[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

So basically, Ricky Bobby and Black Hawk Down are the first two "real" Blu Ray movies. In that case, it's obvious why they chose the former and not the latter. I hope they'll at least have hi def trailers for future BR movies.



Okay...so what does that mean?

Both movies are full featured, not barebones, especially given the discs they're on. There will be a few on there.

Thermo

Sensor

With the two definitions side by side it should be obvious, by now, what it is. Instead of pressing something, you touch the sensor with your finger and your body heat turns it on.

I was speaking idiomatically.

It can be argued whether the thermo-sensor is needed or not. However every analog component in a device is more likely to break then a digital one. In other words at the store that I work at we get at least one 360 a week that the owner has broken the power button on it due to tripping over it, hitting it with something that they shouldn't have or some other randomly stupid event.

I like the comparison that a guy at PSM gave in last month's issue.

"Sure the PS3 is expensive, sure there's cheaper solutions. However if you think about the car industry the PS3 would be like a porsche of the gaming market. Yes it's expensive, and yes it can do a LOT of cool stuff. Do you think that other people drive cheapper cars because they think that they're better then a Porsche? No, it's because that's all that they can afford. However if you can afford a PS3, it may cost a lot, but you're going to get more value for your money then you would with the lesser expensive solutions."

I couldn't have described it better myself.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by avanent

Not really... a thermosensor doesn't improve play in anyway.

Neither do the first three on that list.

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Even thoguh I don't care for the move to wirless controllers, at least it improves play as the wire can no longer be tripped over or be pulled at (affect the system, getting unplugged/yanking the system around).

Sounds like someone's stretching to me, since that doesn't "enhance" gameplay in the least

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Gameplay includes all player experiences during the interaction with game systems, especially formal games. Proper use is coupled with reference to "what the player does"

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Likewise, while I don't think the mass public is ready for HD, it is an improvement upon the visuals which is beneficial overall.

And that's the category in which features like wireless controllers, harddrives, internet access, pressue-sensitive buttons fall into. While not necessary in the least, they've become welcome additions to the gaming experience (ie: sitting down and using your console).

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Honestly, I dont know what progressive scan does... so... maybe its an accurate comparison.

Back when it first showed up, people made the same argument about it as you're doing with this switch. Needless to say, no one is lamenting it's existance.

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A thermosensor majigger is just an expensive replacement for a button... it doesn't improve upon anything, and isn't likely cheaper than a standard button.

Can you share with us the knowledge you're privy to that makes you certain this is more expensive than a button?

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Didn't think about that... then again the 360 is supose to be a movie player too :ashamed:

And so is the PS2 and PSTwo, both of which are quieter than the 360. One company is simply focused on making the hardware as quiet as possible for frequent movie playback.

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Well, as far as marketing strategies go... if your going to try and push a new format... wouldn't you want to do something which might actually be a noticable improvement over the current standard... especially if your asking 2-3x as much per disc.

You're uninformed, and it shows. There's plenty of resources online to use to get yourself up to speed on the formats. And since you brought up marketing, that's the reason why Talladega was picked, if you look at the box office turnout for the movie and the demographic that watched it.

You can argue with someone else, since I've seen the way these things go and they're of no benefit to the thread.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Oh and the on/off button isn't even a button... it's a thermosensor.

That explains why it costs at least $500.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Chairman Kaga

That explains why it costs at least $500.

Cell + RSX, that's why.

How ya doing, buddy?

God damn it people. Thermosensors are not that expensive. Products like the i-pod and many other things use these instead of a buttons all the time. There's nothing to argue. They cost $3 and are of no signifigance to anything other then the fact the PS3 has one. There's no reason to argue over this trivial point. If you want to argue over something then argue why the 360's HD-DVD player costs $250 CAD for a system that you already paid $500 for.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

An even better option would be to keep the thread on track about PS3 and its games and not argue over totally pointless stuff such as a thermosensor or how much Xbox 360 stuff costs!

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

My point was just simply that people are arguing over how a thermosensor may cost $2 more then a button, when there's bigger things to complain about that actually matter. Or at least to a higher extent.

But yes, let's try to keep the argument to a minimum from now on.... keyword "try".

MetalSphere: This is wat happens when you make ground breaking posts, lol. Keep up the good work ^^

Chairman Kaga: You wern't the only one that I was targeting with that post. It was directed to other, more serious people who were focusing on a matter that... well just didn't matter.

As for the overheating, what system doesn't overheat under improper conditions? (like TGS) At least the PS3 doesn't sound like it's going to have as many problems as the 360 or PSTwo. On the other hand, we're basing our opinions on other people's biased opinions, which is not good for data accuracy. So let's keep the speculation to a minimum too. ^^;

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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God damn it people. Thermosensors are not that expensive.

God damn it people - who don't have a sense of humour, and think every post is serious business.

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Cell + RSX, that's why.

You forgot bluray.


Regarding the overheating issue at TGS. A friend went the game show, but didn't say anything about it. But that's not to say it's not true.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Chairman Kaga

God damn it people - who don't have a sense of humour, and think every post is serious business.


You forgot bluray.

No, for the simple fact that it's only different from a regular drive in that it has an ultraviolet laser array. But this is OT, if you really want to know, PM me.

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Regarding the overheating issue at TGS. A friend went the game show, but didn't say anything about it. But that's not to say it's not true.

There are already quite a few people who went to the show that can attest to how hot it was and the security concerns overriding ventilation for the booths. Throw in unstable game code and you have crashes.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I don't even know about that. Both GameSpot and IGN have complimented as to how smooth the PS3 games ran, even the ones that don't release until like Q2 '07. They both said that they never experianced any slowdowns at any time during TGS. GameTrailers said the same thing on their weekly report too.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Slayer X

I don't even know about that. Both GameSpot and IGN have complimented as to how smooth the PS3 games ran, even the ones that don't release until like Q2 '07. They both said that they never experianced any slowdowns at any time during TGS. GameTrailers said the same thing on their weekly report too.

Yup. It's getting to the point where you can see people who are walking around with some sort of agenda in their hands versus those that report what they saw and played. We've even got folks that went firsthand over on GAF and their reports came well before these writeups and essentially said the same thing.

With all this in mind, it's easy to see those who are intentionally spreading FUD.

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Anyway, it looks like we'll get online details the 19th, after that news from RadiOPM basically confirms its existance. As for that Wipeout news being true, I doubt it, but you never now. It's from the same person who took those PS3 shots so it's just something to keep an eye on.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Hey, I know you guys already talked about this a while ago, but up to 7 controllers on one console? I thought the pictures of the controllers only showed the option for 4, with a light indicating what player you are?

Are there only 4 lights because they believe this will be the standard?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Good point, however Sony has said time and time again that it can go up to 7 BlueTooth components (i.e. 7 controllers) if the developers make a game that actually supports 7 players. In other words we're going to have to wait and see. If it's said at all before the system comes out it will be at the Sony conference Oct 19th.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Maybe it starts lighting up 2 lights if you're player 5, 6 or 7

4+1, 4+2, 4+3 *shrug*

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Originally Posted by Cobalt Katze

Maybe it starts lighting up 2 lights if you're player 5, 6 or 7

4+1, 4+2, 4+3 *shrug*

Maybe the LEDs are different colors? Or it could be that they're simply indicators to show which player you are when plugged in via USB. Heck it may just be the charge status indicator.

Double Post:
PS3 interface video, Resistance: Fall of Man retail demo loop and PS3 x Xbox 360 coitus:

Both the interface video, and the Xbox 360/PS3 size comparison are in the following link.

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/ps3/gam...4115917309058#

Resistance: Fall of Man looping retail demo (full of madness and blinking start indicator!)

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/videopl...05171140624036

Resistance: Fall of Man "Sniper" gameplay (notice the shoot 'em up-like waves of bullets coming from down below)

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/6695

Downloadable Resistance:FOM looping demo:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...AA19C20591FF5D

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Man that's a LOT of stuff. It's going to take me a bit to get through all that. However, thanks for the great finds

I was speaking idiomatically.

No problem, I was just surprised how far this thread slipped down. It's probably because edit/automerge doesn't function as a regular post. Another interesting thing to note, is that OPM (U.S. OPM), has the review copy of Resistance and confirms 1080p native.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I really hope Resistence delivers as something beyond a decent FPS or a mere Halo clone. I'm placing bets on making it my premiere launch title, and there will be problems if it ends up mediocre. Motorstorm looks fun, but I really don't want a racing game to be my first experience with a next-gen system. And Oblivion is guaranteed to be good, but it's just a port that probably will look no better than the 360 version.

I want my first game with a new system to be something to show off, visually. But it has to be fun to play, too. I'm not exactly confident that an FPS can do that either (since your player is always invisible, due to the camera view), but with Heavenly Sword and Lair delayed, Sonic reportedly another disaster, and Genji 2 looking like a PS2.5 game, then everything rides on Resistence for now. Sony probably came to the same conclusion, thus all the marketing toward it.

FELIPE NO

Wow, that childish booty call video was some biased bullshit.
I'll never touch anything 'Gamesradar' again. I should thank you.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

I want my first game with a new system to be something to show off, visually. But it has to be fun to play, too.

From the top of my head, I would personally go for MotorStorm. Definitely.
Other than its obvious stunning visuals, it looks like a ton of fun! Vehicles rummaging all around in chaotic frenzy, smashing to bits, while struggling towards the finishline. Hell, I could see myself buying two copies.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

New info on White Knight Story from the headhoncho of Level 5, Akihiro Hino. This man's statement at the end rings true, it's no wonder why L5 is so damn good with someone like this at the helm.

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Speaking with Japan's Weekly Famitsu magazine, Akihiro Hino, president of developer Level 5 and producer of White Knight Story, said that he hopes to make a game with a 50 to 60 hour play time, which he referred to as a typical play time for an RPG. "With White Knight Story, we don't want to release a half-way product," said Hino. "We want to have a big title that surpasses the volume of the RPGs we've made in the past."

So White Knight clearly won't be some rushed first generation RPG project. But Level 5 apparently had pressure to do just that, with Hino revealing that there was some talk of attempting to get the game out around the time of the PS3's launch. In order to meet the launch, Hino says, Level 5 would've had to cut the story short, which is something he didn't want to do.

While Hino didn't share any new details on White Knight with the magazine, he did provide some insight into his personal gaming tastes. When asked what games he's paying attention to on other hardware, he responded with Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, citing the need to match the "extremely beautiful visuals" in those titles.

Hino didn't have anything bad to say about any of the current and upcoming hardware. "The Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3, the DS and the PSP... I think this will be the most exciting year end period ever."

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Slayer X

God damn it people. Thermosensors are not that expensive. Products like the i-pod and many other things use these instead of a buttons all the time. There's nothing to argue. They cost $3 and are of no signifigance to anything other then the fact the PS3 has one. There's no reason to argue over this trivial point. If you want to argue over something then argue why the 360's HD-DVD player costs $250 CAD for a system that you already paid $500 for.

oh? Are they really that cheap?

I guess I'm just suspicious of something I can't push... I happen to like buttons

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by avanent

oh? Are they really that cheap?

I guess I'm just suspicious of something I can't push... I happen to like buttons

Yes, contrary to popular belief, little things like that really don't add that much cost to a product versus the image improvement they receive as a result of their inclusion. That's why it was laughable when people said to drop the card readers/usb ports in the PS3 to get the price down.

Oh, here's what the Japanese PS3 model comes with in the box:

Scroll down a bit and you'll see it.

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Lieferumfang der japanischen PS3

07.10.06 - Japanische Fachgeschäfte haben in einer Broschüre Informationen von Sony erhalten, was sich im Lieferumfang der PS3 befinden soll (Änderungen bis zur Auslieferung sind noch möglich).

- PS3 Hardware
- 1 x Controller
- 1 x USB Kabel (z.B. für Anschluss von PSP)
- 1 x Stereo AV Kabel
(Stereo AV, Component, D-Terminal, Multi-Terminal)
Ein HDMI-Kabel ist separat erhältlich
- 1 x LAN Kabel
- 1 x Stromkabel

I see:

Edit: Well, the AV cable thing's been clarified. It's the typical Playstation cable with the proprietary plug at one end, but at the other end it has all those connections (Stereo A/V Composite, Component, D-Terminal, Multi-Terminal). In the U.S. we'll probably just get a version of this with only composite and component at the connection end.

1 Controller
1 USB cable (probably the charging cable)
1 Stereo AV cable (This is confusing since it lists a ton of other stuff. Are they all on the end of the same cable, all you German folk?)
1 Lan/Ethernet cable
1 Power cord

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Wow, lots of stuff!

Avanent: lol, that's ok.

MetalSphere: You should also post that White Knight Story infor in it's thread in the RPG area.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Wow, lots of stuff!

Avanent: lol, that's ok.

MetalSphere: You should also post that White Knight Story infor in it's thread in the RPG area.

Alright, I'll go and put it up now. I'm sure there's some more news to put up here anyway, I've been gone a bit.

I was speaking idiomatically.