ipod music transefer help

For those who have ipods, what do you use to extract your music from your ipod with?
I was using an unknown version of winamp with the plug in, then eventually updated winamp and soon afterwards, everything was erased from my ipod.

http://www.slolane.org/archives/2006...s_ipod_pl.html
^theres the reason

Some of the signs that the new version of winamp was messing up my ipod was when I would connect it to itunes, then itunes would start scanning every song testing its volume or something. I thought it was just some useless scan til I disconnected in the middle of scanning and found out my ipod was erased cleanly.
Anyway, I did most of what the site I posted above said, and still my ipod did that irregular scan which scares me because I really dont feel doing the long tdious task of ripping cds again. Whats bothering me is that when I used the unknown version of winamp, everything was perfect, there was no scanning or bugs or glitches, it was perfectly smooth.

So in short, which version of winamp do you use to extract songs?
Ive also heard that foobar might be better, but Im not too informed about that.
Any help or suggestions is appreciated, thanks in advance.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Wait, you stored all your music only on the iPod? Why would you need to re-rip all your CDs?

It SOUNDS like iTunes was just doing a Sound Check scan? Or maybe a gapless scan? Either way, I don't think it's "IRREGULAR." Did you hit the little X button next to the progress bar when it was running? I think it's something iTunes does when an iPod is connected that Winamp doesn't, and then you yanked it out in the middle of a process. And you were SURPRISED when it was corrupted?

Which gen iPod do you have?

In the end, you're using an iPod with an unsupported (by Apple) user-created plugin for a third-party program. If it fucks up, that's kind of on YOU, and I wouldn't act so surprised. But, a little more information (and a little less conjecture on your part) would be helpful.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I have a 5th gen 60 gig, and my computer only has a 40g hd, thats why I manually update .
Its fine now, but I imagine that when extracting stuff using winamp, as soon as I open up with itunes, its gonna scan and check ("determinig song volume", I think the scan says) and I just pulled it out a while back cause I didnt feel like waiting 2 hours for it to finish and I thought when I had the time to plug it back in it wouldve picked up where it left off and finish. I say its irregular cause its a scan Ive rarely seen, and Ive owned an ipod for about 2 years.

And your being a bit harsh now =/, technically your right, but winamp had no warning for its plug in. And who only uses the programs that comes bundled with?

AND TELL YOUR PEOPLE ITUNES SUCKS
=P

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iTunes is great. I love it. Especially version 7. So no, I won't.

And besides, "just pulling out" any USB mounted device is asking for trouble. You should always go through the safely disconnect thing first.

And finally, the iPod isn't meant to be a storage device for music, it's meant to be a portable music player. You really should get a larger hard drive to put in your computer. I mean, think about it—the 1.8" drive in your iPod is not meant to be used constantly, as it is when it's plugged into your PC. It's meant to spin up every once in a while to fill the memory cache for playback portably. If you drop the iPod while its hard drive is spun up, you might kill the drive, and then you lose everything you have. Not a good situation.

In any event, I'm chalking this up to user error: you didn't know how to cancel the process in iTunes (which you can do, a little x in a circle will appear in the "LCD" area whenever an ongoing process engages, which you can click to stop that process), and it sounds like you just yanked out the dock cable while it was mounted and processing. Both of these are Bad™ things to do.

One way to disable that "determining song volume" thing is to turn off Sound Check in iTunes' preferences.

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Originally Posted by killmoms

iTunes is great. I love it. Especially version 7. So no, I won't.

::noone's surprised::

Also, iTunes 7 is universally deemed as "fucking terrible" by everyone in the portion of the computing world that actually matters and is cared about (which is the portion Apple doesn't care about.)

I was speaking idiomatically.

I personally don't like iTunes 7 (runs slow as fuck on my computer, retardedly wants to check gapless playback when I don't even use it - no option to stop it besides clicking the 'x' and hogs memory like a raped Firefox left open over the span of a month) even though I use it anyway because I like to stay updated - although that's not what the OP asked XD

I've used YamiPod in the past. It's a decent program - free, not cluttered with ads and shit, and doesn't run slow - but it did screw up my 4th Gen once (though, that was also because of several other things on the iPod, such as Linux).

Also, like killmoms pointed out, you shouldn't ever just "pull out" anything USB from your computer. There's a reason for that 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in your Taskbar. >:] As for storage...that's what I'm partially using my 4th Gen for, but only because I have 90% of my music on my 30GB 5th Gen (which is almost out of space ;_; ) so it's not a big deal.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Sosei

I personally don't like iTunes 7 (runs slow as fuck on my computer, retardedly wants to check gapless playback when I don't even use it - no option to stop it besides clicking the 'x' and hogs memory like a raped Firefox left open over the span of a month) even though I use it anyway because I like to stay updated - although that's not what the OP asked XD

I am surprised there's no option to turn off gapless (just checked for it myself)... then again, considering it's something so many people seemed to bitch REALLY LOUDLY about (especially here), I guess I'm not entirely surprised. In any event, that's a one-time process, which checks your library for gapless information. From then on it'll just do it real quick as you import or add stuff. And, I guess it'd hog memory if you used CoverFlow all the time, but that shit's just fucking logic. I've had it open for a couple weeks now, and it's chilling at 40MB, so. Have you gotten the 7.0.1 update? I heard that resolved a number of hitchy/memory consuming behaviors on the Windows side for a number of people.

Merv Burger: Typical elitist Windows user bullshit. I'm not sure I should expect anything more from you, since you're clearly out for blood whenever I post anyway. EARTH TO YOU: You are not who matters in the Windows world. You are a tiny portion of the computer using public. The massive, overwhelming population of computer users knows far less than you. They don't care about memory usage (which is retarded to get one's panties in a wad about considering how cheap and plentiful RAM is these days) or have some huge anti-Apple/QuickTime/iTunes bias. They use what's easy and provides a level of functionality they need. They neither know nor care about esoteric formats like OGG or FLAC or APE or whatnot. So, you can use whatever you like, that's great. But I don't understand your militant need to hate everything I like. In sum: Go fuck yourself.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by killmoms

I am surprised there's no option to turn off gapless (just checked for it myself)... then again, considering it's something so many people seemed to bitch REALLY LOUDLY about (especially here), I guess I'm not entirely surprised. In any event, that's a one-time process, which checks your library for gapless information. From then on it'll just do it real quick as you import or add stuff. And, I guess it'd hog memory if you used CoverFlow all the time, but that shit's just fucking logic. I've had it open for a couple weeks now, and it's chilling at 40MB, so. Have you gotten the 7.0.1 update? I heard that resolved a number of hitchy/memory consuming behaviors on the Windows side for a number of people.

I got it yesterday, actually. The update, from start to finish, took about an hour. An hour. I've nearly installed SUSE Linux sooner than that. But putting that aside, I haven't given it much time to see if there's a noticeable difference (I was irritated enough to begin with). I have nothing special running on iTunes whatsoever - in fact, if I knew there was a 100% stable alternative to it, I wouldn't use it - and even though it hangs at about 40/50MB, it still slows the rest of my system down (tabbing over to other windows, for example, becomes an exercise in Zen-like patience). I may have only 512MB of RAM, but c'mon now. XD

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Just the update took an hour? By itself? ...Jesus fuck, man, what have you done to your computer?! That's WAY outside what I'd consider normal.

Well, even I wouldn't run a machine with less than a GB these days, if only because the combined weight of everything I want to do at once takes more than that to be comfortable (or, on occasion, the weight of the ONE thing I need to do). One thing that I find helps is closing the iTunes window but leaving iTunes running. I guess I don't know if you can do that in Windows. Then again, I've got global hotkeys set up for play/pause/next/prev, so...

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Sorry for the bump, but though I appreciate your help, Id prefer something that works with winamp or foobar.

So far, it seems any winamp version before 5.3 does the trick, but Id just like some reassurance.

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Originally Posted by Darsh

Sorry for the bump, but though I appreciate your help, Id prefer something that works with winamp or foobar.

So far, it seems any winamp version before 5.3 does the trick, but Id just like some reassurance.

This is something I found for foobar2000, but just like everything else (that isn't iTunes) it's at your own risk to use.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I am confused by one thing: why is it Winamp's fault that your iPod got screwed up, when it was due to a third party plugin?

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Originally Posted by Bigblah

I am confused by one thing: why is it Winamp's fault that your iPod got screwed up, when it was due to a third party plugin?

I didnt say it was directly winamps fault, it was a combination of things, including me fucking up =/, I already mentioned that when I said killmoms was right about me being careless.

also, thanks sosei

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Just thought that I'd chime in that iTunes is really quite a great program... if you are running OSX.

Let's face it though, QT and iTunes SUCK on Windows PC. They are great programs when in an efficient OS, but in Windows they bog down. I shouldn't be so hard on QT, but I run QT in MPC because the regular QT is just not good. The whole iTuneshelper and iPodService processes annoy the hell out us Windows users.

But that all said, on my MacBook Pro, I couldn't be happier with both QT and iTunes. Beautiful programs.

IMHO, running QT and iTunes on Windows would be like trying to run WindowsMediaPlayer in OSX :doh: !!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Anyone know what program I should use? I just lost over 5k songs from my PC, but it's still on my iPod. But if I update my iPod with new songs, it will just whipe the whole damm 5k++ songs T_T, any suggestions?

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Taegueki

Anyone know what program I should use? I just lost over 5k songs from my PC, but it's still on my iPod. But if I update my iPod with new songs, it will just whipe the whole damm 5k++ songs T_T, any suggestions?

Try to transfer them back via YamiPod?

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All I want to say is "I love you!"

Jam it back in, in the dark.

is there any program that can do background transcoding?

i've got ALL sorts of music files (APE, FLAC, MPC, OGG, TTA, etc) and it'd be troublesome to manually transcode each file before uploaded to the shuffle

i need something that i can practically right click "SEND TO IPOD" and not worry about what type of file it is!

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