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[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread
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Old Oct 12, 2006, 08:22 PM #1676 of 3592
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High point of the Sony area/booth? Some fanboy utterly trashing Sony, the employees, their mothers, policies, the works. It was so embarassing the attendant lady went off elsewhere until he was gone.
Grubdog?

Anyway, usually demo videos aren't worth judging the final game by, since A) they usually use an old build (for example, RE4 uses the E3 trailers for their demos), or B) the compression strips the little knicks and knacks of the final design.

Well, all I want to know is what time does the Sony Gamer show thing starts next week.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 08:30 PM Local time: Oct 12, 2006, 06:30 PM #1677 of 3592
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Grubdog?

Anyway, usually demo videos aren't worth judging the final game by, since A) they usually use an old build (for example, RE4 uses the E3 trailers for their demos), or B) the compression strips the little knicks and knacks of the final design.

Well, all I want to know is what time does the Sony Gamer show thing starts next week.
More like Sprouticus. Also, what the hell with both that PS3 Oblivion and GT HD screenshots!

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:06 PM Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 12:06 PM #1678 of 3592
Originally Posted by Spatula
Also, what the hell with both that PS3 Oblivion and GT HD screenshots!
GT's a port of a PS2 game and Oblivion is a port of a game from a rival machine, so obviously Microsoft used their vast amounts of devil cash on the developer (that is why you can replace the S with a $ for a clever, original result worthy of pats on the back) to ensure the game would look worse. It's true, I heard it from the janitor!

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:09 PM Local time: Oct 12, 2006, 08:09 PM #1679 of 3592
Spat, the point of those being posted is that THAT is what your first generation PS3 stuff is going to look like for the most part. It's not going to be worlds above what the 360 is doing right now. Slayer would have you believing something else though.

Metal Sphere, thanks for the impressions. Considering your eye for detail and technical knowledge, impressions coming from you are worth 10 times that coming from most others.

A shame some of those other games weren't playable. That would be have nice to try those. Can't say I'm too surprised at the issues you mentioned, however.

I am curious though, would they really use such an old build to show the games and hardware off at this stage of the game? You'd think that they would use the latest code possible. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what the final product looked like.

Still, interesting. I'm still considering getting one of these things at launch, but my local EB said they were getting only 2 units in at launch. And knowing us, probably about 20 people will be lined up this sunday night to take the preorders. We'll see if I even bother.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:17 PM #1680 of 3592
Oh, controller impressions:

Sticks = Smooth, very responsive, may be a little too much for some. Still the same material as before I believe, wonder why they're not indented though.

Triggers = They're shaped like buttons (enlarged L2/R2), but they definitely feel like triggers. Nice tactile response, though if it was indented slightly may prevent the inevitable finger slipping complaints the sticks get.

D-Pad: Didn't use it in either Resistance nor NBA '07. One thing to remember to try when I go back tommorow.

Rumble-less: Not noticeable. When you haven't actually played the games, the feature seems idiotic to drop. But when you're actually playing, you couldn't care less. The complaints about "how will you know when you get hit" are bunk. The games let you know, clearly and from what direction you're being attacked.
Would the feature immerse you more if it was present? Yes, but it's not the mountain people are making this mole hill out to be.

Quality: I abused this thing as much as I could without it being overtly obvious. Squeezing the controller hard, making drastic movements with the sticks, crushing down triggers. None of the telltale signs of shitty QC (shifting plastic, squeeks, buttons loosening/sticking). It's lighter, but it doesn't feel cheaply made from a cursory examination. This may change by the last day of the convention after it's seen a lot of action.

It was connected to the PS3 with the USB to mini-USB charge cable, which was surprisingly thick/hefty.
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Metal Sphere, thanks for the impressions. Considering your eye for detail and technical knowledge, impressions coming from you are worth 10 times that coming from most others.
Ah, you're welcome. Just reporting back what I saw. Hopefully Cetra pops in to explain why Warhawk's water was gorgeous and reacting realistically while Lair's was little more than a giant blue sheet with little to no lighting apparently applied. It could be that's the atmosphere they're going for in the game (gloomy, yellowed overcast sky, mild amount of bloom everywhere).

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A shame some of those other games weren't playable. That would be have nice to try those. Can't say I'm too surprised at the issues you mentioned, however.
Yeah, I was expecting at least 3 games to be playable. It's possible they may have more tommorow, though I doubt that's actually going to be the case.

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I am curious though, would they really use such an old build to show the games and hardware off at this stage of the game? You'd think that they would use the latest code possible. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what the final product looked like.
Well, it's not all that surprising. I can't even remember the number of games who have ancient builds running as promos, so it's not like this is unexpected. It was a bit jarring since the TGS trailer of the game @ 720p is leaps and bounds ahead of what was shown.

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Still, interesting. I'm still considering getting one of these things at launch, but my local EB said they were getting only 2 units in at launch. And knowing us, probably about 20 people will be lined up this sunday night to take the preorders. We'll see if I even bother.
Don't bother. There should be a process shrink to 65nm for the RSX/CELL sometime during the summer next year. That's what they were originally waiting for (and BR to reach 2x and HDMI specifications), but decided to go with 90nm for the time being.

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Last edited by Metal Sphere; Oct 12, 2006 at 09:32 PM.
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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:33 PM #1681 of 3592
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ebay/eb...ons-206770.php

It's official, auctions for the PS3 are getting shut down.... For the next 7 days. Apparently you can't sell pre-order stuff over 30 days in advance, so, by this time next week, they'll be back on there. Kind of ruthless, but whatever.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:38 PM #1682 of 3592
Colonel Skills: Perhaps I am leaning a bit more to the Sony side of things. Hell I'll admitt it. However you can't really blame me when I like fighting, role playing, and music games the most. All of which are at their best on the Sony consoles, so it ain't my fault that the competition can't touch that.

Next is I'm not THAT much of a fanboy. As you know I have a 360, and have played almost EVERY non-sports game on the dang thing too. So I know what I'm talking about. As for thoes quotes of mine... thoes were totally taken out of context once again.

And finally I have a right to my opinion so why do you need to cut me all to hell. If you think I'm a fanboy, you shouls be smart enough to figure out that you can't change a fanboy's mind so why try? Or do you like running into brick walls too?

P.S.
Also you are right, Full Auto 2 doesn't look much better then the 1st on the 360. However the 360 one ran like ass and was unplayable... ain't my fault.

MetalSphere: Good to hear that you had an enjoyful and informative time at the show today. Too bad to hear some bad news on a couple of games. Though the Lair clipping wasn't that surprising after seeing a dragon run through some other trailer in a demo at TGS. Then again MotorStorm and Lair also arn't launch titles so who knows what else they're still planning on doing before release.

EDIT:

Lair looked pretty good at TGS (minus that clipping); http://www.gametrailers.com/player.p...pe=wmv&pl=game
Motor Storm looked pretty good here too; http://www.gametrailers.com/player.p...pe=wmv&pl=game

So do these videos look similar, better or worse then what you saw at TGS Metal Sphere. It's just so I can get an idea as to what they look like up close.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:39 PM #1683 of 3592
Does anyone know if I can preorder Wii and PS3 at the same time at EBgames?

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:45 PM Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 12:45 PM #1684 of 3592
Originally Posted by Slayer X

And finally I have a right to my opinion so why do you need to cut me all to hell.
Because you're derailing threads by crapping on Xbox. It's not needed. =(

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 09:52 PM #1685 of 3592
It's the Sony thread not the Xbox thread, what do you expect? Hell people in the Nintendo and Xbox threads bash the PS3 all the time. It's about time someone returned fire.

Anyhow this isn't the X-box thread hence I'm not going to talk a lot about X-box. I'm as sure as hell going to compare it to the PS3, but when I want to talk about X-box and X-box related things I take that to the appropriate thread.

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A lot of the "PS3" Oblivion shots are just recycled shots of the 360 version. If you want confirmed shots of the PS3 version you're going to have to look in this month's issue of PSM. For example IGN;

PS3 Shots: http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/702/702492/imgs_1.html
360 Shots: http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/7...3/imgs_10.html

They've even got the same date on the shots for god's sake.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:00 PM Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 01:00 PM #1686 of 3592
Eh, I stopped caring about the need to compare consoles (since it's beyond pointless) back with the Mega Drive and SNES. Oh well whatever, carry awwwwn!

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:18 PM #1687 of 3592
Originally Posted by Slayer X
So do these videos look similar, better or worse then what you saw at TGS Metal Sphere. It's just so I can get an idea as to what they look like up close.

*This post has not been spell checked*
I have that trailer in full 720p on my computer, and it beats the pants off what I saw today. Both are gameplay, but the difference is startling. The TGS traier, however is closer to the gameplay I saw today.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:28 PM #1688 of 3592
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
What I didn't like was they didn't register knockback at all until you killed them. This is strange because in the Ratchet and Spyro titles, all the enemies had some measure of response to attacks. But even with the shotgun, nada here.
Ug. I hope they fix that, because that really just kills games for me, and I was looking forward to it.

also - I lold a bit

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:29 PM Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 04:29 PM #1689 of 3592
Originally Posted by Slayer X
It's the Sony thread not the Xbox thread, what do you expect? Hell people in the Nintendo and Xbox threads bash the PS3 all the time. It's about time someone returned fire.
Yes! Let's bash other consoles in this thread because other people are bashing this console in another thread!

THAT'LL TEACH 'EM

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:37 PM #1690 of 3592
I'm just saying why the hell are people always focusing on me. Why the hell don't you guys ever say anything to anyone else? I go to all three console threads, but you don't see me saying anything thoes who bash either of the other two consoles. Are you telling me that I should? Or should we all role dice to see who gets to be the lucky one to get told each day?

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:53 PM #1691 of 3592
PS3 Backwards compatibility:















This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:53 PM Local time: Oct 12, 2006, 09:53 PM #1692 of 3592
Man, lemme see if I can explain how internet forums work. You're getting picked on because people rip apart senseless fanboy statements. Ask BZ, he gets just as much flak for the silly things he says. Same goes for Grub.

But why you're getting picked on is not the issue. This is derailment by this point and we should drop it.

Sphere: Neat pics once again, but man, why pick Fantavision of all things to show off. Some serious lol right there.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:55 PM Local time: Oct 12, 2006, 08:55 PM #1693 of 3592
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Whoa! What are those! Must be where you stash your potato chips!

I honestly don't know what those are....I'd thought you'd stick your PS1/2 memory cards there?

Also:



No luv for PS1 ;___;

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:56 PM #1694 of 3592
Originally Posted by Spatula
Whoa! What are those! Must be where you stash your potato chips!

I honestly don't know what those are....I'd thought you'd stick your PS1/2 memory cards there?
SD, XD and Memory Stick card slots. I think they have the larger camera storage slot too. A few pages back I posted the peripheral that transfers your game saves into the PS3's HDD.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 10:57 PM Local time: Oct 12, 2006, 09:57 PM #1695 of 3592
From left to right: CompactFlash, SD/miniSD cards, and Memory Stick Pro/Pro Duo slots.

You've probably seen these in cameras before. The MS Pro Duos are also used in PSPs. Photos of each:

CF:



SD:



Basically looks like a DS game.

MS Pro:



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Old Oct 12, 2006, 11:31 PM #1696 of 3592
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
Fantavidon! oh no I'll be sure not to make the same mistake twice XD got this game is boring XD but I'm curious what could look some next-gen fireworks...(or is it only the ps2 version? didn't it suported widescreen...)

Edith nevermind i saw the disk on the second picture, yes it's only ps2 version XD still curious what they could do with the ps3 for fireworks effect XD (not that it's really complicated...)

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 11:35 PM #1697 of 3592


So, the 60gb PS3 is bigger than the 20gb one?

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 11:42 PM #1698 of 3592
seem like it... maybe the wi-fi thing take a lil more space XD ( I really don't know XD)

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 11:42 PM #1699 of 3592
Originally Posted by SOLDIER


So, the 60gb PS3 is bigger than the 20gb one?
That's due to the angle at which the photo was taken. The perspective make it look bigger, like your finger close to your eye will you look at the moon.

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Old Oct 12, 2006, 11:44 PM #1700 of 3592
That doesn't make all that much sense. Why would it be bigger?

I think that's just perspective dude.

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