Full Metal Alchemist: Anime Edition

I opened this thread for discussion of the Anime Edition of Full Metal Alchemist, including the anime movie.

I myself have a few questions, thank you for helping me out:

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1) What happened to Gluttony and Lyra?

2) Why is it that the evil commander is still alive + robotic part after the forging of the philosopher stone. I thought he was dead among all the other people.

3) Is Dante a good person or a bad one? She is the teacher of Izumi but then I saw she was the leader of the creatures from hell.

4) I didn't really understand why Edward's father couldn't come back to the alchemist's world where Edward still could.

5) Why does Envy hate Edward's father so much?

6) What's the meaning of the green dragon in the last chapter?

7) Why didn't Edward get his hand and leg back at the end?

8) Which one is true? Getting a thing requires something (Edward), or the getting something doesn't require anything (father).

9) Why did Scar kill Nina-dog?

10) So it is true that when one dies, he can never be revived, unless his soul is still there and unless you use the stone. This is how Alphonse revived Edward. So why could Edward revive his brother again? This means Alphonse was never dead???

11) Those hellish creatures, are they just the people from the other world?
I don't understand why Edward keeps saying they don't have souls, if they don't have souls, then what do they have? They certainly have bodies and even memories from people from the alchemist's world.

12) I don't understand a thing from the triangle: Wrath - Edward - Izumi

Tell me where I'm wrong:
Izumi had a dead baby, tried to revive it and received an ugly baby? Is that ugly baby = wrath? Izumi gave her intestins and received wrath. Then she gave wrath back to the other world and then Edward tried to revive his mother and the ugly baby who has legs and arms stole Edwards leg and arm.
I don't understand what happened to the ugly baby. That ugly baby had arms and legs, how could it then steal another leg and another arm from Edward?

13) At the end of the series, Edward's father says something about, when you perform alchemist's things, you have to use energy from the other world in return, what does that mean?

14) Is there anything in the manga that says where the skeleton of Gluttony and Envy is and how did they come to this world?

15) What's with this baby being the portal and all? I even didn't remember when that baby was born...

16) Why was Lust suddenly pinned to the wall by the evil leader, and how??? She didn't have her skeleton.

17) Why did the evil general know that there was a skull in that case? And who hid it? He couldn't possibly put it there himself because he wouldn't be able to move. And if he knew that skull was in there, why did he give it to that kid? Absurd.
BTW, who is that skull from? The general? This can't be because it's the evil general who killed the good one. The evil general already existed when the good general was still alive. So who summoned the evil general and who is this skull from? Ok, I'm really, really confused now.

18) Did you find the ending sad? I did. By the way this is the best anime I've ever seen. So, do the brothers get back after all in the manga?

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first thing dude, remember that the anime and the manga took different ways in half of the series, so things are different in the manga than in the anime.

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1- watch the movie,
2-the magic of anime
3-bad person
4-you need to open the door from both sides to cross it. watch the movie
5-again, watch the movie
6-im not sure, but in the movie the dragon appears
7-good question, never thought of that
8-not sure
9-because he detected that she was a creature made with alchemy, and he is trying to destroy everything that handles alchemy.
10-actually i think that armor al was a copy ed's memories , thats why he could remember certain things in the anime, and we the real al returned, he looked like a small boy and didnt had any memories of what happened
11-i dont know about that
12-same here
13-its suppose that you exchange something from this world, to the other world. that is what i think
14-dont know i never read the manga
15-no idea
16-no idea
17-no idea
18-yes kinda sad, but the true ending is in the movie.

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I have got to see the movie!!!

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yes dude
i recommend you to watch the movie, is very good.
i think in september its in the theathers,

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Too bad I don't live in America but in Europe, I'll have to buy it when I go to Hong Kong.

How ya doing, buddy?

yo can download the movie then

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Yea... I've watched it. Hm... my friend got it downloaded, so yep, you can d/l it, I guess. ^^

FELIPE NO

I'm pretty pleased with the ending, but I have the feeling that the movie didn't tell me much that I didn't know of. I feel a bit empty.

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Oh, so you watched the movie already? o.O And hm... I thought it explained quite a lot for me. Ah well... -shrugs-

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I didn't quite understand the movie entirely, especially since I got really terrible sub that was misttimed for a good chunk of it. I just wonder if that evil woman throughout the whole thing was just there as a crazy lady to be the main villain, or whether she had a part behind the scenes throughout the whole anime in

Spoiler:

the other (non-alchemic) world.

Also, since I'm not good at remembering details for some things:

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1) Did the fact that gluttony all beserk when he was encountered in the movie imply that Dante was dead, and Gluttony was there in the cave all that time?
2) Why was the lady insane again? She's really bugging me now that I forget most of the movie.

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Originally Posted by Summonmaster

I didn't quite understand the movie entirely, especially since I got really terrible sub that was misttimed for a good chunk of it. I just wonder if that evil woman throughout the whole thing was just there as a crazy lady to be the main villain, or whether she had a part behind the scenes throughout the whole anime in

Spoiler:

the other (non-alchemic) world.

Also, since I'm not good at remembering details for some things:

Spoiler:

1) Did the fact that gluttony all beserk when he was encountered in the movie imply that Dante was dead, and Gluttony was there in the cave all that time?
2) Why was the lady insane again? She's really bugging me now that I forget most of the movie.

she wanted the power of alchemy to control both worlds.

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My subtitle went crazy too.

movie spoilers:

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And I didn't understand:

1) the dragon = envy. Why suddenly?
2) what was Alphonse doing to Gluttony and Wrath?
3) Why did the portal open at the moment when dad died?
4) The beginning of the movie is just not understandable, what's that orb?
5) Those robots coming out of the ground, were they manned or unmanned? If they were manned, how come one of them was unmanned => Alphonse.
6) Being able to use alchemy in that world. How is this possible?
7) Izumi, is she dead already?
8) So you say: to cross to the other world, both portals have to be open. Who opened the portal then when the father and Edward crossed over? Because only Edward and father can open the portal in the other world. There couldn't be anyone in the other world opening the door for father to cross over...
And in the anime, Edward suddenly came back to the alchemist's world, without even opening a portal.

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My attempt at answering the questions:

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1> Envy transformed into the dragon near the end of anime series (episode 50 or 51) when he crossed over the gate. As to how he did it, I have no idea...
2> Alphonse used them as the sacrifice to open the gate.
3> Because Hohenheim used himself as the sacrifice to open the gate, along with Alphonse using Wrath and Gluttony.
4> An explosive device created by that crazy physicist.
5> Plot hole? I think they're supposed to be manned.
6> No idea.
7> Yep, she's dead.
8> No idea. Maybe more plot holes?

I was speaking idiomatically.

I want to get to know more anime like this one.

Are there any anime out there that come close to the quality of this anime?
Quality in my opinion means: quality drawings, humor and moral. Rurouni Kenshin is a good example. Pokemon, Onmyou Taisenki and DBZ are bad examples.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

maybe you will like Eureka 7.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by MrSatan

maybe you will like Eureka 7.

Eureka 7 is an excellent choice, though it does get bogged down in the middle, before they start getting into the jucier parts of the plot.

I'd also recommend Chrno Crusade. The characters are enjoyable, and although the ending could have been better, it's still an excellent series.

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Originally Posted by Shirokage

My attempt at answering the questions:

Spoiler:

1> Envy transformed into the dragon near the end of anime series (episode 50 or 51) when he crossed over the gate. As to how he did it, I have no idea...
2> Alphonse used them as the sacrifice to open the gate.
3> Because Hohenheim used himself as the sacrifice to open the gate, along with Alphonse using Wrath and Gluttony.
4> An explosive device created by that crazy physicist.
5> Plot hole? I think they're supposed to be manned.
6> No idea.
7> Yep, she's dead.
8> No idea. Maybe more plot holes?

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Envy's power is shapeshifting- that's how he transformed into the dragon. I have no idea why, but in general, the Leviathan (the actual name for what Envy transformed into) is the mythical creature that represents the deadly sin of Envy. So that's the link; why it was used is a mystery to me. I think as pretty much the head of the Homunculi (bar Dante obviously) he deserved a better death than the one he got... i mean Pride's death was really drawn out, and he wasn't even known as a villain until ep 40

I personally didnt like the movie anyway.... no where near as good at the TV series

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I blame it on the fact they killed most of the main characters too early... Dante and Lust for example should definately have been in the movie. (Yes, I know Lust from the "real world" was in the movie sat next to Scar at the end of the movie, but as far as i'm concerned, that's not Lust

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Who is Pride? I can't find him in my FMA book. Is Pride = Dante? I have all characters in that book: gluttony, lust, envy, wrath, greed, sloth but can't find pride. Normally it should include all 7 sins...

Didn't know Leviathan was representing envy, thanks for that info.

Another question: in the anime they never mentioned you had to sacrifice someone to open the gate, or I didn't remember it. Lyra just touched the baby's head and the door opened. I think the baby represents death and birth meaning reincarnation. Also the portal seems like a door to the afterlife or something, Izumi says it's hell, but it could also be heaven.

In theory to open the gate we saw Alphonse, Izumi's baby and that other baby being sacrificed. I don't remember if rose's baby was really sacrificed, the end went too fast for me.

And Chrono Crusade looks very interesting, so why is it called Chrno Crusade? BTW, that blond haired girl really looks like you know who.

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Pride:

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was the Fuhrer that always hung out with Sloth.
7 deadly sins: Pride, Lust, Envy, Sloth, Greed, Gluttony, Wrath

Chrno is Rosette's partner, and Crusade is a term in religious studies, although I too forgot the significance and just think of it as an adventure.

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I hate FMA movie's ending.

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Those two bastard brother got to live together and left Winry alone in the Alchemy world.

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Well, I think it's not so bad. At least both Ed and Al' are in this world, right?

I was speaking idiomatically.

I didn't like it. I felt that

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belonged in the alchemic world.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

i felt the same dude, but it was a nice ending, thought

FELIPE NO

Jesus christ, have you not heard of AnimeNewsNetwork? If you're going to make a thread for something, at least keep it on topic.

A crusade is a holy war in order to rid the world of infidels, by the way. Dictionaries (and english classes) are your friend.

Also FMA movie is a terrible ending to the anime, which was only subpar itself when compared to the masterpiece that is the manga.

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Originally Posted by katchum

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Who is Pride? I can't find him in my FMA book. Is Pride = Dante? I have all characters in that book: gluttony, lust, envy, wrath, greed, sloth but can't find pride. Normally it should include all 7 sins...

Didn't know Leviathan was representing envy, thanks for that info.

Another question: in the anime they never mentioned you had to sacrifice someone to open the gate, or I didn't remember it. Lyra just touched the baby's head and the door opened. I think the baby represents death and birth meaning reincarnation. Also the portal seems like a door to the afterlife or something, Izumi says it's hell, but it could also be heaven.

In theory to open the gate we saw Alphonse, Izumi's baby and that other baby being sacrificed. I don't remember if rose's baby was really sacrificed, the end went too fast for me.

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Yeah, Summmonmaster is right- Pride is the Fuhrer... he has an Ouroborus on his right eye (that he always keeps a patch over). Dante, on the other hand is Pride's creator.

Right.... with the whole baby and the Gate: first remember that Lyra= Dante. Lyra died shortly before Greed when Dante stole her body. The gate can be summoned either by sacrificing a human or homunculus using the right transmutation circle (eg. see Wrath and Gluttony's death) , by attempting human transmutation, or by using an infant with the correct transmutation circle. The reason it works with an baby is because their mind, body and soul are still connected. If you watch any time the baby is used to summon the gate, the circle appears on it's chest. I agree with your theory about the baby representing life and death. Dante confirms this too I think in her confrontation with Ed "....It's doing all a baby can do to survive- breathing, crying for help... but what does it get in return? Was the baby born only so that it could die?"

Rose's baby wasn't sacrificed- it is in the film, but I am unsure whether or not it died then in the end... it's really bugging me so i think i may go and watch that scene again now...

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