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[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread
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Conan-the-3rd
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Old Nov 11, 2006, 02:08 PM Local time: Nov 11, 2006, 08:08 PM #2051 of 3592
Having seen all the "look at us press guys, we got ourselves a ps3!" videos, I'm not impressed with the Bios menu. It's an over glorified PSP bios menu. I was expecting something more...well, next gen.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
All I'm saying is that if the laptops of the future are not in the
shape of chibi genie girls then I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
JJAB91
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Old Nov 11, 2006, 03:06 PM #2052 of 3592
OMG!!!! did you here the news the PS3 is coming out Nov.17 but there
deleying all the games how stupid!

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Old Nov 11, 2006, 03:32 PM #2053 of 3592
Yeah, I don't want you in this thread anymore.

I was speaking idiomatically.
FatsDomino
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Conan-the-3rd
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Old Nov 11, 2006, 03:41 PM Local time: Nov 11, 2006, 09:41 PM #2054 of 3592
Originally Posted by JJAB91
OMG!!!! did you here the news the PS3 is coming out Nov.17 but there deleying all the games how stupid!
Try being a Britt. No Solid release date after the "World Wide launch" lie (After fact, it was penned for "March" and now it's "Whenever"), us paying at least 30% above the infamous $599 mark...the alleged rumours that we're not getting the low end model (though nothing solid has come of that ether)...relay, I honestly don't see the grounds for your complaint.

Sonic is getting delayed though, which kinda sucks but I'm in two ways about that.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
All I'm saying is that if the laptops of the future are not in the
shape of chibi genie girls then I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

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Soldier
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Old Nov 11, 2006, 04:12 PM #2055 of 3592
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Have their been any reports of someone swapping the hard drives for a bigger capacity, third-party unit yet? IGN said they were working on it, but have yet to actually do it.

It seems easy enough to open the system from those pics, so I assume Sony won't put that "Void if Removed" sticker on it like they had on the PS2.
I thought exchanging hard drives was supposed to be a snap (a small slot to open the port)? If it involves opening the whole system up, then I'm not sure I want to try it. It's probably too late to change my preorder to the $600 model, though I'm still debating if I should even bother, since higher capacity hard drives can be found for a cheaper price, and I already have a wireless ethernet bridge.

EDIT: While trying out the Wii at Gamestop, I got confirmation that it's too late to switch systems, but I'm fine with the $500 model. One thing I did learn, though, is that the only special they're offering is that you get $10 off X-Men: The Last Stand for Blu Ray if you buy it along with the system. A pretty good deal, but I couldn't bring myself to spend money on the most disappointing movie of this year. If it was Black Hawk Down or something better, I'd probably take them up on the offer.

Also interesting is that they actually have finished, packaged PS3 games for sale now. The guy showed me the sealed cases for Tony Hawk and Ultimate Alliance. Pretty cool, though I don't quite like the clear Blu Ray border on the top. I was hoping they'd go for the black color scheme to match the system.

FELIPE NO

Last edited by Soldier; Nov 11, 2006 at 05:31 PM.
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Old Nov 11, 2006, 06:26 PM #2056 of 3592
I visited my local Best Buy (after visiting GameStop and EB Games, as an interesting side note) and there it was: the PS3 kiosk. Neither of the major gaming places had it. I discovered a kid playing some racing game (Motor-something or other). After watching him botch the controls (seriously, kids need more education) he handed the control over to me and I promptly won a race and handed off to the next putz in line. A couple of times I heard kids say, "Wow! Look at the graphics!" and I groaned to myself a little.

The graphics are good, yeah, OK, natural progression of computers and graphics told us we knew this would happen. Frankly, I was disappointed. Oh boy! Look at all the parts when my car explodes! They intentionally slow this part down to show you all the parts! Then your car respawns and the framerate is still kinda choppy while you're racing, even if you've got no one in front of you. I expect/require 60 FPS at this point in the gaming cycle and this game doesn't have it. Otherwise it was a fairly generic racing game; no weapons, no powerups, just you, some ATVs, boosting and some decent graphics.

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Old Nov 11, 2006, 06:29 PM #2057 of 3592
I felt about the same when I tried Excitetrucks today. In this case though, I guess the prettier generic racer wins out of the two. I'll probably hit my nearest Best Buy tommorow to see if they have the PS3 set up. But I'll be especially paying attention to Sunday's ads, to see if any specials or lower prices occur for the launch games.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Nov 11, 2006, 06:33 PM Local time: Nov 11, 2006, 06:33 PM #2058 of 3592
Originally Posted by Conan-the-3rd
Having seen all the "look at us press guys, we got ourselves a ps3!" videos, I'm not impressed with the Bios menu. It's an over glorified PSP bios menu. I was expecting something more...well, next gen.
This is gonna come off as asshole-ish, but what'd you expect? There have been screenshots of the bios for ages now -- it's Sony's standard stuff. It's not so much a glorified PSP bios, but the standard they use and the easiest one to work with.

Quite frankly, I don't think too many people are gonna be disappointed with the XMB (?) interface, so it's easy, user-friendly, and functional. Plus, it doesn't have "the blades."

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Old Nov 11, 2006, 06:51 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 02:51 AM #2059 of 3592
Originally Posted by Elixir


Hey look, more games with Resident Evil control schemes.
I just thought I'd just go and ask what the earth are you talking about? The tank in Resistance controls exactly like the scorpion tank in Halo, you point a direction and the tank drives there, allowing you to shoot while moving, completely unlike RE's stop and aim system (which I might add worked well enough with the pacing).

Unless of course you were actually trying a "RE has tank controls geddit" joke, in which case ::tumbleweed::


As for the PS3 HDD, I was told at work that there were already blog entries of people switching their hard drives to a 120GB one, but I have yet to see one. I seriously doubt opening the PS3 will be allowed (still going to void your warranty), but for HDD exchange you won't need it anyway since you remove it from the side.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Nov 11, 2006, 06:56 PM #2060 of 3592
Good, no need to open up the whole damn system then. All I have to do is wait a bit for everyone to try the different kind of drives, and then purchase whichever one people recommend the most (and at a good price).

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Old Nov 12, 2006, 10:25 AM Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 03:25 PM #2061 of 3592
This article says you can switch the HD easily, and aparently the instructions are in the manual.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4911

I was speaking idiomatically.
Metal Sphere
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 12:18 PM #2062 of 3592
Originally Posted by Qwarky
As for the PS3 HDD, I was told at work that there were already blog entries of people switching their hard drives to a 120GB one, but I have yet to see one. I seriously doubt opening the PS3 will be allowed (still going to void your warranty), but for HDD exchange you won't need it anyway since you remove it from the side.
Well, looks like those people were right as mentioned above. Heck, there's even some connecting 3.5" drives to the machine. In the link above there's already mod talk about getting it to work with standard drives.



Here's some additional news in regards to the PS3's Blu-Ray playback for those interested. The machine apparently runs near-silent according to the folks over at AVS, and its PQ (picture quality) surpasses that of another BR player. He has more impressions but I'll just quote the movie playback bits:

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also i tested today the samsung player with the ps3 with the samsumg 46 inch plasma player we have at work. and i can tell you the ps3 picture quality is far better then the samsung. i am truelly surprised. remeber 8th below is soft looking. well playing the movie with the ps3 it totall renders the soft image away. and show a very natural movie display.not that it will be raor sharp. but natural looking image. how i would expect the movie to look like. the movie picture i was hoping to see.
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Dinosaurs. ( USA Version ) remember how soft this movie looked. Fear no more the PS3 is here and i have to say.incredible! i mean seriously. the picture quality is so much better now. when i am right infront of the tv. it looks simply perfect. so natural as this picture looks. the softness it is gone. the dark scenes looks perfect. however when i move left or right from the tv. it shows the picture softer. but when i am standing right infront of it. it is perfect. this is how i wanted to experience this kind of movie.
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Lethal Weapon ( USA ) VC-1 encoded. another movie like dinosaurs that was soft looking.

the beginning. specially there picture looks soft and colors are kinda washed out, after that it gets a whole lot better

it shows 5.1 channel english 48 khz and vc-1 encoded bitrate going from 18 till 25 mps.

around the 30 minute mark the quality really shines. it shows now a very natural color. same as dinosaurs and 8th below. the softness is gone. but only when you watch it right infront of the tv. if you go little bit left or right it shows a more softer image.
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also 1 more thig. if you have a dvi connection on your tv only. no problem.

just buy a full pins cable that go from hdmi to dvi. connect the hdmi cable to ps3 then connect it to dvi on your tv. power on monitor and press the poweron button 5 seconds and it works. well at least for me
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also if you hold the PS button on your joypad for 2 seconds while playing a movie you can chose between contine movie or go back to main menu of the ps3. if you hold the PS button for 5 seconds. you go to menu where you can chose shutdown system or change controller input.

also the PS3 is dead silent. i havent experienced any system like this that is this silent. there is no difference if it is powered on. or powered off.(EDIT:ZOMG!)
Source

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.

Last edited by Metal Sphere; Nov 12, 2006 at 12:28 PM.
Cobalt Katze
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 02:08 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 11:08 AM #2063 of 3592
There's a potential issue I'm hearing about... It was brought up by Jonnyram over on GAF, which is that apparently you can only use one of the three outputs on the system at once. That is to say, if you use HDMI, you use that only. That's a big problem for me, considering that I always hook up my sound outputs to a mixer that leads to my speakers. I honestly had no idea HDMI contained sound data as well, so considering that my monitor has no speakers, I honestly don't know how I'm going to handle hooking up sound while still keeping the awesome resolution...

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Old Nov 12, 2006, 02:17 PM #2064 of 3592
I kind of doubt this will be the case, or at least if you use a combination of HDMI and the digital output for home theaters. Even if this was the case, a firmware update should be able to fix something like that.

Well, I went through the Sunday ads, but no specials on any of the games. They all sell for $59.99 and most are all available the day of the sytem. I guess I'll head to Gamestop and reserve Resistence.

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Metal Sphere
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 03:25 PM #2065 of 3592
Originally Posted by Cobalt Katze
There's a potential issue I'm hearing about... It was brought up by Jonnyram over on GAF, which is that apparently you can only use one of the three outputs on the system at once. That is to say, if you use HDMI, you use that only. That's a big problem for me, considering that I always hook up my sound outputs to a mixer that leads to my speakers. I honestly had no idea HDMI contained sound data as well, so considering that my monitor has no speakers, I honestly don't know how I'm going to handle hooking up sound while still keeping the awesome resolution...
It's already been covered elsewhere, but the machine allows for a few Audio + Video output combinations. Like SOLDIER said, you'll likely be able to have HDMI handling the video and the optical out going to your receiver.

Edit: Heh, browsing through GAF's HDTV thread, one of the members (CrazyMoogle) mentioned the audio/video routed through different outputs.
Originally Posted by CrazyMoogle
Originally Posted by Flynn
If I want to use HDMI out from my PS3 and the cable goes straight to my monitor what's the option for getting the audio to my receiver?
Audio is a seperate option on PS3, you can set it to route through:

HDMI
TOSLINK (plug in a digital optical cable in addition to the HDMI)
analog (plug in the normal AV cables to use the audio plugs in addition to the HDMI)
Source

In some minor news, the console supports HDMI 1.3 (or is it 1.3a), even though there are few HDTVs out there that can take advantage of this. Not to mention the complete lack of content using DeepColor.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.

Last edited by Metal Sphere; Nov 12, 2006 at 03:32 PM.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 03:58 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 11:58 PM #2066 of 3592
Originally Posted by Cobalt Katze
There's a potential issue I'm hearing about... It was brought up by Jonnyram over on GAF, which is that apparently you can only use one of the three outputs on the system at once. That is to say, if you use HDMI, you use that only. That's a big problem for me, considering that I always hook up my sound outputs to a mixer that leads to my speakers. I honestly had no idea HDMI contained sound data as well, so considering that my monitor has no speakers, I honestly don't know how I'm going to handle hooking up sound while still keeping the awesome resolution...
Well, I was helping out at Digiexpo and for the stage presentations we had the picture come through HDMI and sound from the AV port. Since there are separate settings for video and sound output, it would make no sense to not allow multiple outputs at once.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Nov 12, 2006, 06:35 PM #2067 of 3592
A bigger issue I'm more concerned about is over wireless internet devices. Since I reserved the $500 model, that means no wi fi for me, since I already use the following for online gaming for my PS2.

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-WGA11B...8&s=videogames

It should work the same for PS3, though a confirmation would be nice.

Also, I stopped by my Gamestop again to reserve Resistence. I'll be picking up both the system and game come this Friday. Fun times ahead.

Spoiler:
The Wii kiosk broke. Either that or someone tripped over the cord ("No AV Signal")


This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
SouthJag
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 07:17 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 07:17 PM #2068 of 3592
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Spoiler:
The Wii kiosk broke. Either that or someone tripped over the cord ("No AV Signal")
Spoiler:
I'll probably "break" our Wii kiosk the same way as whatever happened to that one. Nothing against the Wii, it's just that I can imagine how fucking packed the store will be once we get a new next-gen kiosk in, be it PS3 or Wii. Hell, they still gather around our near-defunct 360.


I reserved the $500 PS3 as well, Soldier, but then again taking a console online isn't a huge thing for me. I'll eventually do it, and when that time comes I'll buy the wireless network adapter for it. Until then, it's offline gaming for me.

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Cobalt Katze
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 08:44 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 05:44 PM #2069 of 3592
In reply to the folks that pointed out the sound solutions, thank you so much

I was totally freaking for a while last night while tired. I'm glad I don't have anything to worry about.

Problem solved, hype back in action

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Old Nov 12, 2006, 08:47 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 10:47 PM #2070 of 3592
As Friday comes closer, the more I dread the date. I was unable to pre-order the damned PS3, and lines of nerds will be packed at the local Circuit Cities and Best Buys, hampering my chances of getting one. Yes, people are actually going to be blowing obscene proportions of money for PS3's online, as they already are; and you guys are going to post pictures of unboxing it. God Damnit.

On a lighter note, I visited a few stores this weekend and no one had a single kiosk set up. Kind of dissapointing really, I was hoping to check out resistance, and see what the Wii's control scheme will be all about.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 08:57 PM #2071 of 3592
so many were pre-orded mainly for selling it to the japs or europeans for really high prices on e-bay,my math teachers brother freind said he's buying the one's on the internet right now and pre-orded one too and plans to sell them for more money,i warned him about what e-bay is doing and how hard it is going to be just to find one,so he didnt do it.


500,000 units across the U.S.A....the best way to get one IS pre-order cause its gonna be hella-hard to find one

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Old Nov 12, 2006, 09:49 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 11:49 PM #2072 of 3592
This is going to be such a trainwreck with Sony. Honestly, all 500,000 units will sell out the day of launch. I cannot forsee any other possibility. And this will only mean that it will be worse than the PS2 launch. Seriously, I think I got my PS2 after calling all my local stores maybe 4 months after launch.

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Love it.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 01:19 AM #2073 of 3592
Does anyone think this will work? I cooked up a little plan with some buddies so I can get the PS3 without waiting long at all. I have like 6 or so people and we were going to rotate every couple hours. I'm extreme anti-camping, but in all I wouldn't be out there all told for nearly as much as most people.

Anyone think it would work? I don't see why not, unless I'm missing something.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 02:05 AM Local time: Nov 13, 2006, 12:05 AM #2074 of 3592
So i'm planning to camp out on Thrursday afteroon ^_^''

I wonder what my odds are? How many of you plan to camp out
earlier than thursday?

There's nowhere I can't reach.
DragoonKain
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 02:16 AM #2075 of 3592
That should be plenty early. I'm not one to be politically correct, so I'll just call it how I see it. Anyone who waits out there all the way up on wednesday is a loser. I have more respect for people than that so I assume few if any will start out on wednesday.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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