but they have to be pushed from behind into believing that something is cool. You can't grab a child's hand and drag him or her headfirst into an idea, else you're only going to be met with kicking and screaming.

That was the big flaw with Rocket Power: the producers tried to cram the "edginess" down kids' throats. Children are smarter than many adults will allow themselves to admit, and children know when they're being condescended to, which is basically what Rocket Power resorted to. Every episode spoon fed the same, tired out stories seen in every other Klasky/Csupo production (Rugrats; Aaaah! Real Monsters; Wild Thornberries), but with a big, ol' EXTREME sticker slapped on it, because "extreme" equals "cool", right? Right?

I suppose the stereotypical characters and weak gimmicks weren't enough though. (their clique was named "The Squids". What the hell is that about?) As each scene faded out, viewers were subjected to short, sudden bursts of "hip" buzzwords screamed by adolescent kids for no explicable reason, accompanied by bright, flashing colors meant to display the serious extremeness going on in Rocket Power. But the stuff that was yelled out was nonsensical at best, insulting at worst. "KICK IT!" "GNARLY!" "GAME OVER, DUDE!" Of course, none of these interludes had any bearing upon the plot whatsoever. They existed simply to reinforce the concept that extreme sports are totally in your face, therefore way awesome. Rebel against non-existent authority, kids!

I honestly never heard any good things about Rocket Power, not from anyone who saw it, had younger siblings who saw it, or even heard about the basic concept. The entire show was basically "Rugrats With Skateboards and Angst."

Nickelodeon never should've been able to recover from that debacle. Damn that Spongebob.

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 08:02 AM Local time: Dec 28, 2006, 10:32 AM #63 of 75
yeah, I agree. I thought rocket power was exceptionally bad. as well as the other one, As Told by Ginger

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 02:53 PM #64 of 75
South Park is consistently hilarious and remains the best animation on air. Aqua Teen Hunger Force, when I'm in the right mood, is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. It's a shame Fox kept The Simpsons instead of Futurama...I hope the revival of Futurama doesn't turn out like that of Family Guy.

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 03:52 PM Local time: Dec 28, 2006, 02:52 PM #65 of 75
(their clique was named "The Squids". What the hell is that about?)
If I remember correctly, "The Squid" was actually their derogatory nickname for the kid who wasn't as good at sports as the other three.

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 04:33 PM #66 of 75
South Park is consistently hilarious and remains the best animation on air.
South Park is still a good watch from time to time, but its becoming very tired. Its the same formula in every episode. Everyone is an overdramatic idiot while the kids are the cornerstone of sensibility. With interchangeable subject matter, your basically watching the same episode over and over again.

It used to be a cartoon with foul mouthed kids in crazy stories. Its now nothing more then a platform for whats current in politics and pop culture.

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Old Dec 28, 2006, 04:52 PM Local time: Dec 28, 2006, 02:52 PM #67 of 75
Rocket Power is possibly the most insulting cartoon from the past decade. Kids, as a group, can be swayed easily enough, but they have to be pushed from behind into believing that something is cool. You can't grab a child's hand and drag him or her headfirst into an idea, else you're only going to be met with kicking and screaming.

That was the big flaw with Rocket Power: the producers tried to cram the "edginess" down kids' throats. Children are smarter than many adults will allow themselves to admit, and children know when they're being condescended to, which is basically what Rocket Power resorted to. Every episode spoon fed the same, tired out stories seen in every other Klasky/Csupo production (Rugrats; Aaaah! Real Monsters; Wild Thornberries), but with a big, ol' EXTREME sticker slapped on it, because "extreme" equals "cool", right? Right?

I suppose the stereotypical characters and weak gimmicks weren't enough though. (their clique was named "The Squids". What the hell is that about?) As each scene faded out, viewers were subjected to short, sudden bursts of "hip" buzzwords screamed by adolescent kids for no explicable reason, accompanied by bright, flashing colors meant to display the serious extremeness going on in Rocket Power. But the stuff that was yelled out was nonsensical at best, insulting at worst. "KICK IT!" "GNARLY!" "GAME OVER, DUDE!" Of course, none of these interludes had any bearing upon the plot whatsoever. They existed simply to reinforce the concept that extreme sports are totally in your face, therefore way awesome. Rebel against non-existent authority, kids!

I honestly never heard any good things about Rocket Power, not from anyone who saw it, had younger siblings who saw it, or even heard about the basic concept. The entire show was basically "Rugrats With Skateboards and Angst."

Nickelodeon never should've been able to recover from that debacle. Damn that Spongebob.
Now that is something I can definately agree with you on. They got rid of stuff like Rocko's Modern Life and Ren and Stimpy for that crappy ass cartoon. Shameful.

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 03:57 AM #68 of 75
I'm a huge fan of Avatar: The Last Bender (See icon and signature). I personally love the story/story-telling, characters, and animation. There's obviously been a ton of research and dedication into this series, and it really shows. I could see how some people wouldn't like it (the humor usually doesn't make me laugh, but hey, it IS a kid's show), but personally, I think it's arguably the best running cartoon.

Venture Bros., from what I've seen, is fucking hilarious. It reminds me a bit of Johnny Quest, only much funnier and disturbing. The Monarch (?) villian is the best~

And South Park will always have a spot in my heart; it's becoming a bit dull, but I still enjoy its quirky and crude humor.

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 04:17 AM Local time: Dec 29, 2006, 04:17 AM #69 of 75
The Venture Brothers is a parody of the late 60's/70's teen adventure genre of books and cartoons, so yes there are parts of it that will resemble Johnny Quest. Did you even watch cartoons before 4 years ago?

KND is ok. I remember there was an episode where they collaborated with GWAR to make Grandmama-stuff'ems themed versions of The Private Pain of Techno Destructo and Gor-Gor. Instant cool points in my book, xInfinity.

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 05:05 AM #70 of 75
The Venture Brothers is a parody of the late 60's/70's teen adventure genre of books and cartoons, so yes there are parts of it that will resemble Johnny Quest. Did you even watch cartoons before 4 years ago?
=/ Was that question sarcastic? (If not, then yes, I have watched cartoons before 4 years ago)

Anyways, the newest version of Batman seems alright. I haven't watched a lot of episodes, but I like how they portrayed Bruce Wayne and whatnot. It doesn't compare to the '90s Batman cartoon, or Batman Beyond though.

Oh! Courage the Cowardly Dog is AMAZING, though I'm not sure if it's still running.

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 01:34 PM Local time: Dec 29, 2006, 01:34 PM #71 of 75
I don't like the way they've "modernized" the character designs for The Batman's villains, but that aside, The Batman still has some damn good writing. I can't believe they aired the Game Master episode. That shit was gold.

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 02:09 PM Local time: Dec 29, 2006, 12:09 PM #72 of 75
I somewhat like Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. It's cute and Bloo is such an ass. Why is he lovable?? He's a JERK. Ah-hahaha...

I somewhat like Fairly Oddparents too, but mostly for the random stuff that Cosmo shouts.
<3 Fairly Oddparents for this.

But OMG: Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends is crazy ridiculous. My brother just showed me some clips from YouTube, and now I kinda watch the show whenever I get the chance. I enjoy it a lot. "CHEESE!" =p

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 09:43 PM #73 of 75
Hey all, thanks for the suggestions, I'll be sure to check some of them out.

On the subject of cartoons, I've got this old cartoon in my head, maybe someone can help me figure out what it is.

All I remember that it was an 80s cartoon which featured 3 huge monsters. One of them was named Decomposer who had protruding rib cage which he could open and anything he stuck inside would decompose. Another was a huge slimy green thing with tentacles for hands. The last one I don't remember. I actually tried a google search and came up with nothing. If anyone can remember the title it would be great.

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Old Jan 10, 2007, 10:36 AM Local time: Jan 10, 2007, 07:36 AM #74 of 75
I watched one episode of Avatar and I found it to be remarkably simple. It's obviously a kids show in that regard. I was able to point out the BIG TWIST a minute into the episode. It's still not an excuse, because if Scooby Doo can manage to keep me mildly surprised at whodunnitt for several of it's episodes, then I'm sure Avatar--which seems to be more serious that Scooby Doo would ever aspire too--could step up their A-Game.
I don't think what makes Avatar good involves in the plot twists, and season 2 had alot of good twists that keeps going on and on, and it always occure right at the end of the episodes for cliffhangers sake, and just when you think they saved the day, something crappy happens either right at the end of the episode, or at the beginning of the next one. Let's just say Season 2 isnt exactly a season that was tied up in a neat bow at the end.

You have to remember a fact that new shows always end their season one without a major cliffhanger and that most things tie up well, with somethings that can lead to a 2nd season. Avatar got a 2nd season and it did what most shows will do in its 2nd season by pilling it up with twists and turns that caused everything to fall apart for the characters by the end of it, which Nick almost has to make sure it has a season 3. You start with a postive light on the story, THEN you make things go downhill for the characters after season 2 to keep making people hooked.

And what makes Avatar different from regular cartoons like Spongebob or Scooby is its continuing developing story and most importantly, character development, Avatar has probably one of the strongest character developments I've ever seen in a animated show, its either on par or way beyond what Justice League or Teen Titans has ever done. Just look at Zuko's development, and you can see they created a complex character who is morally ambiguous. You also have characters like Azula who is one of the few competant villains in animated show history.(Justice League had its share of villians who dont think things through) She takes no chances, shes manipulating and persuasive and an amazing deadly fighter.

Avatar is not a show that you can just watch an episode and expected to be blown away (althought my boyfriend was very impressed by the fight scenes in season 2 finale, and its now a recruited fan), its like trying to watch your first 24 episode in mid season. If the show does turn out to be not your cup of tea, then alright we all have different tastes. But basing on an entire solid show with good writing and solid characters with intense developments, choreograph scenes that rival Bebop, great animation and then compare that to of all things, Scooby Doo, its just silly. Its like comparing Ghost in a shell with Naruto or something.

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Old Jan 10, 2007, 11:41 AM #75 of 75
though all the classics were great the few good ones on now are still pretty good. even some of the newer ones such as Dexters laboratory. and family guy was funny for awhile but then they started doing reruns like mad. I am looking forward to the new futurama though. and I don't know if anyone ever watched this show, but Delta State was a pretty good show.

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