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Old Oct 14, 2006, 03:47 PM Local time: Oct 14, 2006, 02:47 PM #176 of 231
Also because an order quota must be met to get certain variants. I think it was 75 copies for 1 sketch variant and 18 or 24 copies for the Turner variant.

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Old Oct 14, 2006, 03:51 PM #177 of 231
Isn't issue #5 when they make the variants normal priced and offer a 50/50 split?

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Old Oct 22, 2006, 10:23 PM Local time: Oct 22, 2006, 10:23 PM #178 of 231
A thing writen about Civil War in the forums at Newsarama.com:

JOURNEY INTO COMICS: CIVIL WONDERINGS
by Michael San Giacomo

Speaking of Marvel’s Civil War, (and who isn’t?) I can’t wait to see how writer Mark Millar and artist Steve McNiven manage to end this series has been tearing the heart out of the Marvel Universe most of the year.

The superhero community is split in two. Iron Man and Reed Richards lead the pro registration faction while Captain America leads the freedom fighters.

Issue four was the turning point when one of Cap’s crew is killed in a battle. Okay, it was Black Goliath, or Giant-Man, or whatever Bill Foster was calling himself these days, not exactly a name player.

But he was one of Hank Pym’s best friends, as Hank himself pointed out. So how much longer will Hank Pym (Yellowjacket, Giant-Man or whatever he’s calling himself these days) stick with Iron Man?

And isn’t this whole thing getting a little sick?

When it’s all over, I wonder how any of these guys ever trust each other again?

Is it possible that the future of Marvel superheroes will truly be changed forever? Will no one ever trust Iron Man and Reed again? I mean, how could they?

Don’t I ask a lot of questions for a guy from Cleveland?

The only out I can see to get things back to where they were is either by mind control (which is certainly possible) or some larger scheme. Is everyone who they say they are - not just the heroes but those who are motivating the activity as well? After all, it doesn't take too much of a criminal mind to realize that an event like what was shown in Civil War #1, well executed, could turn public opinion against the good guys.

So gang, if - and still, it’s a big if - someone is doing the deed, who go you think is pulling the mental strings?

1/ Red Skull

2/ Dr. Faustus (We’ve seen these two in the shadows, but they could be red herrings.)

3/ Hate Monger

4/ Dr. Psycho

5/ Dr. Doom (suspiciously absent)

6/ Puppet Master

7/ The Mad Thinker

8/ Professor Xavier

9/ Emma Frost

10/ Maximus the Mad

11/ Scarlet Witch

12/ Purple Man

13/ Loki

14/ Your choice here.
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Old Oct 22, 2006, 10:36 PM #179 of 231
Skrulls. My theory is that a hidden armada of Skrulls are behind these events.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 01:49 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2006, 02:49 AM #180 of 231
Everyone knows it's the Smurfs.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 09:06 PM Local time: Oct 23, 2006, 11:36 PM #181 of 231
spider man revealing his identity though, the look on Jonah's face was priceless

I was speaking idiomatically.


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Old Oct 24, 2006, 11:01 PM Local time: Oct 24, 2006, 11:01 PM #182 of 231
From silverbulletcomicbooks.com:

Turner and Turnbull See Black Panther Enter Civil War

Posted: Tuesday, October 24
Posted By: Keith Dallas
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A rising superstar in his own right will be taking over penciling duties for this arc of Black Panther as Aspen artist Koi Turnbull brings his dynamic pencils to the King of Wakanda.

The honeymoon is over. The diplomatic tour is almost at its end and now it is time for T’Challa and Ororo to go visit the last stop of their tour: the United States. Going back to family and friends wouldn’t be so hard if the superhero community wasn’t in the middle of a war, but Storm and Black Panther have no other choice. They’ve got to make a stand.

Writer Reginald Hudlin’s latest story arc will have Storm and Black Panther in the midst of a battle they wish they could avoid. Both sides are looking to boost their numbers, but which side will this power couple ultimately join? Find out as Civil War continues in Black Panther #23.

BLACK PANTHER #23 (OCT062147)
Written by REGINALD HUDLIN
Penciled by KOI TURNBULL
Cover by MICHAEL TURNER
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99
On-Sale – 12/27/2006
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 12:31 AM Local time: Nov 15, 2006, 12:31 AM #183 of 231
From silverbulletcomicbooks.com:

CIVIL WAR: Choosing Sides Sells Out, More Specials on the Way!

Posted: Tuesday, November 14
Posted By: Keith Dallas
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The red-hot one-shot that gave first looks at books like the all-new, all deadly Thunderbolts; Omega Flight; and Iron Fist; as well as providing a glipse at where Ant-Man and even Howard the Duck stand on Civil War has sold out. CIVIL WAR: CHOOSING SIDES featured an all-star creative team and proved to be a smash hit with both retailers and fans alike!

A late addition to the Civil War checklist, CHOOSING SIDES is just one of four new specials designed to enrich the Civil War epic unfolding throughout the Marvel Universe. Given the rapid sell-out of this special, retailers are urged to check their orders on the following upcoming one-shots: CIVIL WAR: WAR CRIMES, in which the Kingpin of crime enters the War; WINTER SOLDIER: WINTER KILLS, which finds the Winter Soldier facing off with both the Young Avengers and his former team mates the Invaders; and IRON MAN/CAPTAIN AMERICA: CASUALTIES OF WAR, where a last ditch effort made by the leaders of Civil War to put an end to the War could lead to making matters far worse!

As Civil War continues to tear apart the Marvel Universe, and with promises of long-reaching ramifications by the stories end, fans are encouraged to strap in for the wild ride the final months will prove to be!

Despite requests from retailers and fans for a second printing, no decision has been made at this time. Although CIVIL WAR: CHOOSING SIDES has sold out at Diamond, there may be some copies available at retailers across the country.

WINTER SOLDIER: WINTER KILLS ONE-SHOT (OCT062149)
Written by ED BRUBAKER
Penciled by LEE WEEKS
Cover by STEVE EPTING
48 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99
FOC – 11/21, On-Sale – 12/13/2006

IRON MAN/CAPTAIN AMERICA: CASUALTIES OF WAR ONE SHOT (OCT062158)
Written by CHRISTOS GAGE
Penciled by JEREMY HAUN
Cover by JIM CHEUNG 50/50 Cover Split
48 PGS./Rated A ...$3.99
FOC – 11/21, On-Sale – 12/13/2006

CIVIL WAR: WAR CRIMES ONE-SHOT (OCT062150)
Written By FRANK TIERI
Pencils by STAZ JOHNSON
Cover by SEAN SCOFFIELD
48 PGS/RATED T+... $3.99
FOC – 11/30, On-Sale – 12/20/2006
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 01:18 AM Local time: Nov 15, 2006, 12:18 AM #184 of 231
Ahh, I gotta watch out for these one shots. I had to look all over town to get "Choosing Sides", as it was sold it at all the places I frequented (and they usually have a big supply when it comes to CW issues). Hopefully this won't be the case for the rest of the one shots.

Oh, and I noticed that the Casualties of War is gonna have 2 different covers. I bet one features Iron Man, while the other is Captain America. I'll definitely be buying both.

EDIT:

Just saw the article, heh, looks like I was right about the covers.



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Old Nov 15, 2006, 09:59 PM Local time: Nov 15, 2006, 09:59 PM #185 of 231
From silverbulletcomicbooks.com:

Civil War Makes Maxim’s Most Awesome of 2006 List

Posted: Wednesday, November 15
Posted By: Keith Dallas

Maxim Magazine has released their Most Awesome list of 2006, naming Civil War one of the Most Awesome things of the past year in their December issue.

The shock of Peter Parker revealing his identity to the world, the return of Thor, and the awe-inspiring battles between heroes, including a bloody battle between Captain America and Iron Man, has catapulted Civil War to the top of the most awesome things of 2006.

And the year’s not even over yet! Civil War still has more awesomeness to come before the year ends! Civil War #5 is on-sale now as the all-new, all-deadly Thunderbolts take the fight to the anti-Registration heroes, the Punisher enters the war, and Spider-Man makes another monumental decision that changes his life forever – again!

If you are looking for sheer awesome story-telling, look no further than the biggest event of the year – Civil War!
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 10:39 PM #186 of 231
So Civil War 5 was great. The IGN reviewer needs to chill. They rated the issue a "check it" - i.e. average. That's BS. The complaint is continuity (I didn't really notice any continuity issues, maybe the Johny thing) and that the event was spoiled beforehand. Ya, because you have to read solicits (that's probably where the spoiler was).

Spoiler:
Peter got his ass handed to him. I hope that he's able to recover ok. I'm really curious about the whole Punisher thing. Will Cap give him the ok or not? Iron Fist's comment to Stark at the end was pure gold. I hope that hits Tony hard.


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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:50 PM #187 of 231
Acro-nym: I wish the variants were only $2.99; they're still $19.99 at my local shop.

I need to grab a copy of "Choosing Sides" in the coming week. There were still about six copies left.

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Mucknuggle: The main continuity issue people have been talking about is The Punisher's sudden appearance (starting from #4). In #5, Punisher says he's been looking after Cap & Crew, but there's no evidence of his appearing in CW #1-3.


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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:57 PM #188 of 231
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Acro-nym: I wish the variants were only $2.99; they're still $19.99 at my local shop.

I need to grab a copy of "Choosing Sides" in the coming week. There were still about six copies left.

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Mucknuggle: The main continuity issue people have been talking about is The Punisher's sudden appearance (starting from #4). In #5, Punisher says he's been looking after Cap & Crew, but there's no evidence of his appearing in CW #1-3.
RE spoiler

Spoiler:
Right, because he has to have been shown in the panels for him to be there. What a stupid complaint. Comic book nerds are annoying.


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Old Nov 26, 2006, 09:02 PM #189 of 231
Civil War #5 was better than any previous issue, though that isn't really saying much. I don't know why those two enemies were sent to deal with Spidey. I don't know when Tony reinforced the glass to make it be sturdier than as seen previously. I don't know why Spider-Man calls the clone Thor a cyborg since he clearly isn't. Spidey's motivations are not crystal clear to those who haven't read or heard about events in Amazing Spider-Man. But these are just minor qualms and in no way truly matter to the story itself. I hope the rest of the mini-series is at least as good as this issue. It needs redemption.

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Old Nov 30, 2006, 03:19 PM Local time: Nov 30, 2006, 09:19 PM #190 of 231
I didn't really read comic books before Civil War so continuity isn't really an issue for me. I know the basic backstory to most of people involved but not enough to say what a characetr would and wouldn't do. After this though I'll probabaly follow some of the more itneresting books.

The Runaways(can't wait for Whedon to get started), Cable and Deadpool, Ms Marvel(maybe), The New Avengers(if thats still around post-CW) and maybe Wolverines solo title.

As for the most recent books:
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The ending of Iron Mans New Avengers issue was interesting, not as big a bombshell as intended after reading the latest Iron Man book first but Stark running S.H.I.E.L.D if it comes to fruition could be very interesting.

Any guesses as to who the traitor is thats working with Green Goblin in Frontline?


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Old Nov 30, 2006, 10:23 PM Local time: Nov 30, 2006, 10:23 PM #191 of 231
From newsrama.com:

CIVIL WAR #6 GETS A SCHEDULE BUMP

Marvel Comics has confirmed for Newsarama that the on-sale date of Civil War #6 has been moved to January 3rd, two weeks later than the previously announced on-sale date of December 20th, given when Marvel originally informed retailers and readers issues #4-6 of the mega-selling limited series would not ship on their originally solicited dates, along with the necessary delays of Civil War related tie-in titles timed to the release of the main mini-series.

Marvel also informed Newsarama that Civil War #7, originally solicited after the announced delays of issues #4-6 for a 1/17/07 on-sale, will remain on January’s schedule and is now scheduled for a 1/31 release.

Unlike the previous schedule changes, these changes do not affect many Civil War tie-in issues. Only Punisher War Journal #2 will be delayed one week until January 3rd, to time it to the release of Civil War #6.

Amazing Spider-Man #538 and Fantastic Four #543 though announced in Marvel’s August press release about the shipping delays as going on sale 1/24, were actually subsequently originally solicited for a January 31st release, and those dates have not been affected.

As to the question of why this two week delay, according to Marvel Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada,

“The decision to delay Civil War #6 was both a strategic and cautious decision on our part.

“First, let me say that all the materials are still coming in on schedule, but [series artist] Steve [McNiven] has come down with a very severe case of strep throat,” Quesada told Newsarama Thursday morning, which was later confirmed by the artist himself. “However, even with the strep, he's persevered and is still producing a page a day. So, while Steve's impaired health hasn't caused any delays, we felt that with something like strep, it would be best to buffer the schedule a tad in case he wises up and decides to put his head down for a couple of days.

“The second and most important reason we moved the book two weeks (rather than just one) is because we heard from our retail partners that if they had their way, they would preferred that issue #6 ship in January as opposed to the last week of December, which is traditionally not a great time for comics retailers. So, putting all of these things into the mix, we figured two weeks was a smart thing to do.”
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 10:57 PM #192 of 231
That's too bad. I crave more Civil War. It really is an excellent series. So much better than the latest DC crossover and its tie-ins. Consistent art =

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Old Dec 1, 2006, 12:38 AM Local time: Nov 30, 2006, 11:38 PM #193 of 231
Oh wow, I actually didn't even know CW #6 was actually set for Dec. 20th. Oh well, can't wait to read the next issue, I really wanna see how this is gonna wrap.

Second the consistent art! McNiven's work is fantastic! It wouldn't have been the same if they got another artist to cover for the delays.

Hopefully this will be the end of the delays though. At least for the main title I hope.

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Old Dec 15, 2006, 12:22 PM Local time: Dec 15, 2006, 11:22 AM #194 of 231
A look at Civil War #6's cover, the source's article is obivously old. Looks like they're going storm into the Negative Zone Prison (as if anyone didn't see that coming).




Source: http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=91713

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Old Dec 20, 2006, 09:16 PM #195 of 231
I was looking through the March solicits (at least, I think it was March) and I noticed something.

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In Iron Man: Hypervelocity #3, S.H.I.E.L.D. is hunting down Iron Man. I'm probably jumping to conclusions, but I somehow get the feeling that Tony might actually turn Anti-Reg. I haven't read Iron Man #13 or #14 yet, so it's just an inkling.


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Old Jan 1, 2007, 09:38 PM Local time: Jan 2, 2007, 10:38 AM #196 of 231
Any of you have an updated list of all Civil War related books? This one I have doesn't have Black Panther #22 in it, even though #22 has the "Civil War" cover, but it has #23, so maybe one of you guys have an updated list of somesort.

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Old Jan 2, 2007, 12:44 PM Local time: Jan 2, 2007, 11:14 PM #197 of 231
Here you go. It's pretty much complete IMO. And it's easy to keep track of your collection. Just put x-s besides the issues you have...

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Old Jan 2, 2007, 06:49 PM Local time: Jan 3, 2007, 07:49 AM #198 of 231
Cool, thanks man!

So, I heard that post-war the Avengers will be broken into 2 groups? Anyone can confirm this? All I know is the "Mighty Avengers" group, and no idea what the other one is called (if there is another one, that is).

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Old Jan 2, 2007, 09:14 PM #199 of 231
I think they're keeping the "New Avengers" title and starting up a second one, the "Might Avengers". I don't remember the details though.

Rumor is that CW causes the Fantastic Four to split up. The new FF is Torch, Thing, Storm and her hubby, Black Panther.

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Old Jan 3, 2007, 12:03 AM Local time: Jan 3, 2007, 10:33 AM #200 of 231
Unless Sue Storm is a casualty, I really don't see how she's going to split from her brother. It would be an interesting line-up though...

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