[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by Slayer X

That's the problem with Ubisoft. The Montreal branch always wants to go Sony only, the California branch always wants to go M$, and Japan always wants to go multiplatform. The only problem with cutting this SC after all the others being on all systems is that they've slit their throat in being able to continue the series on any other system. So if the 360 tanks, Splinter Cell will go along with it. Then again after doing what they did, perhaps they deserve it.

Well, I wouldn't word it so strongly, but what they're doing is pretty stupid on the face of things. The series has enjoyed very good sales on nearly all of the platforms it's been on so why suddenly (and willingly) restrict yourself to one platform even though the other is likely to catch bigger sales?

The simple answer to this is moneybags, paid exclusive, etc...

PS3 XMB Icons: http://www.jp.playstation.com/hardware/ps3/index.html

Edit: PS3 Game and Peripheral pricing revealed:

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IGN's got it up too.

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Sony's games are 5980 yen, apparently just over 50 USD.

http://translate.google.com/translat...tainment%2BJap


Sixaxis Playstation 3 Controller = 5,000 Yen including tax (US - $39.99) est

PS1/PS2 Memory Card Adaptor = 1,500 Yen including tax (US - $12.99) est

Playstation 3 Remote Control = 3,600 Yen including tax (US - $29.99) est


http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/her...ote-204792.php

And finally some pictures for the last link.

All stolen from Nfactor, psinext (+rep lol), kudos to him on the finds... hopefully this translates well to our NA shores... seems like the peripherals will, likely the games will too as well but it's up in the air as of now.

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And my first link is broken... lol.

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I just want to make one comment, I really like the adaptor for the memory card pricing. Very friendly and being made by Sony means that these will be easy to find along with anywhere the consoles and games are being sold. That's a bonus for me considering I totally thought I was never going to get my old saves back because I'm not a fan of third party hardware lol, and normally I don't add extra peripherals to a console, but the memory cards I will make an exception for. I want my friggin HD PS2 games.
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Jump for joy ladies and gentlemen, looks like getting your PS2 saves onto the PS3 will be cheap it seems. And the prices are far more reasonable than the $70 Sixaxis rumor going around. As if Sony was really going to pass up the option of providing another peripheral, one that nearly every PS2 owner will probably buy.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

So, a PS1/PS2 Memory Card adapter, eh? Well, I guess that's one answered question. No options at all would've sucked, but now we got a choice at least.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Are those confirmed for the US? Because it seems the US doesn't quite get the same cost as Japan. It looks like the prices abvoe were all in yen. Any luck on US Prices?

You didn't catch all of IGN, BTW...

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In the next bracket are two Sony Computer Entertainment titles. Both Resistance and Genji will carry a price point o 5,980 yen. As these are full games, most were expecting a price of at least 7,140 yen, which is the standard tax-included price for current generation games.

Sega's launch title, Sega Golf Club, has been priced at 7,140 yen, as previously reported. So has Sonic the Hedgehog, which hits Japan on 12/21 at 7,140 yen.

Finally, we come to the high end of the launch lineup. Ridge Racer 7 and Gundam Target in Sight will both carry price points of 7,329 yen. This is actually the price that Konami charges for most of its PS2 games.

From Software will follow launch with the highest priced PS3 game of them all. As previously reported, Armored Core 4 will hit Japanese retail on 12/14 carrying, a price point of 8,190 yen. PS2 Armored Core games have carried this price in the past.

I have no idea how that carries, but it sounds significantly more.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Nope, those Sony titles work out at roughly $50 US, and that Sega Golf game is about $60. From Software's like Square-Enix in that they can charge whatever the hell they want and know Japan will still eat it up no matter how terrible it is. =)

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I was just thinking, will there be a PS1/PS2 controller adaptor? I liked how I could use my PSX controllers with Timesplitters when I got my PS2 on release, but do I have to buy another controller for Resistance multi?

FELIPE NO

There will be an adapter for PS1/2 controllers which will also support the custom controllers for thoes systems too. If thoes controllers will work for PS3 games has yet to be seen. If they do though any game that uses the motion sensor won't be playable with thoes controllers obviously.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Slayer X

There will be an adapter for PS1/2 controllers which will also support the custom controllers for thoes systems too. If thoes controllers will work for PS3 games has yet to be seen. If they do though any game that uses the motion sensor won't be playable with thoes controllers obviously.

A USB adapter/multitap for PS2 controllers is probably on the way, and even games that use the tilt function will probably be playable as I doubt that'll be the only control method. As for the games, Japan has a different pricing model altogether not to mention everything over there is more expensive.

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From Dual Shock to...
by Anoop Gantayat

October 3, 2006 - Six Axis. That's the official name for the PlayStation 3 controller.

Sony announced today its first accessories for the PS3, and included in the announcement was the name for the new Dual Shock. With the controller no longer featuring rumble, most expected the new name to do away with the "Shock," and sure enough, the final name of "Six Axis" reflects the motion-sensing abilities of the device.

Every PS3 will ship with one controller standard, but those who want multiplayer play will need to pick up an extra device. Sony also announced today pricing for extra controllers. In Japan, extra Six Axis controllers, model number CECHZC1J, will retail for 5,000 yen. This is a step up from current Dual Shock controllers, which tend to retail for just under the 3,000 yen mark. Converting to US dollars, the 5,000 yen price is approximately $40, although actual regional pricing tends to differ somewhat from direct currency conversion.

Sony also revealed today a few new bits about the controller. Each controller will have a Lithium Ion battery built in. You'll be able to connect to the PS3 via USB to charge the battery, with a single charge taking 30 minutes. And yes, you'll be able to play games while the controller is charging. It's unknown if Sony will be including a USB cable with the controller.

Stay tuned for further details on Sony's new PS3 peripherals.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

They're just blowing away the 360's accesory line-up and pricing out of the water, especially if they stick with the controller price at $40 instead of the $50 wireless one MS provides. Only thing you can really compare the memory card adapter to would be the 360's memory card itself, where one is $13 and the other is $40. Hopefully Sony'll keep the prices as close to the Japanese ones as possible.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by SouthJag

They're just blowing away the 360's accesory line-up and pricing out of the water, especially if they stick with the controller price at $40 instead of the $50 wireless one MS provides. Only thing you can really compare the memory card adapter to would be the 360's memory card itself, where one is $13 and the other is $40. Hopefully Sony'll keep the prices as close to the Japanese ones as possible.

Again, why would they bump them up substantially? Japan usually has higher prices, their games already cost more (and have a far greater price range then ours) as do most gaming items, period.

Maybe we'll see the memory card adapter at $15, but there really isn't much reason to bump the controller's price up when you have the pricing edge here.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Doesn't the US almost always get a better deal than most countries? At least that's what it seems like. Except possibly Japan.

I like the Li-Ion Idea though. Good stuff.

How ya doing, buddy?

Hmm, more details on the memory card utility, though I don't know why the article takes such a negative stance on what's easily a big positive (especially at the pricepoint given and what yo can do to the saves).

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There will be a memory card adaptor for Sony’s PlayStation 3 that will allow users to transfer their data on to the console’s hard drive.
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All memory card data can be copied onto a virtual memory card within the hard drive of the PlayStation 3 with the use of an adaptor. Specific details about the adaptor such as cost and whether it will be included in any of Sony’s console packages have not been revealed.

According to the official PS3 FAQ, the adaptor will allow gamers to transfer their saved games to the new console. "To use saved data on a PlayStation 2 memory card, you must copy the data onto a virtual memory card within the hard disk. This requires a PS2/PSone memory card adaptor to copy the data to your PlayStation 3. A memory card adaptor is designed to edit, up/download game saves to and from EMS flash card or smart media card."

The idea of a separate peripheral for an already-expensive console is not pleasant. More expenses might be the last thing on a gamer’s mind after they pay hundreds of dollars for the next-gen console. This is still a benefit for potential PS3 owners as they will have their saved data available on the backwards compatible games.

I was speaking idiomatically.

The writer's probably just thinking that all peripherals at this point are bad, especially for next-gen consoles. I'd feel the same way too if all consoles handled hardware add-ons the way Microsoft and their 360 have. It's been out for almost a year now, and I swear to you it had almost as many accessories both first and third-party as the PS2 does.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by SouthJag

The writer's probably just thinking that all peripherals at this point are bad, especially for next-gen consoles. I'd feel the same way too if all consoles handled hardware add-ons the way Microsoft and their 360 have. It's been out for almost a year now, and I swear to you it had almost as many accessories both first and third-party as the PS2 does.

That's the problem, people in the industry seem to have this fixation on the 360 as the singular next gen experience and all else is a derivative of said console. So when they come to report something on the PS3, what comes out is their bitterness of the other machine. On a brighter note, more photos from the PSM3 team:


Yes, it's see through. This is the liftable flap that covers the memory card slots. You can see through it with the camera's bright flash.



And here's an ambitious close up shot of the flap up. Yes, it’s blurred. Yes, we're sorry. Note the hard drive bay cover at the bottom left.



Rich playing MotorStorm. Two points of interest: One, the draw distance and textures. Two, Rich can play games with his eyes shut.



Rich tilting the pad. Note: blurred hands NOT due to crap photography.



Dan D driving a bike up a massive ramp in MotorStorm.



Nathan playing Resistance. Note: the red light on the top of the PS3 pad shows that he's connected to PS3 as 'player one'. Different lights show different player numbers, see.



The network port on the back of the PS3 features a green light. Green… That's got to be a good thing, right?…

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The ethernet port being active and this following news pretty much wraps up what we all expected: Online and other launch details will be ironed out at this event.

Originally Posted by Kotaku

We've heard the rumblings for quite awhile now, but it wasn't official until today. Sony is holding one last press gathering before the launch of the Playstation 3.

The Gamer's Day event, an invitation to "preview the beginning of the next generation", will take place on Thursday, Oct. 19 in San Francisco and feature a round-table discussion, executive presentations and a half-day of hands-on gaming time.

I suspect Sony will have most, if not all, of their launch titles on hand for playtime as well, perhaps, as some early builds of later games.

This has also got to be the event where Sony dishes the details on PSP connectivity and the PS3's online capabilities. I'm psyched... and going. Brian Crecente

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Canadian PS3 billboard:


FELIPE NO

Nice to see that the memory card adaptor will be fairly cheap.

I almost thought that PS3 billboard was for spiderman 3.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

God that billboard looks like it's right in Hamilton. Or Toronto...

I'm happy now.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Shaky cam video all but confirming 7 player gameplay in NBA 2K7:

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Originally Posted by Sports.IGN.com

Forget the days of pressing a button. With the new tilt controller, you actually shoot the ball. That's right, grab a PS2 controller and practice your stroke right now. Hold the controller with one hand in the middle, bring it up to your head, pause, then act like you're shooting the ball, complete with follow through. Instructions on the screen will rate your performance, tell you if you're too fast, too slow, or if you're pushing the controller to the right or left. Meanwhile, your opponent can pull the triggers to make your hands vibrate, making life more difficult as your polygonal player steps to the line.

"This is sick, man. It's genius how realistic the shooting feels," says Maggette. "I'm the type of guy, though, if you're shooting a free throw with the controller like that, I'm going to slap your hand, smack the controller, do anything to make you miss."

Maggette wouldn't put down the controller once he picked it up. The biggest gamer of the bunch, he already has NBA 2K7 for the 360, but he can't wait for the PS3.

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You can download it directly from the site, just look on the right.

Motorstorm can be controlled by tilting the pad as well as via sticks.

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You can even see the reflection of Motorstorm in the shiny exterior. Good, eh? Finally Rich, Andy, Dave the workie and I got to grips with the lush PS3 for the first time. First impressions? The pads lighter than we anticipated and we were pleasantly surprised by the top-notch feel when controlling the vehicles with the pads motion rather than the sticks. We also got to grips with Resistance: Fall of Man too. The jury's still out on this one but it looks amazing; like proper next-gen. But it really drew in a crowd of curious gamers. Including some teary-eyed men from an Xbox magazine...

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Edit: Glowing PS3 report from IGN's TGS roundtable. Anoop's comments are especially inflammatory to some gamers.

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October 2, 2006 - David Clayman, IGN Insider: It sounds crazy but of everything I played I had the most fun with Formula One 06 on PS3. The sense of speed from the cockpit camera is excellent and the game was balanced to make racing difficult but not frustrating. Blasting around the track as Michael Schumacher made Motorstorm feel like Diddy Kong Racing.

Before the Sony Preview Event I hadn't really experienced a game in 1080p. The difference is certainly not as noticeable as the transition from standard definition to 720p but when you are able to see 720 and 1080p next to each other the change in clarity is profound. Of course this also had a lot to do with the gorgeous screens these games were displayed on. Before I can experience the next generation of gaming in the highest quality I would need a much larger apartment.

Craig Beridon, IGN Insider:My most memorable moment of TGS? Waking up on Saturday morning and seeing the lines for the PS3 booth extending from the front doors of the Makuhari Messe convention center and wrapping around the building 2-3 times about two hours before the show floor even opened. Of course only to realize I had to go into the same enclosed area as all these people for up to eight hours of my day. Then immediately ****ing myself.



Anoop Gantayat, IGN Japan: This show proved to me that the PS3 is the big event this generation and the Xbox 360 really is 2006's Dreamcast (I'm purposely excluding the Wii, which makes me think more of a toy than a game machine). While the 360 had a few good looking games -- Lost Planet, for instance -- games like Heavenly Sword, White Knight Story and Motorstorm are a step up in the visual and animation department.

Microsoft's big two for this show weren't as impressive as I'd been hoping. Blue Dragon looks like just another Japanese RPG. It has gorgeous visuals, but I'm hoping there's more to the experience than the demo suggested.

Lost Odyssey, meanwhile, was my game of the show following Sakaguchi's 10 minute demo. After that 10 minutes, as soon as you take control of Kain following the boss battle, it shows hints of being just another Japanese RPG that happens to have a really cool opening. I was so excited about Lost Odyssey following its announcement that I started reading the scenario writer's latest book (which has been on the top 10 seller list all year). The storyline has an intriguing premise, so I'm hoping the end experience will be at the level of the demo's opening.

On the PS3, I was most impressed by White Knight, which was video-only but proved that poor animation is what's been keeping next generation titles from actually looking next generation. Metal Gear Solid 4 was also impressive, although not as much from a visual standpoint (there was a definite drop in quality from E3 and last year's TGS cinematics) as from a gameplay standpoint. The Oktacon camoflauge system offers up some interesting possibilities, as shown in the new trailer.

Surprisingly, one of the most impressive PS3 games was Ridge Racer 7. In screenshots, the title reminded me of the 360 version. Then I saw it in motion at the show in glorious 1080p. RR7 will be good enough reason for me to get the system at launch (I'm going to also sell my telescope, which is useless from my place in Shibuya's hotel district, to buy one of those Bravias Sony was using at the show).


With the PS3 now costing a far more reasonable 50,000 yen, nothing should stop it from having PS2-level success in Japan, especially with a killer 2007 that will see games like Virtua Fighter 5, Metal Gear, White Knight, Devil May Cry 4 and, possibly, Final Fantasy XIII.

Disappointments? Gran Turismo HD had severe frame rate problems, which made it unplayable for me. Premium mode looks so incomplete, lacking environmental lighting at this point, that I was questioning if Polyphony would be able to make a December release for the title. Maybe they'll end up making all of premium mode downloadable early next year.

I didn't get a chance to play it, but I was disappointed with the look of Lair. Based on the interviews the game seems to have a lot going into it, but it needs some polish.

And my award for the biggest laugh of the show was Sonic on PS3 and 360. I don't see how they're going to turn this mess into a polished year-end product (the title is due for Japanese PS3 release on 12/21) unless they redo everything from scratch.

Charles Onyett, IGN PC: I'll echo Anoop with my White Knight impressions. The video looked really cool, showing off bits of a battle system that seemed like it could actually be different from the turn-based snoozefests so common in RPGs. It also had giant robots. Never a bad thing. Despite making me really want to play, the video didn't make me want to spend over 600 dollars.

Other than that, nothing at the show really blew me away. I'd seen Lost Planet before, Lost Odyssey was disappointingly conventional, and the PS3 playable booths were so crowded I couldn't get a good impression of how everything there played. All I know is that about 85% of the attendees were crowded around the Monster Hunter booth, a game which I know little of and care even less about.

EBGames/Gamestop conference impressions and pics

Now, bear with me. This guy has typos all over his post, but the pics in the end may be real. Anyone who works at EBGames/Gamestop and went to the event confirm if they are?

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I just got back from our annual meeting for EB games And gamestop , and i got to play

Genji , MotorStorm , and Resistance

they all where on those new sony XBR tv's running at 720 P

Ok first off , to al the people, ( including myself at 1 point ) When you look at a ps3 game, you know your looking at a ps3 game , there is a very distinctive difference in them, the games are so crystal clear, the shadows, the particle effects are soo nice, and from what i played , all 3 of those games look a bit better then anything ive seen and played on 360.

Genji : originally i didnt think i would like this title, but after playing it , im buying this game on DAY1 ,

The way you can swap between characters at any given time is actually very nice , and gives for some huge combos, i got to play with the main dood with the swords, the big guy with the giant pole ( lol ) and some chick with these rings on a chain , this game when you see it in person looks amazing , plays very fast and very good, the whole time i played it NOT once did the frame rate EVER drop at ALL,The colors are so nice and vibrant , got to play what looked like and opening stage wich just kinda let you see how to play with the people , then once you beat that it moved you to a battlfield with a bunch of guys on it, everything was on fire , looks awesome ( they said this game would use some tilt features but was not in this demo )

MotorStorm: This honestly is the best looking game i personally think i have ever seen as far as realizm, This game is so beautiful you really have to se it in person , for those people that think gears of war has great graphics ( wich it does ) this game in all aspects looks better than that. They only had 1 course for us to play but it did let us pick between prolly about 7 different vehicles , i played with the motor cycle dirt bike, and a dune buggy , they handle like you are in the dirt , turbo is really cool, u have a meter if you hold turbo too long you rides engine and car will blow up.Every time u blow up or crash u get the burnout slo mo effect .Almost everysingle part of the car can be destroyed , I rammed a guy next to me and knocked his driver side door off, then i rammed him again and he actually fell out of the car . I notced this with all the games i played , MotorStorm looked spectacular and Not once, EVER did the Frame rate drop . ( o yeah this was the one game they said would have ni tilt features )

Resistance : This game is really cool , graphic wise it looks extremly well , somtimes when u get up on a wall the textures dont look to good . When u get up on an enemy or zoom in on his dead body to look at them, they are EXTREMLEY detailed.The weapons in this game are AWESOME. I really like the sniper rifle , it's alt fire makes time slow down for AWESOME headshots.The ragdoll physics are sooo sweet in this game , And another thing to note , for instance, im going down some stairs, and instead oflike just killing a guy or 2, like 10 or 15 guys come runnin up the stairs, these things are jumping off the walls, there are alot of guys on screen at once.there where 3 lvls for us to play and they where all awesome , this game has a fast paced feel like UT in a way , blowinf people up with grenades is SUCH a rush and soo fun. I am a Halo ( 1 ) fan myself, i have the game on xbox and on pc for multiplayed , even tho i didnt get to play multiplayed in the demo of resistance, the single played experience rivals if not surpases that of Halo, they have done an extremly well job at balancing this game, making the weapons fun, lots of enemies, ragdoll is perfect , giant enemies , the whole feel of this game is just awesome , even this game looks a bit better than anything that is out on the 360 . O yeah, with all the people on the screen, ships flying over head, explosions goinf off , and all the chaose that is going on, NOT once did i EVER see the FRAME RATE drop at all.

After playing these 3 titles ,and getting confermatin that all 3 of these will be available on November 17th, I will be buying all 3 of these games, Like i stated before you can defenetly tell the difference between a 360 game and a ps3 game , and its not something you have to look for, its apparent from the start , the graphics are so clear , the effects and shadows and everything are just sooo nice , and iff you didnt notice, on all 3 that i played the frame rate neer droped not once at all, to me and alot others this is huge, i havnt played a 360 game yet that dont have frame rate issues ( besides knockout kings, wich is awesome ) . I went in there a bit sceptical, just a bit, and walked out completley 100% happy with what i seen and played,

just on another note, the new ps3 controller as we al know, has the battery built in, comes with the charger also , and i was told you will get 25 - 30 hours of gameplay on them . I like the new controller alot, theres nothing like a ps controller, the new triggers are really nice, and made from a rubber now also, and the analog sticks also stick upward a bit more than they did, my only complaint is that i wish the controller had a tad bit more weight to it.Another cool thng was that the games where runnin off of component cables, the guy showed me lol , the system uses the same imput as the ps1 and the ps3 , so hopefully HDMI will be a bit better .

I cannot wait for NOV 17 now!

Conference photos









There's nowhere I can't reach.

After reading all that, i'm psyched! Pitty I can't get my hands on one until March unless there is a miracle and I come across an import system around Christmas.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by randomwab

After reading all that, i'm psyched! Pitty I can't get my hands on one until March unless there is a miracle and I come across an import system around Christmas.

Yeah, I was really blown away by how early and how well the impressions are of the controller's tilt feature. Oh, BTW, thanks random. I needed someone to post since the above was getting a tad on the huge side.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

So we can edit our PS1/PS2 game saves now? Or did I just misread that quote?

I'm assuming this adapter uses USB to connect, right? Wouldn't that mean with the right files you could connect it to your computer? Sounds like an easy way to cheat in games. If I can access the PS3 from my PC and copy PS1/2/3 saved game files or even edit them on the PS3 itself (since it runs linux I wouldn't be surprised if lots of software starts popping up for it) I can cheat to my heart's content.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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According to the official PS3 FAQ, the adaptor will allow gamers to transfer their saved games to the new console. "To use saved data on a PlayStation 2 memory card, you must copy the data onto a virtual memory card within the hard disk. This requires a PS2/PSone memory card adaptor to copy the data to your PlayStation 3. A memory card adaptor is designed to edit, up/download game saves to and from EMS flash card or smart media card."

Looks like you're right Mr. Shonos. The extent to which you can edit them is unknown, though I bet it's rather limited. How did I know this little announcement would get the wheels in people's heads turning?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

This is good news. I've backed up my PS2 saves with Action Replay, but one time I corrupted my memory stick from trying to back up save files to put on my PC, so not lose them. Sweet irony. But yeah, hopefully this means we can back them up much easier.

FELIPE NO

Really, once you get them on your PS3 you won't need to put them on your PC for safe storage anymore. (unless you're downloading game saves) Because once you copy them to the PS3's HDD, you should be ok. Then if your cards corrupt you can copy them onto the cards again from your PS3. Man, I've been playing my 360 for too long now. I miss B/C, damn you M$... damn YOU!!!

LOL

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Here's a real nice Motorstorm gameplay video, showing off the fantastic lighting and overall look of the game.

http://www.gameklip.com/v/1579

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The more I see that game the more I want it.

So far wanted launch titles are:

FullAuto 2 (disapointed by the 360's performance of the 1st one)
LAIR
COD3
Resistance
Genji
RidgeRacer 7

However, MotorStorm isn't a launch title is it? It would be weird if it wasn't seeing haow it's shipping with the demo kits for places like PSM3 and what not.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Slayer X

However, MotorStorm isn't a launch title is it? It would be weird if it wasn't seeing haow it's shipping with the demo kits for places like PSM3 and what not.

MotorStorm was pushed back to December, along with F1, IIRC. There's basically 1 or two big games every month (and countless less notable titles) or two all the way into 2008, so a drought of games is unlikely.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.